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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 02:19 PM
Climb and any other high power regime in Bf-109 should be performed with autopitch on. Only cruise setting is selected using manual pitch.

Method of testing: start on Crimea map, summer, at 100m alt and go towards the sea. Drop the flaps and let the speed decrease to 250km/h and an altitude of 10-20m (above the sea) - I do this because I want the moment I start the climb RPM to be at max (especially in Bf-109, which is incredibly slow in gaining RPM when firewalled). Close radiators (short climb, 2000m), select 100% pitch for CS prop planes. Push the throttle to 110%, engage WEP if mounted (with the known procedure for Bf109), retract flaps carefully because you're just above the sea. The moment you reach 300km/h you should also reach max RPM. Start climbing by pointing the nose at 20-25degrees in funtion of powerloading. Settle for the known climb speed. Record the time until 1000m.

Here are some results:

model seconds
E4 55
F4 57
G2 45
G6 53
G6/AS 43
G10 49
G14 44
K4 41
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Yak1b 51
Yak3 44
La7 38

As you can see only E4, G2 and K4 deliver the performance expected.


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Message Edited on 09/21/0308:39AM by Huckebein_FW

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 02:19 PM
Climb and any other high power regime in Bf-109 should be performed with autopitch on. Only cruise setting is selected using manual pitch.

Method of testing: start on Crimea map, summer, at 100m alt and go towards the sea. Drop the flaps and let the speed decrease to 250km/h and an altitude of 10-20m (above the sea) - I do this because I want the moment I start the climb RPM to be at max (especially in Bf-109, which is incredibly slow in gaining RPM when firewalled). Close radiators (short climb, 2000m), select 100% pitch for CS prop planes. Push the throttle to 110%, engage WEP if mounted (with the known procedure for Bf109), retract flaps carefully because you're just above the sea. The moment you reach 300km/h you should also reach max RPM. Start climbing by pointing the nose at 20-25degrees in funtion of powerloading. Settle for the known climb speed. Record the time until 1000m.

Here are some results:

model seconds
E4 55
F4 57
G2 45
G6 53
G6/AS 43
G10 49
G14 44
K4 41
----------
Yak1b 51
Yak3 44
La7 38

As you can see only E4, G2 and K4 deliver the performance expected.


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Message Edited on 09/21/0308:39AM by Huckebein_FW

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 02:42 PM
I take it you recorded these, have emailed the reporting address in the 1.11 readme, and have tracks of the tests available on request?

Also, as a PS on the LA7 figure, there's this from Youss on VOW:

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Climb to 5,000m: 4.5 min. for LA7
Guys reporting 3:45

Youss responds
plz send trak to youss@tut.by - if real 3:45 by timer in track - will repair.
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Might want to give that a try.



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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 02:57 PM
Sure I recorded them.
Beta testing period expired, I thought I should post the errors here on the forum. If there is any other method for bug submittal I'm all ears.


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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:00 PM
Readme (Version 1.11).rtf



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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:03 PM
I know this.


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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:06 PM
You can still use il2beta@1c.ru for issues.

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:06 PM
I have from a reliable/serious source that the climb is 100% correct /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:07 PM
ianboys wrote:
- You can still use il2beta@1c.ru for issues.

Thanks Ian/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:11 PM
Ugly_Kid wrote:
- I have from a reliable/serious source that the climb
- is 100% correct/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I know the source/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 04:23 PM
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- As you can see only E4, G2 and K4 deliver the
- performance expected.
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-

By what standards? what charts did you use?

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 04:26 PM
"Bf-109 climb rates are incorrect"

Tell me about it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 04:27 PM
Ugly_Kid wrote:
- I have from a reliable/serious source that the climb
- is 100% correct /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
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