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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 03:21 PM
Can anyone direct me to web site's that have good training for IL-2's, or other aircraft on how to properly set-up your squadron for aerial ground attacks and survival tactics.....


Thank You

Falcon

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 03:21 PM
Can anyone direct me to web site's that have good training for IL-2's, or other aircraft on how to properly set-up your squadron for aerial ground attacks and survival tactics.....


Thank You

Falcon

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 05:00 PM
If you are flying as part of a team, either human or AI, teamwork can substantially improve your chances of destroying ground targets and escaping successfully. If you are flying offline, be ruthless in using your AI wingmen: war is a tough business, after all. Order your AI planes to attack your target, and follow them in once the flak has locked onto them, giving you a clearer run. A common tactic was to send in flights to suppress Anti Aircraft Artillery before the main target was attacked - this is an ideal job for your accurate, nerveless, but unimaginative AI pilots. Specify AAA as their ground target while you stand off and observe results. If time, fuel and enemy fighter activity permits, keep repeating the order until the flak is subdued, making the attack on the main target by yourself and any remaining wingmen more survivable.
You may choose to fly over the target area to pick out your targets - for instance, to distinguish armoured from soft skinned vehicles. You can then use your high powered loadout (rockets and bombs) on the tougher targets, leaving soft skinned vehicles to be mopped up by machine gun or cannon fire. The weakness of this method is that AA will be alert and waiting when you re-approach your target for your attack proper. "I became involved in a sharp argument with the Wing Leader, Wing Commander Dring, over my practise of making a pass at low level before firing in order to pick out the tanks from the 'soft- skinned' vehicles. Dring had concluded that this gave the accurate Flak a double chance to shoot the aircraft down and was therefore undesirable, but I considered it to be essential." (Raymond Lallemant, quoted in Shores, p.156)
If flak is strong, there is a strong case for making hard and accurate attack and then departing immediately. If you adopt this prudent attitude, a simultaneous attack maximises your survival chances. It makes sense to bring the maximum ordnance to bear in the first pass, by having all planes in your flight attack simultaneously. A line abreast formation is ideal for this technique, which suits a widely distributed target such as an airfield. Another variation on simultaneous attack was the 'converging attack' of torpedo bombers, designed to trap an enemy ship in a converging circle of torpedoes and thus defeat its evading manoeuvres.
Sequential attack is in some circumstances your best bet. A transport column lends itself to a sequential attack by planes in a line astern formation. But perhaps the most famous variation of sequential attack is the carousel or Circle of death used by the Il 2. The AI in Il 2 will sometime use this technique, so if you are following an AI flight leader watch out for your flight moving into line astern formation. Then simply follow the plane ahead of you. As each plane approaches the target it puts its nose down into dive of perhaps 45 degrees, and attacks with whatever weapons are available: rockets, bombs or guns. The plane then climbs back into the circle. This attack is typically maintained until ammunition is exhausted. The carousel is designed to keep the enemy under continuous attack (though the advantage of this in terms of shattering morale and suppressing enemy movement and effectiveness is less meaningful against AI targets). It does however have some use in dividing flak, as flak is forced to choose between three targets: one running up to the dive, one diving, and one climbing in its exit.

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 02:45 AM
Thanks for the great insight.....good ideas

Falcon

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 03:34 AM
One more thing.......if you are flying offline and you are leading the squad in order the first & second flights to hold back while you send in flights 3 & 4 to attrack the flak like Mike said. Come in line abreast at first that way flights 3 & 4 can go past you to get to the flak and the flak gunners will have to spread their fire out more. They can only shoot in one direction at a time.

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Message Edited on 07/02/0310:34PM by Bearcat99

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 01:10 PM
Thanks Bearcat99. Great insight in Aircraft Ground Tactics.

I know you love the P-51 Mustang...Is your name "Bearcat" comes from the Grumman's F8F Bearcat?? Excellent Navy Fighter, but came very late in the war.

Later

SKULLS Falcon



Message Edited on 07/03/0307:13AM by SKULLS_Falcon

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 11:57 PM
Oh, and one more thing - remember to pull up in time. 'Target fixation', where you become so concentrated on your target that you keep flying right into it, is a maddening way to die, but all too common!