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BobV_07
01-25-2005, 09:30 PM
Hello
does anybody know if a yanky salty dog like me will be able to change the units of measurement from km to miles? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TooFastForLove.
01-25-2005, 10:07 PM
Our you could just bite the bullet and learn metric. That will be nessasary anyway when the world gets so pissed off that they overtake the U.S. j/k http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Dominicrigg
01-25-2005, 10:41 PM
I thought americans worked in km?

I thought it was just us brits who were in miles!! Yeah we are not alone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bulwark_
01-26-2005, 12:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dominicrigg:
I thought americans worked in km?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nope, it's us Canadians! Km make more sense in a way, but it just depends on what you're used to I guess. Miles does sound cooler when you say zero to sixty! Funny thing is, although I go by Km, I judge my milage in miles per gallon.

Bulwark_
01-26-2005, 12:34 AM
But actually miles wouldn't matter anyway, the game should be based on nautical miles. One NM is something close to 1.15 Miles. (or exactly 2000 yards, which ever you like better) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Messervy
01-26-2005, 12:51 AM
I think you will be forced to use metric because I believe that the TDC works only that way.

Poacher886a
01-26-2005, 01:52 AM
Why we are on the subject of measurement....
I am curently reading a fantastic book on the U-69's patrols (the laughing cow,incase your interested),the boat is a V11c and while he is under a depth charge attack he remarks"the boat can be pushed to 30 fathoms, infact once i had one sink on me and went to 35 fathoms,though the rivets started poping...whats a fathom? 10m?

Dominicrigg
01-26-2005, 01:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Measuring Depth
The depth of the sea is traditionally measured in units called fathoms where 1 fathom equals 6 feet or about 1.8 meters. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

From some website i just found. Soooo they can only do about 50 metres!! shocking

SailorSteve
01-26-2005, 02:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dominicrigg:
I thought americans worked in km?

I thought it was just us brits who were in miles!! Yeah we are not alone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I always though we Yanks were the only ones left. It was only a couple of days ago that one of your fellows assured me that the British still used 'Imperial Measure'.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bulwark:
But actually miles wouldn't matter anyway, the game should be based on nautical miles. One NM is something close to 1.15 Miles. (or exactly 2000 yards, which ever you like better) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Take it from an old sailor: 2000 is the figure I usually give as it's close enough, but it's not exact. A nautical mile is exactly 2026.667 yards (or 6080 feet).

Dominicrigg
01-26-2005, 02:16 AM
Well we arent supposed to use it, the little hitlers in Brussels say we will be fined if we use it inj shops ect!! (i have to sell materials in metric at work but show people the old measures also)

But miles we have kept for speed and on road signs, guess its because it would take some getting used to watching for km per hour.

Messervy
01-26-2005, 02:36 AM
Quote:
Measuring Depth
The depth of the sea is traditionally measured in units called fathoms where 1 fathom equals 6 feet or about 1.8 meters.

Another british way of measuring the world http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
I mean what is the matter with these people?
If it goes up it is in feet, if you shoot it it is in yards, if it goes underwater is fathom, if it goes deep underwater it is a league, if you are looking for a treasure there are paces if it is on land it is a mile if it at see it is a mile aswell, but behold it`s not the same.... mile http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Dominicrigg
01-26-2005, 02:51 AM
All our measurements have interesting histories!!

Feet is obvious, knots come from knots tied to rope and dropped into the water, the faster the ship, the more knots are pulled in. Now you made me want to know the history of fathom...

Messervy
01-26-2005, 03:15 AM
I know about knots! I myself once made a speedmeter when we were sailing on a boat without any instruments.
Fathom judging from the fact that is equal to 6 feet might be the hight of some bloke who could stand on the bottom and just not touching the surface? Now is it a name of the place, river or a bloke...that beats me!

Dominicrigg
01-26-2005, 03:23 AM
Found it,

Fathom is from the old english faethm meaning to outstretch your arms. So like all the old measurements its a body thing. Yard is a stride, foot is your foot, fathom is finger tip to finger tip!!

Im a mine of useless info... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

SailorSteve
01-26-2005, 03:24 AM
Webster's:

Main Entry: 1fath‚∑om
Pronunciation: 'fa-[th]&m
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English fadme, from Old English f√¬¶thm outstretched arms, length of the outstretched arms; akin to Old Norse fathmr fathom, Latin patEre to be open, pandere to spread out, Greek petannynai
1 : a unit of length equal to six feet (1.83 meters) used especially for measuring the depth of water

macker33
01-26-2005, 08:05 AM
Metric is really only good for doing sums,the imperial system is useful sometimes because it deals in halves and quarters and eights,i know growing up we used used to say two bob and ten bob instead of 10p and 50p,
I could never figure out why there was 240p in the old pound.

Messervy
01-26-2005, 08:13 AM
Now I have to ask....How many (whatever) was a ******y....shillingh.....?
We had that discussion in a pub two days ago and nobody had a clue?

BlitzPig_Rivet
01-26-2005, 09:11 AM
Pre decimalisation, a Guinea was one pound and one shilling, or 21 shillings. 20 shillings was equal to one pound sterling.

‚£1.00 = 20 shillings
‚£1.01s. = 1 Guinea

There you have it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Messervy
01-26-2005, 09:24 AM
Thank you very much and I appologize for my dreadfull spelling.

Dominicrigg
01-26-2005, 09:29 AM
No apology can ever be enough for that mess...

Messervy
01-26-2005, 09:32 AM
You must admit it looks a little bit Gaelic....just a little bit!

Yarrick_
01-26-2005, 03:47 PM
What happened last days in England?
I heard something (in the news) like you are adopting the metric system?
At least I will understand that strange measurements, by now I only have a mental idea of what's a mile. I know that 60 miles are 100 km. That works fine, but yards? that's a bit more complicated.

Dominicrigg
01-26-2005, 04:21 PM
Yards we dont use, yards are what my parents used im 28 and i never used them so i think it would be 40-50 and up that used yards and feet. At school we did use metres more but also miles, and we also use pounds and ounces and stones for weight!! I weigh 10 stone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif dont have a clue what that is in kilos ect its all mixed up i guess!! I use metres, miles, pounds stones and knots (sometimes grammes) it will take ages for the measurements to all be metric i guess.

BlitzPig_Rivet
01-26-2005, 06:19 PM
12 lines = 1 inch
12 inches = 1 foot
3 feet = 1 yard
1760 yards = 1 mile

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36 inches = 1 yard
440 yards = quarter mile
880 yards = half mile
100 links = 1 chain
10 chains = 1 furlong
8 furlongs = 1 mile

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4 inches = 1 hand
22 yards = 1 chain
5.5 yards = 1 rod, pole or perch
4 poles = 1 chain
40 poles = 1 furlong
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Abbreviations

inch in or "
foot ft or '
yard yd
mile m or mi

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Area

1 furlong x 1 pole = 1 rood
40 (sq) poles = 1 rood
1210 square yards = 1 rood
1 furlong x 1 chain = 1 acre
4 roods = 1 acre
160 (sq) poles = 1 acre
4840 square yards = 1 acre
640 acres = 1 square mile
1 cord foot = 16 cubic feet
1 cord = 128 cubic feet
3 measured ricks = 1 cord

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Imperial to Metric Conversion

1 inch = 2.54 cm
1 foot = 30.48 cm
1 yard = 91.44 cm
1 mile = 1.609344 km
1 cm = .3937 ins
10 cm = 3.937 ins
1 m = 1 yard 3.37 ins
1 km = 0.6213711 miles

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That should give you food for thought, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'd better let you know about myself. This thread is the first one i've actually posted in although I've been lurking around for a long time. I did try SH2 for a short time as I was looking for something in a different vein to the usual run of sims and games in general.

The reason I got disillusioned with SH2 was the innumerable bugs (some of them inexcusable imho) which ultimately spoilt the experience for me. I did try all the patches and add-ons which were a small industry in themselves and they did improve it for a while.

I have been following the progress of this sim for quite some time and it looks like this could very well be the one to tempt me back into the water again. It's already on pre-order. I am looking forward to this with great anticipation. I just hope I can find enough spare time to do it justice.

One question that I can't find an answer to is one of graphic card capability. In order to get the top quality water effects as shown in the "stormy weather" footage do we need graphic cards capable of pixel shader 3.0 technology, or will older cards suffice? My present card is a Radeon 9800XT. I can't afford a new card yet, even for this sim http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Whoops, never mind. I just spotted the other thread posted earlier http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BobV_07
01-26-2005, 11:56 PM
Interesting, thanks everybody! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Dominicrigg
01-27-2005, 12:09 AM
9800xt will do it, i have a 9600xt, it has all the effects needed. Now whether my comp can cope is another thing!

Jose.MaC
01-27-2005, 01:24 AM
In Spain, there is an equivalent for fanthoms: braza. The origin and use of this unit is the same than the english fanthom. In fact, name is far more transparent: brazo is spanish for arm. I guess every country with some naval tradition has its own equivalent.

1 braza = 1,6718 m.

hauitsme
01-27-2005, 01:34 AM
Download and use this: it's free and it should convert anything you would want. Unit Conversion (http://www.esbconsult.com/esbcalc/esbunitconv.html)

BlitzPig_Rivet
01-27-2005, 04:57 AM
Thanks Dominicrigg, I'm a happy chappy again.

macker33
01-28-2005, 07:25 AM
to turn miles into km divide by 5 and multiply by 8.
to turn km into miles divide by 8 and multiply by 5.

to turn kilos into pounds divide by 5 and multiply by 11.
to turn pounds into kilos divide by 11 and multiply by 5.

I think.

Jose.MaC
01-28-2005, 08:06 AM
Yup, this is the fast way to get a close aproximation to the number. Sometimes we're too dependable on machines and forget those nice ways to make everything easier. Thanks, Macker33! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

macker33
01-28-2005, 11:28 AM
No problamo whatsoaero.

On next weeks episode i will explain how to calculate distance to target and speed measurement,plus other interesting things every submariner should know,ie how to make a bomb with just two matches,how to survive two weeks in a desert with just a flashlight,how to attract girls and much much more.

Jose.MaC
01-28-2005, 12:24 PM
Do you have info about mermaids? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

macker33
01-28-2005, 01:23 PM
They're pretty and dont wear bikinis.

SailorSteve
01-28-2005, 02:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by macker33:
to turn miles into km divide by 5 and multiply by 8.
to turn km into miles divide by 8 and multiply by 5.

to turn kilos into pounds divide by 5 and multiply by 11.
to turn pounds into kilos divide by 11 and multiply by 5.

I think. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
To turn miles into km multiply by 0.62. Much quicker and easier.

HeibgesU999
01-28-2005, 11:42 PM
I have been saying for years that the United States needs to do more war-planning versus the EU. The EU will definitely try to Pearl Harbor us in the not too distant future.

Jose.MaC
01-29-2005, 12:59 AM
A bunch of islamic guys may be happy seeing how occidental devils start to kill themselves! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Jose.MaC
01-29-2005, 01:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by macker33:
They're pretty and dont wear bikinis. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What about their sizes? i.e.: if pretty women are suposed to be fatty, do they turn into fatty? And when the time for anorexic arrives, does they turn ultra skinny? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Guy, you're so wise! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Messervy
01-29-2005, 02:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HeibgesU999:
I have been saying for years that the United States needs to do more war-planning versus the EU. The EU will definitely try to Pearl Harbor us in the not too distant future. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Come on now Heibges...what`s that got to do with measurement system?

And how are we suppose to "Pearl Harbor" you.
The only way we can Pear Harbor you is by not joining in with your future dubious actions.
Some Pearl Harbor eh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Pr0metheus 1962
01-29-2005, 03:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dominicrigg:
All our measurements have interesting histories!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know if it's true, but I read somewhere that railway track widths are based on Roman cart axle widths.

Dominicrigg
01-29-2005, 02:09 PM
Never heard that one but no doubt it could be true!!!

macker33
01-30-2005, 04:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jose.MaC:

What about their sizes? etc.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They are pretty if you consider athlethic women pretty,all that swimming they have to be fit.
If you only consider cruel looking women pretty then you you might be out of luck.
If only they were good around the house i might fancy one.

macker33
01-30-2005, 05:12 AM
They can of course come in different flavours,
In the med mermaids presumably have a more sallow skin,
Wonder why there were no black mermaids around africa?

blue_76
02-02-2005, 03:59 PM
as i remember it.. we lost our most expensive sattelite to go to mars because of simple conversion.. why can't the world just accept the metric system?

hauitsme
02-02-2005, 09:08 PM
Why not just drop it?

Jose.MaC
02-03-2005, 03:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by macker33:
They can of course come in different flavours,
In the med mermaids presumably have a more sallow skin,
Wonder why there were no black mermaids around africa? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So in asia do they get asian shape? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif How can be athletic an oriental women? In the gim, monitors always have a hard time with oriental gals, you know, they don't like to sweat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

macker33
02-03-2005, 10:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Messervy:
Now I have to ask....How many (whatever) was a ******y....shillingh.....?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A shilling and a bob are the same thing,5p in modern money,12p old money,the main coins are 10 bob(which had seven straight sides),2 bob and 1 bob.I still use the term bob.There were halves which were half a penny and back in the day of 240p to the pound there used to be a coin called a farthing which was a quarter of a penny.We still have a 2p piece.

New EU legislation plans to do away with coppers,coppers are strangely enough money made from copper,any money below the value of a shilling is a copper.
A slang term for coins is washers,

A guinea is 21 bob and has something to do with horses,the price of a horse was in guineas and not pounds.
When the number of pence in a pound was reduded from 240 pence to 100pence(around 1972)the guinea and farthing were done away with.

American money,whats a quarter?25c?Whats a nickel? 2 bob?

macker33
02-03-2005, 11:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jose.MaC:

So in asia do they get asian shape? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I certainly hope there are oriental mermaids,it would be such a letdown if there isnt.
I dont know what a Gim or monitor is,there is a bell ringing somewhere though so if theres something to tell please do.
I am very interested in hearing about sea creatures and myths belonging to the sea.

a good muth site (http://www.pantheon.org/)

Pr0metheus 1962
02-03-2005, 11:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by macker33:
American money,whats a quarter?25c?Whats a nickel? 2 bob? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A quarter is basically the American equivalent of the old English Crown (25c = a quarter dollar and a crown is five bob or a quarter of a pound Sterling).

A nickel would be a shilling (a 'Bob') and a dime would be two bob.

Confused yet? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I love old English money. I'm just old enough to remember using the old money. Here's a guide:

The old (pre-1971) system of money was based on one pound (‚£ ) = 20 shillings (s) = 240 pence (d). After decimalization, the pound is 100 new pence or pennies (p). The chart below shows the different coins that were in circulation at one time or another, and their value. Common bank notes (paper money) include the half-pound, pound (quid), 5-pound (fiver), and 10-pound. Currency converter for finding the value of the pound in $ USD, $ CAD, ‚"ö¨ Euros, etc.

OLD MONEY NEW MONEY (after 1971)
‚£ (libra) = pound ‚£ = pound
s (solidus) = shilling
d (denarius) = penny/pence p = [new] penny/pence (pee)
‚£1,3/6 = 1 pound, 3 shillings, 6 pence ‚£1.50 = 1 pound, 50 pence
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OLD COIN/NOTE VALUE NEW COINS
farthing 1/4 d
halfpenny (ha'penny) 1/2 d
penny (copper) 1 d
..............................................1/2 p (discontinued)
twopence (tuppence) 2 d
-a silver coin, pre-1643, and a copper coin from the reign of
George III (1738-1820).
................................................1 p
threepence (thruppence or a 'thrupenny bit') 3 d
groat 1351-1662 4 d
fourpence 1836-1856 4 d
................................................2 p
sixpence (tanner) 6 d
-note this is not the same as the tenner, a 10-shilling note.
shilling (bob) 12 d...........5 p
florin 2 s..........10 p
half crown 2/6
crown 5 s
-a commemorative coin, rather than common currency.
half-sovereign/half-pound 10 s..........50 p
-the half-sovereign and sovereign coins were gold and worth
far more than the equivalent notes, at least in the 20th century.
sovereign/pound (quid) 20 s...........‚£1 coin & note = 100 p
-the modern 50p and ‚£1 coins are not gold.
guinea 21 s equiv ‚£1.05
-the guinea has not been minted since 1813, but professional
fees and prices for luxury items are still quoted in guineas.

bertgang
02-03-2005, 11:20 AM
A nightmare, for foreigners.

macker33
02-03-2005, 03:09 PM
I remember the the old 2 bob had florin written on it.

As far as i know there was a half crown(two and six)in circulation but no crown in circulation(ireland pre EU membership).

Also my dad used to have a golden guinea,it was solid gold and obviously worth a lot more than a normal guinea.