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walsh2509
02-26-2007, 08:17 PM
Q? On US DD In GWX 1.02


I'll admit I'm not up on my history as of US navy ops 1940, but were there US navy DD's patrolling the english south coast 11th July 1940?


I lost a 1,000 renown poinst on my way back to WH, off the south west coast of england (plymouth) nearest port, I picked up a contact and looking from a long distance I locked on to a Hospital Ship (a no go) but with her was a Troop Ship.

So going down to PScope depth I plotted her course and lay in wait, just after I had set up the shot my sonar picked up a warship closing (escort in to the english channel). I thought nothing of it and let the troop ship have one.

I sat as the minutes ticked by and the DD closed in, boom hit! with my scope up to see the result I was picked up by the DD. But she, lucky for me was on my 180 and heading straight at me at 0. I waiting until it was close enough , fired the torp and crashed from pscope depth to the deep.

On my way down I hear the explosion and headed back up. Up scope and there was the DD sitting low taking on water. And then I seen it , it was a US DD.

I made my way to the floundering Troop Ship , again like the DD sitting low taking on water as the Hospital ship sailed east toward the english channel. As I came along side , again what did I see , yes it was a US troop ship.

Now with merchants I always check before firing, but as it was a Troop Ship heading into the south west coast of england (11th july 1940) I didn't think it would have been anything else than an english one.

lost near 1,000 points for that, lesson learned.

But were US DD providing escort into the south of England for US Troop ships 11th July 1940?

thanks ...

walsh2509
02-26-2007, 08:17 PM
Q? On US DD In GWX 1.02


I'll admit I'm not up on my history as of US navy ops 1940, but were there US navy DD's patrolling the english south coast 11th July 1940?


I lost a 1,000 renown poinst on my way back to WH, off the south west coast of england (plymouth) nearest port, I picked up a contact and looking from a long distance I locked on to a Hospital Ship (a no go) but with her was a Troop Ship.

So going down to PScope depth I plotted her course and lay in wait, just after I had set up the shot my sonar picked up a warship closing (escort in to the english channel). I thought nothing of it and let the troop ship have one.

I sat as the minutes ticked by and the DD closed in, boom hit! with my scope up to see the result I was picked up by the DD. But she, lucky for me was on my 180 and heading straight at me at 0. I waiting until it was close enough , fired the torp and crashed from pscope depth to the deep.

On my way down I hear the explosion and headed back up. Up scope and there was the DD sitting low taking on water. And then I seen it , it was a US DD.

I made my way to the floundering Troop Ship , again like the DD sitting low taking on water as the Hospital ship sailed east toward the english channel. As I came along side , again what did I see , yes it was a US troop ship.

Now with merchants I always check before firing, but as it was a Troop Ship heading into the south west coast of england (11th july 1940) I didn't think it would have been anything else than an english one.

lost near 1,000 points for that, lesson learned.

But were US DD providing escort into the south of England for US Troop ships 11th July 1940?

thanks ...

ottoramsaig
02-27-2007, 05:50 AM
I just finnished the same engagement. I didn't notice if I lost renown for it. I am at a loss also about the time line. Why would the US be sending DD's and Troop ships if the US was neutral prior to Dec 41?

Busbie
02-27-2007, 05:54 AM
The United States neutrality in early WWII was questionable at best. Historically US DDs were providing escort for British and US ships to England throughout the war, and even attacked U-Boats before war was officially declared.

klcarroll
02-27-2007, 06:43 AM
Yeah, ......That was a big point of contention: "Neutral" U.S. destroyers accompanying largely British convoys on the very thin pretense that they were there to watch over the "neutral" U.S. shipping that happened to be in the convoy.

It seemed that the "neutrality" of these DDs didn't stop the occasional depth charge from rolling off their fantails; ......just as the "neutral" armed U.S. merchantmen would happily fire on a U-Boat if a torpedo passed within 5 km of them. The whole "Fire Only If Fired Upon" thing was applied in the loosest possible way.

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GoldenEagle8
02-27-2007, 04:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
armed U.S. merchantmen would happily fire on a U-Boat if a torpedo passed within 5 km of them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can see it now! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
"CAPTAIN! U-BOAT SPOTTED!"
"where?"
"way out there, see?"
"no"
"over there, see? It's that little spec way out there."
"over there?"
"no, over there"
"oh, yup, thats a u-boat. OPEN FIRE!"