View Full Version : Can YOU take off on this co-op mission? (rnzoli's 102nd dedicated co-op)

03-25-2007, 07:22 PM
I was trying to play 102nd Coop Dedicated last night and couldn't get off the effin' ground.

Map: 10_ Special_Operations_1943_45

You can use the DSC <COMMANDS> key to change the map as well as choose the specific 06_LSO_Remagen mission, btw (created by JR "Big Daddy" Jacobs).

What I noticed is that the wind rapidly (I mean like across 1-2 seconds) changed heading and intensity (from 0 km/hr to 30 km/hr). Making it near impossible for lil' ol' me to take off. I even tried both sides (Tempests, Me-262s, etc.).

Can anyone offer any tips on how to take off in this high variable crosswind situation? (or does anyone dare to try it?) The mission brief looks like a fun one and the AI takes off straight and true (bastiges http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif )

* _54th_Speeder *

03-25-2007, 07:52 PM
Lock tail wheel as soon as possible. Get the engine on ASAP and then throttle up to 20% or so and hold hard counter rudder. With the throttle up you should have enough rudder authority to point the nose down the runway.

Throttle up slowly...hold the stick back so as to keep the tailwheel (thats locked) on the ground until you get up to about 120kph and then gently lift it off the ground maintaining appropriate levels of counter rudder.

That should do. You can take off in any weather condition in the game.

03-26-2007, 01:23 PM
I haven't flown that specific mission, but from the statistics, I can see some people are able to score some points on both sides, so I guess takeoff is possible.

I have sent an e-mail to the chief mission producer for the server, he usually designs or adapts missions for it (timewise and wrt host aircraft slot), and also tests them for playability and balance. Maybe he can remember this mission and how to deal with the wind. My experience from other snowstorm/thunderstorm missions is exactly what IceFire wrote - tailwheel lock and engine power.

03-26-2007, 01:49 PM
This mission is by 'JR Big Daddy' Jacobs.

It was a while ago when it was adapted but I have taken off and flown this a few times from the German perspective...
(the Stukas would be the easiest planes to take off in.)

Its a very difficult mission, terrible weather, intense AAA...very limited fuel, high mountains and zero visibility.

Icefires tips should do the trick.

I have 'differential' braking programed into my rudder pedals so I use limited left or right brakes to make emergency heading changes, try tapping the brakes (even at speed) whilst you apply rudder,it gives a lot of extra response, enough to counteract almost any crosswind.

In the Arado you have to apply a lot of power before the booster jets cut in (75%+ ish) which makes a lot of differance (stand on the brakes to 30-40% power to decrease your takeoff run).

Anyhow keep trying and good luck, I assure you its possible and JR Jacobs has created Ramagen bridge beutifully when you can finally get there !


03-27-2007, 12:30 AM
Thanks, guys! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

10:20pm, PST...
DSC MAP 11 (in spite of the fact the website says 10)
DSC MISSION 06 (Remagen)

Jumped in a Tempest, did the tailwheel lock, 20% power, light brake-work at lower speeds, cross aileron control to keep from digging my wingtip in, and on the fifth try, I got AIRBORNE!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Wheels up, flaps up, then followed the first flight around the mountain, through the rain, over the Remagen bridge and spotted the bombers! I called for my flight to attack the bombers, closed rads, and turned into the lead Stuka. Just as I lined up at about 10 degrees AOT, he inverted and went into his dive. I banked quickly, trying to follow, knowing my opportunity to get a shot off was going to be small when...

"Server administrator shutting down" appeared in the chat bar.


"Sorry, gotta go. Thanks for flying."

"WHY???? It took me 20 times to get airborne and I was just about to engage!"

"Because http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif...It's my work computer."

"ok" <sighs deeply, feeling like Charlie Brown just trying to kick the football ONCE>

* _54th_Speeder http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif *

P.S. And then, to add self inflicted insult to self inflicted injury, I tossed my controllers back down on the floor next to my computer and...they hit the master power switch on the surge protector and took everything down. On reboot, things got locked up again and had to do a cold boot http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif. I think I am destined NOT to fly this mission.

03-27-2007, 12:50 AM
Is this mission downloadable from anywhere?

03-27-2007, 02:50 AM
Speeder, really sad to hear it, my suggestion is to try this mission on Friday or Saturday night your time. The server operator, cmirko, indeed has to shut down the server at every morning his local time, and starts it up again in the afternoon during weekdays. On weekends, it goes 24 hours a day. There is also a lot of effort nowadays to make this server continuously working, which would improve its accesibility to friends in US West and Australian time zones.

03-27-2007, 04:33 AM
as rnzoli allready said, sry m8, but my workday starts at 07:30 CET and lasts until 15:00CET - during that time i need the computer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif to work on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif you know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

soon, if all goes well, 102nd_COOP_ded will be on a totally dedicated machine so it will run 24/7/365 permitting electricity is on and inet access is working http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


03-30-2007, 04:18 AM
DSC MAP 11 (in spite of the fact the website says 10)

Mis-alignment corrected on the web. The mission briefs to the new 10_ Anzio_1944 map (Italy) were added.

The full list of maps, missions and their briefings (including some recon photos and historic references) are available here:

edit: don't miss the weekend to try a few of them out, everything between 1939-1950 is covered http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

03-30-2007, 04:51 AM
Many thanks to you, cmirko, and your team of map makers. The Fallen Angels have flown the 102nd Coop_ded several times, and we are very impressed with everything about it. Well done my friends! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif