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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 08:36 PM
Here's a suggestion for the forum moderators to consider and, perhaps, draw to the attention of the UBI and Maddox1C marketing types:



Think about throwing into the Pay AddOn package a CD containing the best of the "Movies" which have been made by community members(with the creators permission of course, which they would surely receive quite easily). That would be great marketing!!! On a 600+Mb CD (costing mere pennies to make/burn) you could get 15 to 20 or so of the reasonably sized movies(running 10Mb to 40Mb each)..that would be, maybe, 90-120 minutes of viewing time!

Buyers of the Pay Addon Package would then be able to pass around the Movie Disc (Not the Sim/AddOn disc!) to their friends and/or co-workers to show them how great(in graphics, realism, etc) IL2:FB is, thereby leading to many additional Sales of both FB and the Addon to New Customers!!!!

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 08:36 PM
Here's a suggestion for the forum moderators to consider and, perhaps, draw to the attention of the UBI and Maddox1C marketing types:



Think about throwing into the Pay AddOn package a CD containing the best of the "Movies" which have been made by community members(with the creators permission of course, which they would surely receive quite easily). That would be great marketing!!! On a 600+Mb CD (costing mere pennies to make/burn) you could get 15 to 20 or so of the reasonably sized movies(running 10Mb to 40Mb each)..that would be, maybe, 90-120 minutes of viewing time!

Buyers of the Pay Addon Package would then be able to pass around the Movie Disc (Not the Sim/AddOn disc!) to their friends and/or co-workers to show them how great(in graphics, realism, etc) IL2:FB is, thereby leading to many additional Sales of both FB and the Addon to New Customers!!!!

<center>Wiley</center><center><font color="#FF0000";font size="3pt">Click HERE to visit Wiley'sWWIIGunCameraWorld (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/flightsims/oberstguncam/Frameset/)</center>
<center>http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/wi/wileycoyote2/IwoJimatiny2.gif (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/flightsims/oberstguncam/Movies/SandsOne.WMV) </center>
<center><font size ="2pt">Click Flag-Raising for the Full-Size(4.2Mb) Version</center>


<center>Wiley</center><center><font color="#FF0000";font size="3pt">Click HERE to visit Wiley'sWWIIGunCameraWorld (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/flightsims/oberstguncam/Frameset/)</center>
<center>http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/wi/wileycoyote2/IwoJimatiny2.gif (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/flightsims/oberstguncam/Movies/SandsOne.WMV) </center>
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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 10:19 PM
that would be cool.
only problem is getting copyright permission for all those songs we use. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 11:50 PM
That is a great idea but Unnatural-One has a very valid point there, if it were free then no problem could be found but since it will be a PAID Add-On then we can see Copy Rights issues come up, specially now with the RIAA looking to make fights!

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 12:03 AM
I'm with oberest wily on this one.
The copyright issue could be worked
around,I'm sure.
The marketing potential would be enormous.

XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 12:28 AM
Hmmm...copyright... I forgot the music ....

Lawyers would be drooling at the prospect of lawsuits...

Too bad! It was a nice idea for a while....http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 01:21 PM
he could get around that by saying that the CD with the videos is free, but it comes packaged with the game. You in essence, have to buy the game to get the "free" CD.

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 06:47 PM
Ummm...that might work but Ubisoft's legal team should look into this idea.

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 08:37 AM
Depending on how the music is used in the films*, re-dubbing may a possibility.

There is 'some' copy-right free music out there.



*I know of some films where the music is key to the story telling (Earnhardt).



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XyZspineZyX
10-26-2003, 12:38 PM
Good idea.
I think there are loads of 3rd party projects worthy of inclusion. (not just movies)

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XyZspineZyX
10-26-2003, 05:26 PM
Don't package the movie CD with the pay add-on. Put a coupon in the package redeemable for the movie CD. That should get around the fact that if the "free" CD was in the package, laywers could claim that it was the addon that was free and you were paying for the movies, thus invoking the copyright issue.

Really, ubi should look into this. Having a movie CD floating around could drum up tremendous interst in IL-2/FB and by association, all ubi products.

Honestly I'd be surprised to find out that they weren't thinking about something at least similar. Don't dismiss ubi as stupid just because they seem to have missed the boat here and there.

And no, I'm not in the employ of ubi. If I was I'd make sure every plane everyone wanted was included in the add-on's for free, had working cockpits, and included some movie making software. I think this is the main reason ubi doesn't want to hire me. They would be broke in 12 months but we would have everything we ever needed for IL-2.

P.S. As I was being booted out the dorr my last act would be making all coding open source.

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