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shiffty_05
07-02-2005, 08:30 AM
hi i have finally given up. i am selling that bloody logitech extreme 3d pro and hope to buy something that will last a long time and actually work!!. I was wondering if anyone can tell me wat good joys stick are cheap and last long and work because i am sick of not being abel to play because the bloody thing wont pitch up or roll right.
Thanx

Bearcat99
07-02-2005, 08:37 AM
First off there is no such thing... a cheap joystick wont last long... what you want is an inexpensive one... try here (http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html).

LStarosta
07-02-2005, 08:58 AM
Saitek Cyborg Evo is a good schtick. Only about $40 dollars or so.

Dew-Claw
07-02-2005, 09:59 AM
I just use an MS Sidewinder I bought at a garage sale for $2.00
I've used it for years with never a problem.

I burned thru 3 Thrusmasters at over $100 apiece before I figured out some times more expensive doesn't always mean better quality.

F0_Dark_P
07-02-2005, 10:19 AM
i have had a lot of sticks, but the best one is my Logitech Freedom 2.4

eats batterys it dose but the quality is superb

the best stick with throttle and twist no doubt

Tvrdi
07-02-2005, 10:29 AM
Shiffty---best buy is Thrustmaster Top Gun Fox2 pro USB...

ratings:

http://www.joystickreview.com/joystick/

look here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005V95E/kel.../202-7120916-4048610 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005V95E/kelkoo-2004-games-21/ref%3Dnosim/202-7120916-4048610)

its most comfortable joystick ever produced....
(you can download utility/button configuration soft from Thrustmaster site)


http://www.portcom.ru/image/catalog/per/35.jpg

Oilburner_TAW
07-02-2005, 10:44 AM
Go to best buy and buy logitech of your choice and then pay the 5 or 6 bucks for the 2yr replacement warranty. That's what I did and i'm on my 4th trade in.

Slechtvalk
07-02-2005, 10:47 AM
I hate that stick (top gun fox2).
Better buy the Saitek St290 Pro, about 20 dollars/euro's, almost same as evo but without lights and the evo got 3 more buttons or so.

Taylortony
07-02-2005, 11:47 AM
some places still stock the X45 set up quite cheaply, have seen new ones on ebay going cheap as well

msalama
07-02-2005, 11:53 AM
Ahem... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif well... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

My setup consists of 2 - yes, TWO - 2-axis joysticks at the moment! One is an old Gravis & the other one is a tiny no-name German jobbie from the 80's. I bought them for a grand total of 1e from the local flea-market when my piece of s**te Logitech broke down a while ago...

Now _please_ let me explain before calling an ambulance: The Gravis controls ailerons, elevator and weaponry, and the no-name piece controls rudder only, and I've found that the setup really _does_ work & even feels pretty comfortable to me now. It _did_ take some getting used to 1st, but now I fly around as well as I did before w/ a twist stick (if not better).

Now of course there're situations where I can't use the rudder at all because my left hand is doing something w/ the keyboard (everything else is there, only guns and control surfaces are operated w/ the sticks as I said), but this doesn't really matter because I usually plan & act ahead anyway so that my plane WILL be (roughly) configured beforehand for whatever situation I'm getting into (takeoff, combat, approach, landing etc). So that's _not_ as bad a problem as it may sound.

Honestly!

But what's the moral of the story? Well, 1st off you CAN do it w/ a cr*ppy setup too. It does take some creativity & adaptability to do it, but it _is_ doable nevertheless. And 2ndly, I honestly think that this house-of-horrors setup actually IS better than the LogiTech I used previously w/ its signal spikes and all that c**p - which tells a lot of the manufacturer and their wares too IMO... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PS / EDIT: I might chop that German jobbie up for a rudder rocker someday, though... If I can be a**ed that is...

Endrju
07-02-2005, 04:14 PM
I use Chinese Media-tech Windstorm pro for about 25$. I use it over a year and I can't say anything bad about this stick. It has 3 axes, throttle, six buttons and hat (also vibration which I don't use). Very good choice and quite cheap comparing to world-wide brands.

PBNA-Boosher
07-02-2005, 07:38 PM
My Sidewinder Precision 2 has lasted more than 5 years.

ImpStarDuece
07-02-2005, 08:22 PM
You have some conflicting requirements there; Good, cheap and long-lasting.

Generally, you can pick two.

So you can have a good, cheap stick that will wear out on you. A good, long lasting stick that will be expensive or a cheap., long lasting stick that wont be any good.

Smart money is to buy a MSFFB or MS Precision Sidewinder from Ebay or another internet auction house. You can usually pick them up for a reasonable price.

Personally, as a flight sim nut I am looking at going to a CH Products set up; HOTAS and ruddedr pedals. I'm just savig up the money now.

han freak solo
07-02-2005, 08:32 PM
I bought my Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 in an opened box at Best Buy in 2001. Still works like the day I got it.

I haven't seen it on store shelves in the USA in a long time, though. Maybe, you can still get it here.... http://www.microsoft.com/uk/retail/product_screens/game...sidewinder_p2joy.htm (http://www.microsoft.com/uk/retail/product_screens/gamesdev/sidewinder_p2joy.htm)

Tully__
07-02-2005, 11:54 PM
In new sticks, the best value for money on a tight budget is currently the Fox 2 Pro from Thrustmaster or the Cyborg Evo from Saitek.

Bearcat's link to reconditioned Saiteks is also worth a look, much cheaper than new and not cosmetically perfect, but functionally equivalent to factory fresh.

Enforcer572005
07-03-2005, 12:05 AM
i promote any CH control stick....ive had this f16 combat stick for years now, and with the rudder pedals, it works great. i use the throttle on the base. i had this thing refurbished once at ch for very cheap. it works great, and they are affordable. if you getr the pro throttle, you can program all of its buttons and the ones on the stick.

tjaika1910
07-03-2005, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Endrju:
I use Chinese Media-tech Windstorm pro for about 25$. I use it over a year and I can't say anything bad about this stick. It has 3 axes, throttle, six buttons and hat (also vibration which I don't use). Very good choice and quite cheap comparing to world-wide brands.

I have this one too. Wouldnt say it is a joystick to last long, but I got mine replaced on the warranty. The new one quickly was unusable on z-aksis. No problem, use pedals instead. Roll is bad, but with a little less sensitive settings and filtering it is something I am getting used to. I know several that bought this one, I am the only one still using it I think. Not to recommend, but it is cheap. 7 $ a piece in 1000 stock. Paid around 20 " for mine.

I was planning though to exchange the pots with something quality. The weight and grip is good, and I am using pedals anyway. My postulate is that it is far better to have a krappy joystick with pedals the a good one without.

AerialTarget
07-21-2005, 10:28 PM
I just mailed my CH Products joystick in for repair or replacement, and am looking for a very cheap (below twenty dollars) joystick that works similarly. I do not need it to last more than a month or to be as precise, but I do need it to feel roughly the same. I don't mean ergonomics, I mean spring forces and dead zone. I do not feel like learning a completely different joystick for a month or so, then relearning my real joystick again. My real joystick is a ten button joystick with a throttle wheel and no twist. Are there any suggestions?

VF-29_Sandman
07-22-2005, 03:55 PM
the ms sticks were probably THE best 'cheap' sticks ever made. unfortunately, ms got out of the joystick business. pity they did, i had a ms2 stick that lasted 5 yrs before it died, and nowadays, that's almost unheard of.

i have the evo and it's a good feeling stick, easy to program, and runs roughly about the same price as the ms2 sidewinder did back then..about 40 bucks. in this game tho, u need just a tad more programming room than what the evo offers. i just got the x-52, and compared to the x-45, it's a dream. its a twist stick like the evo, but i find the throttle section of the x-52 much more comfortable than the huge x-45's.
my wingman has been praisin the x-52, and after doin some qmb's, i can see why he likes this stick. cheap isnt always better brah. get the x-52, and u'll never need to buy another stick. well worth the money. if u have to keep buying 1 logitech after another, soon u'll burn up what u would have spent on the x-52 and then some.

Bearcat99
07-22-2005, 06:05 PM
X-52 isnt bad either.. but if you are going to get pedals then save the $$$ and get that refurbed X-45 and pedals..... You can try here (http://www.shopping.com/xGS-saitek_x_52~NS-1~linkin_id-3070080) for an X-52.... hit the X-45 link above that I gave you.. and jus6 peek here (http://www.provantage.com/buy-110CHPU-ch-shopping.htm) for a look at the pedals' price. For a little more than the price of an X-52 you can get an X-45 and pedals.

Tully__
07-23-2005, 04:54 AM
Approximately in order of price, cheapest to most expensive (prices vary from country to country) and not including any force feedback sticks:

Saitek Cyborg Evo
Thrusmaster Fox 2 Pro
Thrustmaster Topgun Afterburner II
Saitek X-45
Saitek X-52
CH Fighterstick + CH Pro Throttle USB + CH Pro Pedals USB
Thrustmaster Cougar

ytareh
07-23-2005, 02:03 PM
So in this thread alone two people say they have had to return CH sticks for service(re-'potting' I presume)Now it would cost me a fortune to post one of these from Ireland to factory.Are there any REALLY 100% reliable sticks or is it like any product in that you pay your money and take your chances/choice.Ive said it before and I'll say it again ,yes the Logitech Extreme 3d pros do have 60-80% pot failure rates in the first 6-12 months(???)but most shops should replace them free of charge (or worse case with a cheap extended warranty).My current ('only' second in over a year)is going strong .Anyone else have a long serving Log x3d pro?I really hated the Saitek Cyborg Evo Platinum I had for a month(it broke too)So is the Thrustmaster Cougar the one to aspire to so>?

VF-29_Sandman
07-23-2005, 04:38 PM
get the x-52. the 1st run batches did have its problems, but now the current runs are excellent. this stick is very sweet.

Drisc
07-23-2005, 07:06 PM
Hi!

I bought a CH Gamestick back in 1997. I have used it ever since. It has NEVER let me down. Originally when I bought it, it cost $20. It came wih a copy of Warbirds 2.0!

But yes, I have also kicked around the idea of upgrading to a seitek set up as well.

AerialTarget
07-23-2005, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by ytareh:
So in this thread alone two people say they have had to return CH sticks for service(re-'potting' I presume)Now it would cost me a fortune to post one of these from Ireland to factory.Are there any REALLY 100% reliable sticks or is it like any product in that you pay your money and take your chances/choice.

Ytareh, I have had a CH Combat Stick and CH Pro Pedals, both USB, for many years now. Every year, without fail, I have to send in one of them in to CH Products, and after a period of time ranging from two weeks to several months they will send me a new one. I do recommend them, but if it costs you more than twenty dollars to ship them, you may want to reconsider.