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Pirschjaeger
09-19-2005, 08:07 AM
Hi all,

In Germany glider flying is a popular pasttime. I have some friends that own a few gliders and an airfield. They have offered more than once to take me up and train me to fly them. TBH, although I've never been in a glider, it doesn't seem so interesting to me.

I was hoping some of you guyz could post some experiences and thoughts you've had about gliding.

Thanx,
Fritz

JG52Uther
09-19-2005, 08:49 AM
My squadmate JG52Karaya is learning to fly gliders in Austria.I will point out this thread to him.

SithSpeeder
09-19-2005, 09:10 AM
Pirsch--

Do it! It's flying in such a pure form, like a bird. You'll really get a sense of...flying.

Take advantage of what life presents to you!

* _54th_Speeder *

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who wishes he had a bunch of friends that owned gliders and airports that would take him up.
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Pirschjaeger
09-19-2005, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
My squadmate JG52Karaya is learning to fly gliders in Austria.I will point out this thread to him.

Thx Uther http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fritz

Pirschjaeger
09-19-2005, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by SithSpeeder:
Pirsch--

Do it! It's flying in such a pure form, like a bird. You'll really get a sense of...flying.

Take advantage of what life presents to you!

* _54th_Speeder *

***
who wishes he had a bunch of friends that owned gliders and airports that would take him up.
***

Sith, your enthusism is almost inpirational but what about sharing? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Remember what Brainy Smurf always said; "Papa Smurf says share and share alike". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Vee have vays of making you took. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Fritz

OD_79
09-19-2005, 09:51 AM
I was under training to be a gliding instructor with the RAF, until I had to stop due to University, and I would say go for it. It takes far more skill to fly a glider than a powered aircraft (I know I've done both). To stay up in a glider you need to be able to read the conditions around you and it takes a lot more judgement for whether you can make it back to your base for landing. If you can do it then see if you can have a winch launch as this is a great experience! Also a lot of gliders are fully aerobatic so don't think it will be dead boring!
good luck!

OD.

PBNA-Boosher
09-19-2005, 10:34 AM
ST_Pawnee? Where'd he go?

Kazimierz.
09-19-2005, 11:09 AM
As they all said, take it up, I had a days gliding, one towed lift, three winch lifts, and one of those the cable snapped, but it is a wonderful feeling, hitting thermals etc, and you usually get to go on the controls, and believe me flying here, in virtual land helped a lot.

Pirschjaeger
09-19-2005, 11:35 AM
Interesting guyz. How many hours are needed to get in the air?


Fritz

Vuco1
09-19-2005, 12:04 PM
My grammas brother said that right after the ww 2 , somewhere in 1948/49 in Yugoslavia it was possible to attend glider school for free after high school, he finished the basic course, but gave up on advanced training and went to college.
Throw he said that it was dangerous (2 guys from his group died when they collided on landing), and weary Spartanic (from start they flied in single seater and whit no radio in it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif), I still find that opportunity that he had weary attractive. Shearing the real life skies whit Mesersmits and Yaks (I'm not making this up Yugoslavia had an interesting mix of aircraft in its service after the war,and he reported traing on the same airport whit them ) sounds like a dream to me.

Oh, and I say YES! Seize the opportunity Pirschjaeger! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

neural_dream
09-19-2005, 12:14 PM
Don't miss that Fritz. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

notamuppet
09-19-2005, 12:36 PM
In my experience DO IT!!!! you wont regret it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JG52Karaya-X
09-19-2005, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
My squadmate JG52Karaya is learning to fly gliders in Austria.I will point out this thread to him.

I'm currently doing my (motor)-glider licence "Klasse B" (which enables you to fly a glider together with passengers - unlike "Klasse A" which only enables you to fly gliders all alone). I'm member of the "ASK Sportfliegerclub" which has its base at Wr.Neustadt West military airport (international codename LOXN). Unfortunately there are NO fighter aircraft or helicopters (we go J35D Draken, F5E Tigers and UH60 BlackHawks... oh and C130 Hercules) on that field - it's a sole "Fallschirmj¤ger" training camp with some transport aircraft.

Actually my PC simulator experience (I've been playing PC sims since I'm 7 years old) has come in very handy - my flight-instructor was very astonished and surprised that I needed no instruction at all on the instruments and to flight-basics (rudder action-reaction of the plane in all three axis, climb). So I skipped the "Gew¶hnungsflüge" (= getting used to the plane) after just 3 flights of each only 20minutes and I'm currently in the "Platzrundeneinweisung"-Phase where you do touch and go takeoffs to train landing. It's intended that you do like a 100-200 takeoffs and landings in this phase and after that you're sent of to your first all-alone flight around the airfield.

Of course it's not comparable to flying a Warbirds but it's interesting and extremely enjoyable non the less. It's a totally different experience to flying a plane on PC. Controls and flight itself is a lot more dynamic and can get exhausting (strong wind = constant rudder and stick corrections). My plane (a "Falke SF25C" with Rotax engine and wodden propeller) actually has a trim flap http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif which can be adjusted inflight, it has "St¶rklappen" instead of landing-flaps which are intended to decrease speed and increase drop-rate during landing approach and honestly. Training can be boring from time to time (touch and go http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif) but that's nothing to give up on.

One more thing about my own training experience: I told my instructor Herr Krenn before our first flight that I had experience with a WWII flight sim called IL2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles and that I mostly fly the Bf109 which is my favourite plane. I also told him about the similarities in the cockpit gauges/controls/etc. After my first "leveling out" and "keep speed XY in a climb" exercises I did my first turns...very tight... Bf109 turns of course http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif... my instructor was... "not amused" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif. He actually said to me: "This is not a Bf109 fighter plane and we're not in a dogfight either so keep these turns down boy, will you" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Well you got to have some fun, don't cha? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Waldo.Pepper
09-19-2005, 03:43 PM
I've done it, flown a glider that is. It was great. Don't pass up the chance.

LStarosta
09-19-2005, 03:46 PM
The best thing about flying gliders as opposed to airplanes is not having to worry about engine-out procedures...

DmdSeeker
09-19-2005, 04:14 PM
The best that 99.9 % of us could ever dream of is a Cessna.

Yet a Cessna is no more than a flying Ford Taunus; it's not SUPPOSED to be exciting! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

OTOH; nobody uses gliders as utility transports. Therefore, by definition, recreational sport planes.

You owe it to yourself to try it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

leeG727
09-19-2005, 08:19 PM
I owned a Schweitzer SGS 1-26E for a few years and flew the 1-26 Nationals back in 1982. You have to have the right kind of day to appreciate what soaring is all about. If you go up on a nice clear calm day, you€ll get a gentle sled ride back to earth. It€s ok, but boring. You need to go up when the air is boiling. A day with lots of white, puffy cumulus clouds. These are formed by thermals, columns of rising air. A glider is always sliding down hill. Gravity is its engine after all. But when the thermals are going up faster than you are coming down, that€s when the magic happens. The trick is finding the thermals and then spiraling within the central core so it will carry you up. When soaring you spend half your time in a steep bank, thermaling up to gain altitude. The other half of the time is spent looking for the next thermal (or a field to land in). Competitive soaring is a racing sport. Fastest pilot around a fixed course wins. You race around the course in a series of climbs and straight glides. The atmosphere is a powerful thing. Most people just think in terms of the wind blowing along horizontally. They don€t think about the vertical movement of the air, the lift and the sink. I€ve climbed 9000 feet in 5 minutes in my motorless airplane. I have a couple of flights over 5 hours long. Try it; I€m sure you€ll enjoy it.

Joilet_Xray
09-20-2005, 07:32 AM
~S! Been Flyin Gliders since 1976, ex CFIG, Glider owner since 1977, on my second one now. Its a high performance 15 Meter racer designed by Richard Schreder, an RS-15.

The link below will take your there.

You should immediately take the flight offered, dont past GO got straight to the Glider port!

You'll meet great people, very enthusiatic about flight, they'll take you in as one of their own.

Its the last and only pure flight there is, just basic stick and rudder.

When I took my first Glider intro ride, I climbed out of the cockpit, went straight to the office, signed up for lessons, and took my first formal instructional flight that day. 'Been at it ever since.

My only regret is not starting sooner in life!

My advice ............go to the gliderport with your friend.

Joilet_Xray
09-20-2005, 07:35 AM
Oops forgot the link.

http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/RS-15/N50GL.html


~S!

BPO5_Jinx
http://www.birdsofprey16thgviap.com/forums/

effte
09-21-2005, 02:27 AM
Go for it. One of the best things to do in the air, you are really flying in a glider, as opposed to transporting yourself throught he air.

And if you want to be more 'in' on what is going on, here's a free two week primer:

http://www.silentwings.no

When they get multiplayer in, let us arrange contests in here! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cheers,
Fred