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paddy06
07-01-2007, 03:58 PM
Hi, Although I'm not a frequent poster on this wonderful forum I want to ask you, and especially the Swedish members, a question.

In about 3 weeks I will be going to Sweden on my holiday and will be visiting the neighbourhood of Linkoping. On the internet I've found a museum there http://www.sfhm.se/FlygDefaultPage____26.aspx
which I planned to visit.

Can someone please tell me what to expect from it (any interesting or rare planes to be seen) and how much time it takes to see it all. Although my wife understands my interest in planes I don't want to bore her to much http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

If the museum is worth a visit I will post some pictures. Are there any other places in Sweden worth a visit concerning planes?

Best regards,
Patrick

Tbag_13
07-01-2007, 04:45 PM
Yes, from what I heard. They have the Ju86, the only one left on the globe IIRC. Jutocsa would be very glad if someone could take 1-5GB of pictures of the Ju86. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif If you would be willing to do that, send a PM to Jutocsa or me.

Anyway, have fun in Sweden, it's a wonderful country!

Jasko76
07-01-2007, 04:57 PM
Been there a few times. It's not that large, but it nevertheless contains some very interesting types, from early Swedish fighters, to early jets and some newer designs. Well worth a visit. I once drove nearly 400 kms in one direction just to visit it!

paddy06
07-01-2007, 05:49 PM
Well, in that case I will go and visit the museum. I will be going to Sweden on the 20th of juli and about a week later we will be at the museum. As for the pictures.... It shound'nt be a problem with my new Panasonic DMC-FZ50 10 mp camera http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Any other interesting sites to see in Sweden that we should'nt miss?

DIRTY-MAC
07-01-2007, 07:16 PM
Here are the planes you can see at Linköpings Flygvapenmuseum.
last time I visited, I got to take color pics of the whole Seversky P-35s cocpit interior and I saw a glimpse of the Mig15 standing outside in a restrikted area.


Here are the planes you can see at Linköpings Flygvapenmuseum.


EARLY ONES
M 1 Nieuport IVG
B 1 Bréguet CU.1 delv. replika
Sk 1 Albatros 120 04
M 7 Macchi M 7 945
J 1 Phönix 947
122 D III
S 6 Fokker CV-E 386 F 3-86

TRAINERS
Sk 9 De Havilland Moth Trainer 5558
D.H.60T
Sk 10 Raab-Katzenstein Tigerschwalbe 536 F 1-101
RK-26
Sk 11A De Havilland Tiger Moth 515 F 5-19
D.H.82A
Sk 12 Focke-Wulf Stieglitz 670 F 5-60
FW 44
Sk 14 North American 610 F 5-110
NA 16-4M
Sk 15 Klemm 35B 5075 F 5-116
Sk 16A North American Harvard IIB 16109 F 10-82
AT-16
Sk 25 Bucker 181 Bestmann 25114 F 5-314
Sk 50B Saab 91B Safir 50046 F 5-46
Sk 60B Saab 105 60091 F 5-91

JETS
J 21R Saab 21R 21286 F 7-rN
J 28A De Havilland Vampire 28001 F 3-rP
D.H.100 Mk1
J 29B Saab 29 Tunnan 29398 F 22-vF
J 32B (32E) Saab 32 Lansen 32541 F 3-06
J 33 De Havilland Venom 33025 F 1-bE
D.H.112 NF Mk 51
J 34 Hawker Hunter Mk50 34016 F 9-06
J 35F Saab 35 Draken 35410 framkropp
JAS 39 Saab 39 Gripen 39-2 -2 svart
Saab 210 Lill-Draken

WWII
B 3 Junkers Ju-86K 155 F 21-bA
J 9 Seversky P-35 2134 F 3-53
J 11 Fiat CR.42 Falco 2543 F 9-09
J 20 Reggiane 2000 Falco 1 2340 F 10-40
J 21A Saab 21A-3 21364 F 6-rR
J 22A FFVS 22 22280 F 3-rL
J 26 North American Mustang 26020 F 16-bA
P-51D
S 14 Fieseler Fi 156 Storch 3812 F 3-67
S 17BL Saab 17 17005 F 3-05
S 31 Supermarine Spitfire 31051 F 11-51
PR Mk XIX

F 19
B 4A Hawker Hart 714 F 19-M
J 8A Gloster Gladiator 278 F 19-M

RESTAURATIONS
B 18B Saab 18 18172 F 14-rD
S 16 Caproni Ca313 replika

TRANSPORTS
Tp 47 Consolidated Catalina 47001 79 outdoors
PBY-5A (Canso)
Tp 52 Engl. Electric Canberra 52002 F 8-02 outdoors
B Mk 2
Tp 78 Noorduyn Norseman 78001 F 2
UC-64A
Tp 79 Douglas Dakota 79007 F 13-797 outdoors
C-47 (DC-3)
Tp 82 Vickers 668 Varsity 82001 F 8-80 outdoors
Tp 83 Hunting Pembroke 83008 F 13-85 outdoors
Percival P.66 CMk 52

HELIKOPTERS
Hkp 1 Vertol 44 Bananen 01001 M-01
Hkp 2 Sud Aviation Alouette II 02406 F 7-92
SE.3130
Hkp 5B Schweizer 300C 05221 -21

SOME OTHERS
Fpl 51 Piper L-21B Super Cub 51256 A-56
Fpl 801 MFI-9B Militrainer 801-42 F 5-01
P 1 Sparmann Sparmann- 814 F 8-61
S.1A jagaren
Ö 1 CFM 01 Tummelisa 3656

GLIDERS
G 101 Schulgleiter 80
SG-38
Se 102 Grunau Baby B 2 2152 F 3-03
Se 103 DFS Kranich 8211 F 5-05
Se 104 DFS Weihe 8316 F 5

OUTDOOR EXEBITIONS
A 32A Saab 32 Lansen 32197 F 6-21
AJ 37 Saab 37 Viggen 37-1
AJS 37 Saab 37 Viggen 37027 F 10-57 röd
J 35A Saab 35 Draken 35090 F 16-52
J 35D Saab 35 Draken 35375 F 4-05 klätterfpl
J 35J Saab 35 Draken 35540 F 10-40 blå
J 35J Saab 35 Draken 35541 F 10-43 gul
JA 37 Saab 37 Viggen 37301 FC-01
Rb 68 Bristol Bloodhound
Mk II
Sk 37 Saab 37 Viggen 37800 FC-22
Sk 60A Saab 105 60113 F 5-113


AND IN STORAGE
AJS 37 Saab 37 Viggen 37108 F 10-55
FPL 53 Dornier Do-27A-4 53273 A-83
Fpl 54 MFI-10C Vipan 54382 A-82
Hkp 3B Augusta-Bell 204 03422 F 10-93
Hkp 3C Augusta-Bell 204 03306 Armén-46
Hkp 4B Vertol 107 II-14 04451 F 17-91
Hkp 6A Augusta-Bell 206 A 06274 -74
J 28B De Havilland DH.100 Vampire Mk50 28311 F 5-17
J 29F Saab 29 Tunnan 29507 F 3-53
J 30 De Havilland Mosquito Delar
J 35 Saab 35 Draken 35-5 05
J 35J Saab 35 Draken 35539 F 10-39
Rb 06 Beech
Rb 08 Saab
S 32C Saab 32 Lansen 32917 F 11-17
S 35E Saab 35 Draken 35906 F 11-06
S 9 Hawker Osprey Delar
Se 104 DFS Weihe 8313 F 5-28
Sk 28C De Havilland DH.115 Vampire T Mk55 28451 F 5-81
Sk 5 Heinkel HD 35 Restaureras
Sk 35C Saab 35 Draken 35811 F 10-80
Sk 61 Scottish Aviation Bulldog 61030 F 5-30
TF-35 Saab 35XD Draken 351160 AT-160
Tp 45 Beechcraft 18R N 9887A
Tp 46 De Havilland DH.104 Dove G-ANVU
Tp 81 Grumman JRF-5 Goose N79901
Tp 85 Sud Aviation SE.210 Caravelle 85172 F 16-851
Donnet-Leveque LII Flygfisken 10
Douglas AD-4 Skyraider SE-EBI
Gloster Meteor T 7 SE-CAS
Holmberg GH Racer
MFI-15 Safari 15001 SE-XCB
MIG-15 (Lim-2) 1B00215
Mignet HM-14 Loppan
Njurunda NFK 1 Anfänger
Saab B3LA Mockup
Siebel Si 204D NC 701 SE-KAE
Thulin G 15 (Restaureras)
Saab 91A Safir 91104 F 8-4


Link to homepage:
http://www.sfhm.se/templates/pages/FlygStandardPage____889.aspx

major_setback
07-02-2007, 03:32 PM
Grumman Goose in storage. mmm I'm feeling hungry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

paddy06
07-03-2007, 01:45 AM
Photgraphic requests are being taken.
So gentlemen, any preferences?

WOLFMondo
07-03-2007, 02:00 AM
They have a mosquito and its in storage! A crime indeed!

Wurkeri
07-03-2007, 02:16 AM
The Mosquito is listed as "delar" which mean parts.

F19_Orheim
07-03-2007, 08:13 AM
Hey and welcome to Sweden...

You will be able to see the Gloster Gladiator (designation J8 in Sweden as in Jakt 8, Fighter 8).

This particular aircraft is the sole surviving J8 of the Gladiators in Swedish Airforce and one of the 12 that was sent to Finland during Finnish Winterwar together with the Swedish Volunteer unit F19.

Also interesting to know is that this airplane was used as a "template" making the J8 flyable in the sim. If you get the opportunity to view inside the cockpit (not able to by "default" but you might be able to if you ask nicely), you will immediately recognize the cockpit from IL2.... . we spent a good deal of time inside the cockpit during the research for this model..

Indeed this airplane is one of a kind.. the best preserved ORIGINAL Gladiator in the world, and they aren't that many left

http://web.telia.com/~u52220224/108J8_103-0390.jpg


You will also be able to see three other nice imported planes that served in the late 30ies and early 40ies in the Swedish airforce, the Fiat CR 42 (J11), the Republic Seversky EP-1 (J9) and the Reggiane Re 2000 Falco 1 (J20)

http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/110J11_103-0359.jpg

http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/109J9_112-1258.jpg

http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/111J20_103-0318.jpg

and of course the all Swedish designs of J21 and J22.


http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/112J21A113-1360.jpg

http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/113J22_113-1358.jpg


I have always found the J22 to be a very beautiful airplane...

Welcome mate

F19_Orheim
07-04-2007, 02:20 AM
ps.. of course your wife will love the place too,http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Tbag_13
07-04-2007, 05:24 PM
Yes, as already said, MANY pics of the Ju 86. Check PM, paddy.

paddy06
07-05-2007, 01:21 PM
Hi Tbag_13, thanks for the PM. Please check yours.

Best regards,
Patrick

Bartsimpson-
07-06-2007, 01:38 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by paddy06:
Hi, Although I'm not a frequent poster on this wonderful forum ...............

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Bartman .

paddy06
07-06-2007, 01:43 AM
I did put up some posts before but under a different name http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

touchdown42
07-06-2007, 01:59 AM
hi paddy,

in case you are slightly interested in naval history i would recommend to visit the Wasa in Stockholm. If you have a family with kids perhaps Skansen is a good idea as well. It is a big open air museum, just google it, they have a website.

have fun

paddy06
07-06-2007, 03:17 AM
Stockholm and the Wasa is definitly on our list of places to visit and things to see. So is IKEA Stockholm. It should be the largest in the world. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
I'll google Skansen as well, sounds interesting.
It seems like we got more to see than we have days in Sweden http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

boxmike
07-06-2007, 10:30 AM
Surfed around TV channels yesterday and stopped to SVTEuropa because of a landing D.H.(Tiger?)Moth showing there, seemed a modern show. Was about surf on but then a Caproni bomber taxied by the Moth, never seen that one in colors. Went checking and seems the program was Swedish drama 'Tre Kärlekar'. I found out that Caproni was a replica by filming crew. Is it the same S 16 Caproni Ca313 replika in the museum?

Rgds,

- box

Viking-S
07-06-2007, 11:39 AM
I believe the Caproni replica is under restoration somewhere outside the museum. They had a very bad reputation. Maybe for a reason, many crashed and burned, a friend of mines father was killed in one of them.
The visit to Malmslätt is worth the effort as is the Wasa museum in Stockholm. If you want a tour in the archipelago or sightseeing on the waters of Stockholm pm me and I will arrange some free tickets for you.

Regards

Viking

paddy06
07-07-2007, 06:15 AM
Viking, check your pm.

Patrick

Viking-S
07-07-2007, 10:36 AM
This from outside the museum last (2 years a go) time I visited.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/F16_fatboy/Mig.jpg

Viking

And tickets are ready Paddy!