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Ninjashrimp
09-22-2011, 08:04 PM
Does anyone have any theories/suggestions on how ACR will (hopefully) provide closure on Lucy? Is she actually dead, or was it an illusion created by Juno to force Desmond into a comatose state?

Animuses
09-22-2011, 08:06 PM
Desmond never left the Animus. Ezio is not real, neither is Shaun or Rebecca. When AC3 ends, Lucy and Vidic will take him out of the Animus for the FIRST TIME!

naran6142
09-22-2011, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Animuses:
Desmond never left the Animus. Ezio is not real, neither is Shaun or Rebecca. When AC3 ends, Lucy and Vidic will take him out of the Animus for the FIRST TIME!

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LightRey
09-23-2011, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by Animuses:
Desmond never left the Animus. Ezio is not real, neither is Shaun or Rebecca. When AC3 ends, Lucy and Vidic will take him out of the Animus for the FIRST TIME!
D:
don't do that. You'll mess the kid's mind D:

AddictsCreed
09-23-2011, 05:20 AM
I was thinking that maybe Lucy has actually been a Templar the whole time, or maybe an ancestor of one?

Maybe she didn't really even get stabbed?
Altairs master 'killed' him while holding the apple. Turned out to be false.
So maybe it's the same with Desmond and Lucy?

LightRey
09-23-2011, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by AddictsCreed:
I was thinking that maybe Lucy has actually been a Templar the whole time, or maybe an ancestor of one?

Maybe she didn't really even get stabbed?
Altairs master 'killed' him while holding the apple. Turned out to be false.
So maybe it's the same with Desmond and Lucy?
I don't think she's a Templar, but the theory that she hasn't actually been stabbed and that it was an illusion would actually make some sense. There's some more theorizing on that particular theory in several other threads.
Also, welcome to the forums http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

AddictsCreed
09-23-2011, 05:50 AM
I think it makes sense too. I'm really looking forward to getting the answer. Hurry up November!

Thanks, looking forward to chatting with other AC addicts haha http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

sassinscreed
09-23-2011, 09:45 AM
what is strange in scene where desmond stabs lucy is that everyone except desmond are frozen in place not moving and just desmond moves and stabs lucy i just wander how did shaun or lucy see that scene if they were frozen in place

blazefp
09-23-2011, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by sassinscreed:
what is strange in scene where desmond stabs lucy is that everyone except desmond are frozen in place not moving and just desmond moves and stabs lucy i just wander how did shaun or lucy see that scene if they were frozen in place

Easy. They don't. If after that scene they could still see a last picture before fainting it would be Desmond's picture stabbing Lucy. Just like anything virtual, it just seems to be fluid because it shows you more than 16 pics per second (average human's eye catch).

Anyway this won't happen because it's just an illusion, an hallucination if you wanna call it this way, in Desmond's head.

LightRey
09-23-2011, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by blazefp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sassinscreed:
what is strange in scene where desmond stabs lucy is that everyone except desmond are frozen in place not moving and just desmond moves and stabs lucy i just wander how did shaun or lucy see that scene if they were frozen in place

Easy. They don't. If after that scene they could still see a last picture before fainting it would be Desmond's picture stabbing Lucy. Just like anything virtual, it just seems to be fluid because it shows you more than 16 pics per second (average human's eye catch).

Anyway this won't happen because it's just an illusion, an hallucination if you wanna call it this way, in Desmond's head. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You're right. Assuming they were in completely suspended animation, they would not have been able to see a thing of what happened.

JenC03
09-24-2011, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by AddictsCreed:
I was thinking that maybe Lucy has actually been a Templar the whole time, or maybe an ancestor of one?

I was thinking that! If you put eagle vision on in ACB there are red footprints outside the Auditore villa (when you're playing as Desmond) - I always thought it was Lucy's or that William guy (or whatever his name is) who Lucy e-mails to about Desmond's progress & stuff

LightRey
09-24-2011, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by JenC03:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AddictsCreed:
I was thinking that maybe Lucy has actually been a Templar the whole time, or maybe an ancestor of one?

I was thinking that! If you put eagle vision on in ACB there are red footprints outside the Auditore villa (when you're playing as Desmond) - I always thought it was Lucy's or that William guy (or whatever his name is) who Lucy e-mails to about Desmond's progress & stuff </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
no...
just, no...

Please, for the love of god, realize that that would just not work.

JenC03
09-24-2011, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
no...
just, no...

Please, for the love of god, realize that that would just not work.

It was a theory I always had when I was playing the game... then the ending came & I didn't know what to think http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
But seeing this thread reminded me of that & I do want to know who those footprints belonged to http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

blazefp
09-24-2011, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by JenC03:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
no...
just, no...

Please, for the love of god, realize that that would just not work.

It was a theory I always had when I was playing the game... then the ending came & I didn't know what to think http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
But seeing this thread reminded me of that & I do want to know who those footprints belonged to http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not really a big mystery, probably just Ezio's footprints after he got shot.

Th3spian777
09-24-2011, 09:23 AM
Well then how do they DIRECTLY to the well in front of the villa? Idk about you, but I didn't go stand on top of the well and drip blood on it then walk in that same path http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif nor did Ezio in any cutscenes, just saying, no one really knows, and it's frustrating http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

blazefp
09-24-2011, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by Emotionisdead:
Well then how do they DIRECTLY to the well in front of the villa? Idk about you, but I didn't go stand on top of the well and drip blood on it then walk in that same path http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif nor did Ezio in any cutscenes, just saying, no one really knows, and it's frustrating http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

that's why I used the word probably. No other theory fits better then this, though this doesn't fit quite well either

Altair661
09-24-2011, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JenC03:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AddictsCreed:
I was thinking that maybe Lucy has actually been a Templar the whole time, or maybe an ancestor of one?

I was thinking that! If you put eagle vision on in ACB there are red footprints outside the Auditore villa (when you're playing as Desmond) - I always thought it was Lucy's or that William guy (or whatever his name is) who Lucy e-mails to about Desmond's progress & stuff </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
no...
just, no...

Please, for the love of god, realize that that would just not work. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh Rey, you always seem to make me laugh in these forums. But seriously just drop the footprint thing. I think they're just trying to throw you off path to make you think she's a templar. You know, she could've just been stabbed...or killed, or the illusion thing.

JenC03
09-24-2011, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by blazefp:
Not really a big mystery, probably just Ezio's footprints after he got shot.
Other people in other forums also think it's Ezio but usually eagle vision + red = enemy
Plus I started another save file to view the Desmond scenes again & the footprints aren't there when Desmond & the gang set up base in the villa (which means it's created sometime later on).

Originally posted by Altair661:
But seriously just drop the footprint thing. I think they're just trying to throw you off path to make you think she's a templar. You know, she could've just been stabbed...or killed, or the illusion thing.
But back to the topic, I don't know what to think whether Lucy's alive or not - the illusion theory does sound good (I didn't even think of that, I just saw her get stabbed & thought 'Waaa don't show me credits, explain this ending to me!!!') but I guess I don't want her character to be dead ~ she's been there since AC1...

rileypoole1234
09-24-2011, 03:04 PM
I always thought that Lucy wasn't truly a Templar. But i'm having second thoughts. I sort of think of her now as more of an annoyance than a friend or even an enemy. I think that's why the apple controlled Desmond to kill Lucy. She simply wasn't needed and would slow Desmond down in his quest for Vaults and Temples.

LightRey
09-24-2011, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by JenC03:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blazefp:
Not really a big mystery, probably just Ezio's footprints after he got shot.
Other people in other forums also think it's Ezio but usually eagle vision + red = enemy
Plus I started another save file to view the Desmond scenes again & the footprints aren't there when Desmond & the gang set up base in the villa (which means it's created sometime later on).

Originally posted by Altair661:
But seriously just drop the footprint thing. I think they're just trying to throw you off path to make you think she's a templar. You know, she could've just been stabbed...or killed, or the illusion thing.
But back to the topic, I don't know what to think whether Lucy's alive or not - the illusion theory does sound good (I didn't even think of that, I just saw her get stabbed & thought 'Waaa don't show me credits, explain this ending to me!!!') but I guess I don't want her character to be dead ~ she's been there since AC1... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Anyone + Eagle Vision + red = any kind of clue.
Really, the only times red indicates an enemy is when directly looking at said enemy with eagle vision, else it varies from glyphs to any kind of random clue.

blazefp
09-24-2011, 03:45 PM
Blood is also red with eagle vision

JenC03
09-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
Anyone + Eagle Vision + red = any kind of clue.
Really, the only times red indicates an enemy is when directly looking at said enemy with eagle vision, else it varies from glyphs to any kind of random clue.

Originally posted by blazefp:
Blood is also red with eagle vision
Good points, good points http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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