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kajr
05-28-2006, 05:39 PM
Is there anyone here that owns (or has owned) a CH Products FighterStick or CombatStick and did NOT like it? I am pretty much settled on this as what I want to buy, along with the Pro Throttle. I want to see how the community likes them (or doesn't like them...) before I make the commitment. Thoughts, comments?

SATAN_23rd
05-28-2006, 06:27 PM
I have never heard of anyone not liking them.

I love mine.

Wilburnator
05-28-2006, 07:04 PM
I love my CH Fighterstick, but it doesn't allow for rudder control. If I had to choose between the throttle and pedals to get along with a new CH stick, I would most definately get the pedals. The stick does at least have a throttle wheel.

R_Target
05-28-2006, 07:12 PM
I have the Combatstick and I'm real pleased with it. It took me a while to get used to the light touch, but I think I prefer it now over a stick with more resistance. I was also impressed with the precision of the response compared to what I was used to.

kajr
05-28-2006, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Wilburnator:
I love my CH Fighterstick, but it doesn't allow for rudder control.

I did not know the stick was without rudder control. I guess its either the pedals or the keyboard then... hmmm.

WTE_Galway
05-28-2006, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by kajr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wilburnator:
I love my CH Fighterstick, but it doesn't allow for rudder control.

I did not know the stick was without rudder control. I guess its either the pedals or the keyboard then... hmmm. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i dont use the rudder axis on my FFB2 anyway .. i prefer the pedals

Targ
05-28-2006, 09:29 PM
CH is great stuff, you will not regret your purchase one bit.

GAU-8
05-28-2006, 11:56 PM
definitely "my first sony" look and feel.

quality stuff. too bad thier yokes looks like it was MADE TO FIT in this...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/GAU-8/485H_thumb.jpg

funtionality yeah it works ..but damn, if there is nothing else that makes me feel like im playing on a childs toy, when people come over http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/GAU-8/usb_yoke.jpg

locoloco1592
05-29-2006, 03:21 AM
No doubts get the joystick and the pedals.
You have the option to use the left wheel of the stick as throttle,
http://www.chproducts.com/retail/joysticks/fighter_usb_lg.jpg
much more realistic than to use the torsion of the joystick as rudder.
After all this is a game and everything that helps you to get more immersed, to get more into it the better.
And don`t forget about Track IR...

Choctaw111
05-29-2006, 04:58 AM
I have the Fighterstick, Pro Throttle, and Pro Pedals and this combination of these 3 devices is INCREDIBLE and worth every penny!!!! All of the buttons and switches that you have on them allows you to set so many functions that you almost never have to touch the keyboard for anything which I absolutely love and along with the TrackIR it makes for the best flight sim experience that you can have right now.

|CoB|_Spectre
05-29-2006, 06:41 AM
What can I say? I'm still using the gameport versions (Combat Stick, Pro Throttle & Pro Pedals) I bought in 1996/1997 (don't recall exactly). I have replaced the X and Y pots once in my Combat Stick at around the 7-8 year mark after thousands of hours of simmage, otherwise it has performed beautifully and reliably. You can find cheaper HOTAS, but if you consider how much longer you can reasonably expect CH stuff to hold up, it's a worthwhile investment. IMHO, flying with a twistgrip rudder makes as much sense as driving a car with cursor keys.

kajr
05-29-2006, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by |CoB|_Spectre:
IMHO, flying with a twistgrip rudder makes as much sense as driving a car with cursor keys.

My first joystick with the original IL2 was a Thrustmaster Top Gun Fox Pro 2, and it had a twist rudder. It was so hard to control, and after about a month of playing, the rudder pot broke anyways. I found a plastic key in the neck that could be unscrewed and rotated in order to lock the column, so I did just that. Then I bought a pot with a rotating knob at Radio shack and drilled a hole through the base, connected it and used that for a rudder control. That was awesome, but I vowed never again to buy a joystick with a twist-style rudder control. I can't wait to get pedals now.

It looks like I will be buying CH Products setup, definitely after reading all your posts. I tried out the Saitek x52 at the local CompUSA, and thought it felt light and chintzy. They could stand to put a five pound weight in the bottom of that joystick. I also tried the Cougar HOTAS, but have heard feedback that they are somewhat temperamental, and require some modding/tweeking/fixing to keep them in top shape.

TgD Thunderbolt56
05-29-2006, 06:55 AM
Go CH and don't look back. As others have stated, I'd recommend the stick and pedals if money is an issue then opt for the throttle later (a great suggestion for birthday, christmas or that special anniversary...hehe). Regardless of what combination you choose, make sure to bookmark this page: http://www.ch-hangar.com/

Revvin and the gang over there can help you get the most out of your CH gear...be sure.


TB

horseback
05-29-2006, 12:34 PM
Absolutely, you must get the stick and Pro Pedals. Good rudder control is necessary for this game, and rudder pedals are the way to go. If anything, it is more important than the stick's quality. There are plenty of 'pretty good' sticks out there for less money, but good rudder pedals?

I started with the Pro Pedal myself, then soon replaced my Sidewinder Precision2 with a Combatstick, and added a Pro Throttle a month or so later. About 3 years of heavy use now, without a single problem.

cheers

horseback

Cossack13
05-29-2006, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by kajr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wilburnator:
I love my CH Fighterstick, but it doesn't allow for rudder control.
I did not know the stick was without rudder control. I guess its either the pedals or the keyboard then... hmmm. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>First of all, let me say "Holy cow, kajr's still alive! Who knew?"

I'm using the Fighterstick and Pro Throttle and I have the mini-stick on the Throttle handling the rudder. Been using this for about 2 years now and I'm very happy with both products.

AVG_WarHawk
05-29-2006, 01:56 PM
CH FighterStick and CH Pro Pedals, the best combo there is http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

RevvinUK
05-29-2006, 03:13 PM
In you're position I'd be inclined to go with either the Fighterstick or Combatstick and Pro Pedals and add the Pro Throttle later. The software is flexible enough to add new devices to existing profiles easily, over the years I've added a Flight Sim Yoke and Throttle Quadrant to my original profile that consisted of a Fighterstick, Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals.

kajr
05-29-2006, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Cossack13: First of all, let me say "Holy cow, kajr's still alive! Who knew?"

Hey Cossack, it's been some time! Yeah, I been lying really low...like have not given IL2 a thought in three years or so. But times have changed, and I got the flying bug again. I just got myself the Complete Edition, and am itchin to get out and fly again...soon! Salute! We'll see you in the friendly skies soon I am sure...

flakwagen
05-29-2006, 08:47 PM
In my opion CH Products offers the best joystick for the money. They also make control devices for 'real world' things like industrial machines and electric wheelchairs. I think this gives CH a much better idea of how to build a durable joystick. People rely on their products to make a living and to survive. The other joystick companies are just toy makers.

Flak

Old_Canuck
05-29-2006, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Revvin_UK:
In you're position I'd be inclined to go with either the Fighterstick or Combatstick and Pro Pedals and add the Pro Throttle later. The software is flexible enough to add new devices to existing profiles easily, over the years I've added a Flight Sim Yoke and Throttle Quadrant to my original profile that consisted of a Fighterstick, Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals.

Awww maaaan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Didn't know what I was missing but you guys got me convinced. Been enjoying Combat Stick and Pro Pedals for years but the Pro Throttle has been missing. Will have to peek at their prices again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif

RevvinUK
05-30-2006, 01:36 PM
Provantage (http://www.provantage.com/ch%7E110CHPU.htm) are selling the sticks, rudders and pro throttle for under $100. Perhaps you're next decision is Pro Throttle or Throttle Quadrant http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Personally I use both in one profile, the Throttle Quadrant for engine and other flight controls and the Pro Throttle as a dedicated bombardier control device. Although IL-2 only supports throttle and prop pitch by analogue control you can map digital commands to the levers to give yourself mixture control or controls which I find particularly handy - landing gear, flaps and arrestor hook. Its handy having a visual reference for these controls so when I'm on final to the CV I only need glance down at the Throttle Quadrant to see if the lever is up or down to see if I've dropped my hook, landing gear etc.

kajr
05-30-2006, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Revvin_UK:
Provantage (http://www.provantage.com/ch%7E110CHPU.htm) are selling the sticks, rudders and pro throttle for under $100.

Thanks Revvin, I just ordered the FighterStick from Provantage. It cost me all of $97 including shipping! Better than taking my chanced on eBay. I will look into the throttle and rudder pedals once I am in the air. I think I will buy TrackIR first though...