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Darkbluesky
06-07-2005, 03:17 AM
Hi

I would like to know what a Force feedback joy can add to immersion in FB. I would like people that uses (or used) it post here their feelings, opinions, etc.

Really I would like to test it before buy for myself, but here I have not this possibility yet.

So if you can help me it'd be wonderful. Tx

Skyhawk1090
06-07-2005, 09:18 AM
Yes is Microsoft force feed back 2 but sorry they don't make anymore but you can buy on ebay for used one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Pivot2163
06-07-2005, 09:38 AM
I also use MS-FF2 and other than being short a few keystrokes "obviously" I find it much more immersive. You will get buffeting when fixing to stall, lot's of help with that too, along with other forces. I have remapped my hat switch to perform the standard trim functions and utilize my mouse for viewing. It will also startle the heck out of you when someone sneaks in behind you and begins pounding your plane with lead...

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bear_boradin
06-07-2005, 09:44 AM
MSFF2 here too. There is nothing like it. The best FF Joystick out there IMHO. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifHad one on the family PC, but that was staying put, fair enough. So had to find my own last year. NJot easy when they've stopped making 'em. Finally got it on E-bay with FS2002, CFS2 and X-wing alliance. (Don't really play any except occasionally FS) But twas a bargain at 60!! Won't ever go back to the cr*p i had before... the dreaded Logitech WINGMAN 'FARCE' 3D! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

lkemling
06-07-2005, 09:47 AM
Some like myself like the FF sticks as as really good one will give you information on flight characteristic's of your aircraft,letting you know say when the edge of a stall is reached etc.
On the other hand because the FF stick will vibrate when the trigger is depressed it can tend to throw your aim off a bit,though most of us using these sticks have learned to compensate for this....

Darkbluesky
06-07-2005, 10:12 AM
Tx, and...

I would like to know if when you perform a tight turn or there is strong wind etc, you find harder to move the ailerons, elevators,...?

EiZ0N
06-07-2005, 01:49 PM
No, it's never hard to move the stick around.

You do feel resistance though. When firing, you need to be careful with the stick, if you are careless it could possibly throw your aim off, but personally I don't find it to be a problem because I have steady hands.

I could never go back from FF

Brass_Monkey
06-07-2005, 08:27 PM
I also have been using the MS FFB II since it came out, can't imagine "flying" with out FFB it's just not the same with out the joystick "talkin back to ya"
S! Brass

Cadet_Bobo
06-07-2005, 08:40 PM
Is this any fun without FF? I have an old MSFF2 also and can't really imagine any flight sims without FF. I'm spoiled though. Lots of guys forego the FF to get better aiming during firing, FF tends to jiggle the stick when the guns go off. It's up you're taste, Dig it or Don't!

Bobo

Yog_Shoggoth
06-07-2005, 09:12 PM
Why does everyone here hate logitech? I've been using their sticks for years.

Bearcat99
06-07-2005, 09:47 PM
I havent flown without FFB since 2001..... If you use FFB in this sim then I suggest you consider getting some kind of throttle solution as well. It adds immensely to the immersion.

AerialTarget
06-08-2005, 12:24 AM
You can see an alternate opinion here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/8281050823). If you disagree and continue using force feedback joysticks, then my P-38 will be that much safer from your guns.

Darkbluesky
06-08-2005, 12:28 AM
Anubody has test the MS and Logitech FF sticks and could post here his/her opinions about the differences. Which is better in FF effects?

Abbuzze
06-08-2005, 04:47 AM
I tried force feedback sticks and brought them back to the shop after a week.
Yes it give you more feedback from the plane, but if you fire the guns the stick rumbling, thats nice, but don´t give me more immersion cause I know that the whole plane should shake togehter with the seat, the stick and my body, so you will not realy notice it as a rumbling stick.

Maybe FFB is ok for steeringwheels and ralley games, but for flightsims.. I don´t like it

So to say it short - I don´t like FFB sticks.