View Full Version : Which Joystick U Preffer

03-01-2007, 01:01 PM
Hi everybody.
I decided to get more into it so I want to upgrade my gadgets.

Right now I have a Saitek Evo which does fine.
I've been thinking in getting Track IR (left hand would be free), a new joystick and rudder (no rudder on joystick would be needed).

I've been looking through the internet to see which options do I have and it seems joysticks are too tech with LCD displays and stuff.
I only intend to play WWII flight sims and I'm not sure if what I've seen will really adapt to what I want.

What do you say?
Anybody with Thrustmaster or Saitek X52's who can speak their opinions? Do they work for you? Any advice for any joystick in particular?

Thanks everybody!

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-01-2007, 01:11 PM
CH Products are the best in my opinion: http://www.chproducts.com/retail/index.html

I've had several of their products and have NEVER thrown any of them away. I simply gave them to friends over the years.

Currently using:

Fighterstick + Pro Throttle + Pro Pedals + TrackIR


03-01-2007, 01:16 PM
MSFFB2. I had two spares but, junior took one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif The kid better treat it gently.

03-01-2007, 01:19 PM
I'm with Thunderbolt; I have the same CH+TIR setup. I've used a lot of other brands and CH has my vote. I had the gameport set, sold it on eBay (for a surprising sum) and now have the USB set. Stuff's all but bulletproof.

03-01-2007, 01:19 PM
Speaking of FFBs, does a MS FFB Pro work in this game with XP?

03-01-2007, 01:51 PM
I've been a long time Thrustmaster user, having the old F-22 Pro & TQS and now the Cougar. I love my Cougar!!

03-01-2007, 02:25 PM
I'm using a Saitek x-45, Saitek pedals, TiR4 and 2 custom switchboxes (one I just built and reviewed HERE (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/3291087735)
and another I cobbled together from an old Saitek gamepad. Someday I'm building one of these:

03-01-2007, 02:28 PM
I prefer this one:
Guillemot Force Feedback Joystick.

Too bad it's so very rare!

Hey, there's one on ebay, it ends in 4 1/2 hours from now! $0.99 No bids yet!
Go for it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
linky to E-bay (http://cgi.ebay.com/GUILLEMOT-FORCE-FEEDBACK-JOYSTICK-FOR-WINDOWS-98-AND-UP_W0QQitemZ280086279434QQihZ018QQcategoryZ74944QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

03-01-2007, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
Speaking of FFBs, does a MS FFB Pro work in this game with XP?

The USB version works great. I had a little trouble with my old gameport version. There was a wierd delay on the buttlons.

03-01-2007, 02:58 PM
I love my MS FFB stick. I now have a spare that was kindly donated by Udidtoo on a recent visit. The FFB makes my gunnery total **** but I wouldn't swap it for anything so I'm glad now that I have the spare. I have never had any trouble with the stick and have been using it for over 4 years.

Last year Quazi generously donated an X-45 to me and the addition of the throttle opened a whole new dimension to the game. No problems with setting it up either - plug and play.

Recently, at the urging of Udidtoo, I hunted down a pair of CH Pro Pedals. Once again no problems with set-up or operation. (I did however have to learn to fly again as the rudder axis is the opposite of the twist rudder set-up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif.)

I couldn't be happier with my set-up at this point as far as the hardware is concerned. If you can find a MS FFB stick you'll be happy.

03-01-2007, 03:05 PM
I use a MSFFB2/Saitek combo. I hear the CH stuff is great. Never much in the way of complaints... but I cant comment from personal experience. Saitek stuff is good. I have the X-45.. which I modified... and their pedals.. whic are great. I like them better than the CH pedals. Smoother action with a wider stance.

http://star.walagata.com/thumbs/bearcat_myrig.jpg (http://star.walagata.com/w/bearcat/myrig.jpg)

03-01-2007, 03:08 PM
Hi FoolTrottel,
I don't see a throttle lever on the Guillemot stick-I will take it needs a seperate one?

03-01-2007, 05:36 PM
MS Siderwinder 2 FFB. I love it. I tried using the x-45 but I feel like I'm missing a limb without the FFB effects.

03-01-2007, 05:58 PM
I've used 3 Thrustmaster sticks and 1 throttle over the years. Had to change the potentiometers and replace the sticks too often!

Went with CH gear and haven't looked back! Tough as nails and excellent wear characteristics. After a little over 2 years of hard use so far, with an average of 20 hrs/week (that's about 2,400 hours -- yeah, I've got no life http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif), the potentiometers are still very smooth and jitter-free.


03-01-2007, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by sukebeboy:
MS Siderwinder 2 FFB. I love it. I tried using the x-45 but I feel like I'm missing a limb without the FFB effects.

I agree. But the MS does lack features and if you can afford it, mate it with other things. The X45 has a great throttle but without FFB the rest of it resides on the floor at the back of my desk. BC uses every button on his set-up.

03-01-2007, 08:59 PM
I use a combatstichk and expert mouse and a flightstick pro all laid out on a rectangular piece of calkboard on my lap.

I have remove the Y-Axis spring from the flightstick pro and inserted a plastick shim so the stick wont move on its own and I use this for Elevator Trim and the X-axis for rudder with the trigger as breaks and the buttons for squadron commands. The hat is programmed as a mouse for looking.

The combatstick is for main flight controls and the expert mouse also for looking.

So much you can do with CH products.

03-01-2007, 09:03 PM
I'm using MSFFB2, would be the first thing I'd grab if the house were on fire. It's coupled with Thrustmaster Topgun throttle, and pedals, so there's buttons and sequences to play with. If I was better with electronics, would build my own axis box.

Oleg also seems to favour Topgun stick, noticed it on his desk in the '46 bonus DVD. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Who are we to argue with the man?

Does the FFB really stuff up your gunnery? I"ve noticed a difference before and after ordinance drop, but it can be avoided.

03-01-2007, 09:04 PM
I recommend the Saitek Aviator joystick (MSFF2 is better but only available on ebay and its alot more expensive than the Aviator)
CH throttle
Saitek Rudder Pedals although not required because the Saitek Aviator has a twist rudder.
Track IR

03-01-2007, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by super71957:
Hi FoolTrottel,
I don't see a throttle lever on the Guillemot stick-I will take it needs a seperate one?
The bottom slider/wheel (visible all the way right on the picture) can be used for that.