View Full Version : Why you are allowed to overdo it with your weathering...

03-16-2008, 10:42 AM
Take a look at these Bf-109 G/Ks and Fw-190 D-9s:
Luftwaffe, 1945 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDDHvwpoQXo)

Some of them look like they're about to sink in the mud!

Does anyone know if Me-262s operated in similar conditions?

03-16-2008, 10:51 AM
Dead link http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

03-16-2008, 10:59 AM
Link works for me.

There is a story in Norbert Hannig's book about such condtions. They knew it would be extremely dangerous, but they had to go anyway. One FW-190 could not accelarely due to the water, and then hit an AAA emplacement. The pilot was still alive, but with engine starting to burn and all that live ammo around, he asked the others to shoot him. Hannig doesn't say whether his comrades shot the wounded pilot or not, but he mentions that when the plane started to burn heavily, there was no screaming from inside.

I believe Me-262's never operated from such conditions, only from paved runways.

03-16-2008, 11:25 AM
Nice vids!
I digged few more from there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

03-16-2008, 12:00 PM
me-262's engines i am sure couldn't take all that mud in and run whatsoever. There is also the problem that the me-262 took so long to pick up air speed that trying to take off in these conditions would be impossible..

03-16-2008, 03:29 PM
Thought the same...

Must have been really hard defending concrete runways too.

03-16-2008, 03:33 PM
After seeing the harsh enviroment some pilots had to handle there's no surprise about high accident pertentage of the Luftwaffe. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

03-16-2008, 04:11 PM
I'm guessing they probably purposefully chose bad days on some occasions, to avoid enemy fighters.

03-16-2008, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Metatron_123:
I'm guessing they probably purposefully chose bad days on some occasions, to avoid enemy fighters.
why not,a lot of other air forces did.
i knew they flew in bad weather,but that vid is an eye opener.

03-16-2008, 06:05 PM
Actually, it doesn't seem there's anything wrong with the weather, they're just trying to take off from a lake.

03-17-2008, 03:31 AM
...which is not a good idea without floats http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Look at the Fw-190 running onto a patch of water, nearly nosing over in front of the camera!

03-17-2008, 05:08 AM