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han freak solo
12-13-2005, 08:49 PM
Alright. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Many of you may vaguely remember my recent requirement of wearing glasses, since 22 years of wearing contact lenses has come to an end. My eyes have just turned to cr@p at the breakthrough age of 40.

My TrackIr 2 and my glasses really don't get along. Even my non-reflective lenses give off reflections to the TrackIr which cause major problems. Many have mentioned they have no problem with TrackIr 3 and glasses.

I'll wait a while longer until I get TrackIr 4 and people around these parts give good feed back while wearing spectacles.

Anyway, I tried LEDs on a hat and in the brim of a hat. No workie. The LEDs I've come across are directional. The TrackIr loses the LEDs when tilted at an angle.

The simplest solution for me is a small flashlight on the hat. The non-LED flashlight bulb emits light in almost all directions when the lens and reflector are removed. The TrackIr picks this up perfectly. I just switch off the TrackIr infrared LEDs.

Here's some pics.

BEFORE GLASSES
http://www.lssdigital.com/reflector.jpg

The Offenders
http://www.lssdigital.com/glasses.jpg

AFTER GLASSES
http://www.lssdigital.com/headlight.jpg

I can't believe I didn't think of this before. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Battery life will be my only problem. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Enforcer572005
12-13-2005, 08:59 PM
It appears to me that you may have been assimilated by the Borg....."Resistance is futile"....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

FatBoyHK
12-13-2005, 10:56 PM
I wear glasses and I have zero problem when using TIR2.....

but your idea may still be useful for solving my other problem.... namely the range of the TIR2....

I have a large display and I sit quite far away from it, with TIR rested on its top... I wanna sit further back but TIR won't premit it as it can't pick up the reflected light from my trackhat..... may be your solution can help

Saunders1953
12-13-2005, 11:12 PM
I have a large display and I sit quite far away from it, with TIR rested on its top... I wanna sit further back but TIR won't premit it as it can't pick up the reflected light from my trackhat..... may be your solution can help

Fatboy, this might be solved with TIR 3 with the vector thingy. I have it (TIR3), but don't bother with turning the vector on--even though no 6 DOF in IL2, some people say the vector helps it work better anyway--because as it is I sit about 18-24 inches away from the monitor because I'm nearsighted and can see fine without my glasses to about 2 feet. With the vector on, I need to move back another foot or so in order to get it to work properly, and then I'd need my glasses. So, anyway, if you go to T3, and presumably T4, you may be able to sit farther back.

han freak solo
12-13-2005, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Saunders1953:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I have a large display and I sit quite far away from it, with TIR rested on its top... I wanna sit further back but TIR won't premit it as it can't pick up the reflected light from my trackhat..... may be your solution can help

Fatboy, this might be solved with TIR 3 with the vector thingy. I have it (TIR3), but don't bother with turning the vector on--even though no 6 DOF in IL2, some people say the vector helps it work better anyway--because as it is I sit about 18-24 inches away from the monitor because I'm nearsighted and can see fine without my glasses to about 2 feet. With the vector on, I need to move back another foot or so in order to get it to work properly, and then I'd need my glasses. So, anyway, if you go to T3, and presumably T4, you may be able to sit farther back. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahh! Now that makes sense! The distance might be the key! Less reflection strength the farther away you are from the screen!

I see a TrackIr 4 in my future........

WTE_Ibis
12-14-2005, 02:31 AM
I have trackIR2 and use it with glasses no probs.
Here is a photo. With this setup I can sit close or more than a meter away from screen, works perfectly and all thanks to Toad.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/Ibissix//Glasses.JPG

GAU-8
12-14-2005, 02:37 AM
DISTANCE is a BIG issue with track-ir.

if you can touch the unit (thats TRACK-IR folks..not the other "unit") without leaning forward in your chair,or sim/cockpit...

ITS TOO CLOSE.

move it back until you can barely touch it when leaning forward.

this is probably one of the biggest issues with track-ir, that people think they have enough distance....and they really DONT.
hope it helps some of you with wonky issues.

Salfordian
12-14-2005, 04:12 AM
I have a ping-pong ball covered in reflectors, glued to the end of a telescopic aerial from an old radio, so i can adjust the distance from the track-ir as necessary. This is glued to a clothes peg which clips on the brim of a baseball cap.

No problem with reflection off my specs either

Akronnick
12-14-2005, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by Salfordian:
I have a ping-pong ball covered in reflectors, glued to the end of a telescopic aerial from an old radio, so i can adjust the distance from the track-ir as necessary. This is glued to a clothes peg which clips on the brim of a baseball cap.

No problem with reflection off my specs either

If people we work with could see the crazy gadgets we wear when we fly...

MrBlueSky1960
12-14-2005, 04:40 AM
Hmmm€¦ If I didn€t know better I would think this was a glasseshttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.giffetish ring€¦ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

han freak solo
12-14-2005, 07:09 AM
My glasses dilemma is in looking up at any angle left to right. My TrackIr2 picks up 2 little "arc" reflections in these positions from my glasses. One arc per lens.

I wonder if the non-reflective properties are creating problems at high angles? These lenses are unlike regular lenses in that when viewed from an angle, they give off a slight pinkish reflection.

Looking at them straight ahead, they give no reflections whatsoever. They are really built for driving at night and when someone looks at you they can see your eyes since there are no reflections interfering.

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han freak solo
12-14-2005, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by Enforcer572005:
It appears to me that you may have been assimilated by the Borg....."Resistance is futile"....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

If the Borg looked like your sig, there would be no resistance. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.reviewjournal.com/images/bestoflv/1998/photos/startrek-borg.jpg

T_O_A_D
12-14-2005, 07:19 AM
Its been awhile and I'm not home. But you should be able to filter those reflections out with the TIR software. Albeit you may have ti increase your reflective tape area after the filtering. But this light source you have will work just fine as long as you don't mind wearing a hat, and buying batteries. I get too hot wearing a hat when I fly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Just curious where did you find that light and clip and what purpose was it designed for? I may have a use for it for something else.

JG52Uther
12-14-2005, 07:19 AM
I uuse TiR2 with glasses.Originally i had a pinpong ball covered in reflective material fitted onto an old pen,and then taped to my headset.Even i thought i looked crazy,so i decided to experiment and now i have a 1/2 inch square of reflective material stuck to the bridge of my spare glasses,and i have to say it is just as effective as the other method.

Salfordian
12-14-2005, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by Akronnick:

If people we work with could see the crazy gadgets we wear when we fly...

Haha, too true, that's why I have the curtains closed in my back room so the neighbours can't see me across the alleyway.

Actually thinking about it han, I had problems with the sun reflecting off my glasses, solved it by getting a big target to track (ball) and adjusting the slider in the bottom left of the tracking screen until it was only registering the ball and not the lenses.

han freak solo
12-14-2005, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
Just curious where did you find that light and clip and what purpose was it designed for? I may have a use for it for something else.

The flashlight is a MagLite Solitaire. http://www.maglite.com/product.asp?psc=1AAACELL&pt=R

I got it and the clip and the clear plastic mount from Academy. http://www.academy.com

The clear plastic mount actually had 4 poseable legs to set it on a table for working. I cut the legs off to use the mount in the black clip.

The black clip is really for the Mini MagLite.

I can't remember who made the clip and mount, but they weren't from MagLite.

shotdownski
12-14-2005, 07:44 AM
I also wear glasses and have had zero problems with my TrackIR-2. I have three reflectors stuck to my headset mic boom and the TIR transmitter/receiver is about 2.5 feet away (an arm's length).

Hope you can find a simpler solution than the flashlight.

polak5
12-14-2005, 08:41 AM
I really cant figure out why u are having these problems. u told me before that u used glasses,

Do u stand very close to ur monitor? for some reason i think this is the problem(u get to exited in the battle and get to close to ur monitor, I do it also http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif)

do u have a desk lamp on? or a light in the room?

U getting glare from windows?

Dr2GunzOD
12-14-2005, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by han freak solo:

I wonder if the non-reflective properties are creating problems at high angles? These lenses are unlike regular lenses in that when viewed from an angle, they give off a slight pinkish reflection.



I wouldnt expect your AR coating to be the root of your problem. About 60 % of US populaton have AR coatings (higher in europe/japan).Granted there are several different types of coating and techniques available on the market, I wouldnt think track ir would be able to pick up on that. The reflections off the lenses would be even greater without the AR coating.

I really cant tell by the picture how nearsighted you are (how thick your lenses are), but track ir may be picking up the reflections off the edge of your lenses.


edit: did you try monovision or contact bifocals? they work well for alot of my patients, especially ones in their early 40's.

han freak solo
12-14-2005, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Dr2GunzOD:
I really cant tell by the picture how nearsighted you are (how thick your lenses are), but track ir may be picking up the reflections off the edge of your lenses.


edit: did you try monovision or contact bifocals? they work well for alot of my patients, especially ones in their early 40's.

What's up doc? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Edge of the lenses? That could be since the bottom edge is uncovered and the problem happens only when I tilt my head up. My presciption is for nearsighted vision with a number of 2.50 (I think it had a minus in front of it).

I'm only nearsighted, have been since the age of 7 years old. I wore soft contact lenses from age 17 to the first month of age 40. My disposable contacts are a prescription of 2.75, they are newer than my glasses. I've gone through box after box of these contacts because I was living in denial. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

That contact prescription worked well for about 6 months. Then everything went fuzzy with them, even with new lenses. My older prescription of glasses work exceptionally well.

Cobblestone corneas? I was told that might interfere with my contact wearing from here on out. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

My days of contact lenses appear over. At least I can see well with my glasses on! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

jhbsy
10-31-2006, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by FatBoyHK:
I wear glasses and I have zero problem when using TIR2.....

but your idea may still be useful for solving my other problem.... namely the range of the TIR2....

I have a large display and I sit quite far away from it, with TIR rested on its top... I wanna sit further back but TIR won't premit it as it can't pick up the reflected light from my trackhat..... may be your solution can help

Lucius_Esox
10-31-2006, 10:12 PM
If people we work with could see the crazy gadgets we wear when we fly...



Lol,,, yep.. I have answered the door before now with it all still on... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cold_Gambler
11-01-2006, 05:35 AM
I use a TIR 1 with an LED attached to my hat. Try sanding the surface of the directional LED so that it is scuffed all over. I've been using it for 2 yrs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif.

leitmotiv
11-01-2006, 12:58 PM
Poor sod, I'm blind as a bat without radar, but I can manage the 2 1/2 feet from my 20 inch screen. I would really hate having to wear glasses to play. For one thing, couldn't wear my imitation RAF goggles when I am in the mood---