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Chuck_Older
06-15-2005, 04:17 PM
I know i probably should...but I have never ever succesfully defragged any HD since about 1998

On this PC, I did a re-install of my OS last year, and before that I tried a de-frag...13 hours later it was about 50% done (2.08GHz, 768 RAM, Win XP SP1, blah blah). I have since tried a de-frag (120 GB HD) and about 6 hours later, it was 25% done...same story as before. On my PC before this, I couldn't defrag because the PC would re-start halfway through all the time

So I have about 26 hours of defrag, then 5 hours of 4.01m download time?! I don't think so

Are there ways to speed up a defrag?

rssmps
06-15-2005, 04:25 PM
1) remove unused programs... (ones that you didn't even know existed on your computer)
2) burn unused data/files to cd
3) PARTITION!!!! split your one drive into data / program / game / any other division to suit your taste. This way, you will only need to defrag partitions that get fragmented

Chuck_Older
06-15-2005, 04:32 PM
I run several spyware removers once a week

I'm not about to partition the drive. If one section needs a defrag, they all do. I understand what you're saying, but that's a lot like a band-aid fix, which is not the path I like to take

crazyivan1970
06-15-2005, 04:36 PM
Download Diskeeper9 trial. Runs much faster then windows based version...

FoolTrottel
06-15-2005, 04:37 PM
Hi,

Faster defrag?

- Close all programs
- Clear out all yer temp files: Via Internet Explorer, Options, Delete (..) Clear (...) and via Start, Run, %temp%, delete all files there.
- Empty recycle bin

You can allways stop defrag, and start it later, when you want to use the PC for something other than defrag.

Good Luck!

fabianfred
06-15-2005, 04:40 PM
you've just got to let it run ... then do it at least once a week
the more often you do it... the less time it takes

-HH- Beebop
06-15-2005, 04:48 PM
I have Diskeeper9 and swear by it. I can defrag my nearly half full 250GB HD in under 1/2 hour. It's MUCH faster than the windows default defrag which sometimes took 3-4 hours to do the job.

Check it out:

http://www.executive.com/coverpage.asp

The home version is only $20. A good investment IMO. Highly recommended.

NonWonderDog
06-15-2005, 05:58 PM
If you don't use any special program make sure to close your antivirus program before you defrag. AV programs especially are constantly writing and deleting temp files, and when they do, they cause defrag to start over completely. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

zjulik
06-15-2005, 07:11 PM
As NonWonderDog says, there are issues with defrag and antivirus. Mostly with older Windows OSes and the built-in defragger.
Diskkeeper has been mentioned her, and it is very good. Equally good in the sense that, as Diskkeeper it is faster and does more, is PerfectDisk from http://www.raxco.com/products/perfectdisk2k/ .

Tip: Before you start, clean out garbage as FoolTrottel says. A really good (and free!) program for this is CCleaner from http://www.ccleaner.com/ . If you haven`t done any cleaning for some time, you will be truly amazed of what CCleaner or the likes will find.

voyager_663rd
06-15-2005, 07:51 PM
also, try starting your machine in safe mode. THEN run your defrag. guaranteed that nothing else is running when you do that.

Achilles_NZ
06-15-2005, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by -HH- Beebop:
I have Diskeeper9 and swear by it. I can defrag my nearly half full 250GB HD in under 1/2 hour. It's MUCH faster than the windows default defrag which sometimes took 3-4 hours to do the job.

Check it out:

http://www.executive.com/coverpage.asp

The home version is only $20. A good investment IMO. Highly recommended.

The only way I found to get around the lengthy defrag times is to leave the system running overnight, which I don't like to do all that often.
Cheers for the tip and link Beebop, will definitely check this out. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Slick750
06-15-2005, 09:02 PM
I use a 10 gigs partition just for windows, everything else is on other partitions...defrag takes around 5 minutes, the only drive that gets fragmented is the C: drive (the Windows drive) Might wanna try this next time your reinstall yours OS.

wayno7777
06-15-2005, 09:33 PM
Chuck, if you have End It All, it will close most programs. Then you can defrag. I know what you mean. What the others have said about Diskeeper 9 I agree with. I tried and like it. My trial ran out and I don't have the extra funds to buy it yet. Still looking for all it's files to delete so I can try it again. In the meantime I use a little prog called defrag-to-shutdown. The original site is long gone, but google it and you should be able to find it. There three ways to defrag with it. 1. defrag files only 2. defrag free space only 3. full defrag.

The most important thing is to shut down as many of the background progs as possible. What's happening is it's continually restarting itself. And if all else fails, restart in safe mode and then defrag. That should work....

TacticalYak3
06-15-2005, 09:39 PM
Good advice.

I have 6 partitions for my 1 HD, plus I use a free program called Power Defragmenter.

Happy defraging. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Sonatine13
06-16-2005, 02:45 AM
The defrag process creates lot of temporary files, and if you dont have enough free space on your HD that will slow down the process alot.
Just a hint.

zjulik
06-16-2005, 03:40 AM
A good and I would almost say essential utility is PageDefrag which is free, tiny and defrags your registry and pagefile on (every if you want) boot. Used it for years:
http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/PageDefrag.html

Chuck_Older
06-16-2005, 09:54 AM
Thanks all

I d/l'd Diskeeper9 and the PageFile defrag here at work. This PC is kinda old and always slow. It was 28% fragmented, and was taking 2.8 times the time it should to do anything. It's like a new PC now, I'm stunned

Took about 8 minutes to defrag that horribly fragmnented 20 GB HD

I am sold on this stuff for sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifWhere can I buy diskeeper9, by the way? I prefer to walk into stores and use (horrors) cash