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rbuchner
04-14-2008, 08:28 AM
Hi,
Im very new to this game, and still could not figure out some points while playing it online.

Sorry if its been asked before, did a search but could not find exactlly what Im asking.

1) Why landing? Is it easiar and faster just bail out and hit refly? Is it just for the feeling of not being killed, and finished the mission properly?

Sometimes I can read the messages saying pilotXYZ landed safe and sound... other times that pilot ABC was captured by enemy forces... and so on... Whats the real meaning of those messages?

If you cant rearm or refuel, I cant see the point of flying back to the base...

Pne more thing: Is there a tutorial about how to land?

Thanks!

erco415
04-14-2008, 08:42 AM
Welcome to the game, good to have you aboard!

Some servers keep track of how many planes each side has and when you bail you lose a plane unnecessarily.

Also, consider what you want out of the sim. Is it just to fly around and shoot? Then look for servers that will airstart you and don't care if you bail to refly. Nothing wrong with that, if that's your cup of tea. I find the sim more enjoyable when I try to accomplish all of the phases of a mission. Bringing a shot up plane back and safely landing it is very satisfying. Heck, making a decent landing anytime is deeply satisfying! For me anyway;-)

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-14-2008, 08:55 AM
Well, not to sound sarcastic, but there are wheels, struts and flaps for a reason.

erco415 said it pretty well too. On the servers that track the statistics, the points are much higher if you land than if you simply bail out and hit refly. More rewarding too to survive a hairy furball and get home to land a smoking bird.

As far as tutorials on landing,I believe there are a couple (for carriers as well as land bases) in the ntrks. Until you're familiar with the stall speeds and other various low-speed handling qualities of your aircraft, just remember to set up a long, shallow approach, drop your flaps gradually (so they won't jam if you're going too fast), manipulate your throttle to maintain enough airspeed and set down as gently as possible. Otherwise, practice.

Capt.LoneRanger
04-14-2008, 09:01 AM
Welcome rbuchner!

As erco415 already posted, there are a lot of servers that keep track of the number of planes and lives you lost, if you did survive the bail and made it home or were captured when bailing behind enemy-lines, etc. You need to shoot down a lot of planes in order to justify loosing a pilot AND a plane for each sortie you fly.

Another point is the score you get. For each plane you shoot down, you get 100 points - that is, if you make it back home. If you crash or bail, you get only 10 points. It's even worse on servers like warclouds, that use a special method of calculating score and comparing numbers of take-offs to numbers of landings, to stop people from simply disconnecting or bailing, when the fight turns against them.

On some servers, it doesn't count, though. That's what the old boys call "Air-Quake-Servers" - you start (usually even in the air) and take as many planes with you as you can, before you run out of fuel, ammo or planeparts keeping you in the air. That's why ramming is very popular on these servers, too...

Xiolablu3
04-14-2008, 10:13 AM
If you land you get your score times 10.

1 kill equals :-

100 points if you land safely in your own lines on a friendly airbase

10 points if you die


Various inbetweens for bailing over friendly terrory, crash landing in friendly territory, and in enemy territory.

One point, when you crash land with your plane more or less intact, make sure you jump out of the plane and escape, BEFORE you hit refly, you get more points.

SeaFireLIV
04-14-2008, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by rbuchner:


1) Why landing? Is it easiar and faster just bail out and hit refly? Is it just for the feeling of not being killed, and finished the mission properly?



This kind of philosphy is why we have airquake servers. It`s called `gaming the game`. It`s a flight sim, but why bother landing? I land all the time if I am able.

Of course, as others have said, some servers give you less points from a kill if you fail to land properly.

But it`s kinda sad to see this kind of philosophy these... `If there`s no tangible reward why bother?` ethos.

WOLFMondo
04-14-2008, 10:50 AM
The way some are setup each side has a finite amount of planes and pilots. When that reserve runs out (because players die and crash and whatnot) or one side has completed there ground objective the mission ends.

If you bail out, die, get captured or anything else that makes that reserve go down quicker, your actually hurting your team.

Jaws2002
04-14-2008, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by rbuchner:

What's the point for landing?

So you can see your plane bouncing like a scared rabit, see how many kinds of effects you can get when your gear breaks, your plane skids along the runway leaving a long trail of parts and pieces alover the place.

Is worth it trust me.
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LEBillfish
04-14-2008, 11:00 AM
Even when it would be wise to bail out (plane so badly shot up there is no way it will land without crashing), I still prefer to "ditch" then bail to give credit where due (plane sitting, ditching then sitting in it a sad tactic).

Flying is easy, heck even taking off if you just get it up to speed. Even air combat here....What's tough is setting that plane back down so you'rs safe, and the plane is still usable.

Only time I bail is when the plane is going down for sure, or so damaged with enemy around I'll get killed....Lastly when flying a mission of "SHuddering Sky" against B-29's. Now that's fun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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rbuchner
04-14-2008, 11:06 AM
Thanks for all the replies. Im glad my question wasnt in vain.

I have asked for a landing tutorial for a reason too... Im all for completing the whole missions. And its not for points (to be honest, Im not worried about points). I just want to learn the whole thing and do the right way...

About the tutorials, whats ntrks? and where is it?

Thanks again!

gizmo60
04-14-2008, 12:47 PM
The missions in the following link called Straight From The Farm teach you all about take-offs and landings.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/8911062445

Its well worth working through these as they are very good.

Schwarz.13
04-14-2008, 01:18 PM
Hi rbuchner.

With regards to landing - i have to say the first time i made a successful (and smooth) landing it was a fantastic feeling http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

This little video might help you:

link (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2463442122151151548)

Good luck!

Zeus-cat
04-14-2008, 08:16 PM
I made the "Straight From the Farm" campaign to show people how to takeoff and land from grass strips and aircraft carriers. The game does not come with tutorial missions, so I made some.

Landing is arguably the most important skill a pilot can have; especially on a carrier.

Follow the link below to find the campaign.

Thanks for the nice words about my campaign gizmo60.

Bearcat99
04-14-2008, 09:41 PM
Taking off.. getting to the objective , completing the mission and successfully landing, especially with a bent bird is a huge part of the overall fun & challenge for me. I don't really care about how many points I get if I either crash on final, loose my wingman, kill a friendly, or don't complete the mission objectives.

Welcome aboard... Hit the Nugget's Guide in my sig as well.

LEBillfish
04-14-2008, 11:00 PM
my typical landing....

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BAG.LordDante
04-15-2008, 09:03 AM
If u fly to your objektive for half an hour, drop ur Bombs, hit the target, and then on the way back u get jumped by two bogies ( ? ) ur bird is badly injurd ( one engine missing, the other one is running rough, fuel leak, no elevators ect...) still u manage somehow to stay in the air till ur at ur base. on final ur last engine quits so u glide the last few meters an mange to get the bird down in one pice, then u will know whats the point of landing...
EVERYTHING !!!

Breeze147
04-15-2008, 11:18 AM
One of my proudest moments in the sim was flying and out of fuel Hurricane about 20 km to a perfect dead stick landing.

rbuchner
04-15-2008, 08:54 PM
My wife letft me because of this game . Smile

Are you serious??

BAG.LordDante
04-16-2008, 01:22 AM
ok and because of this other guy she met on Mallorca

Never let ur parnter take a vacation alone when he is angry http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

But like always in live,
when on door slamms shut an other one will open !

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Capt.LoneRanger
04-16-2008, 01:33 AM
Agreed, Bearcat.

IMHO one of the most thrilling and immersive aspects of this game is to bring a wounded plane back over the fence and to the homeplate.