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SnapdLikeAMutha
03-11-2005, 05:02 PM
...is the artificial horizon.

Because it shows the horizon itself (ie the boundary between the blue stuff and the brown stuff

But it doesn't show which is the land

and which is the sky

I have about 13 plane losses on my pilot career, and about 12 of those are from flying into the ground in ****ty weather because I couldn't see if I was coming or going.

Such a simple thing too, paint one bit blue, one bit brown and you have no problem....

SnapdLikeAMutha
03-11-2005, 05:02 PM
...is the artificial horizon.

Because it shows the horizon itself (ie the boundary between the blue stuff and the brown stuff

But it doesn't show which is the land

and which is the sky

I have about 13 plane losses on my pilot career, and about 12 of those are from flying into the ground in ****ty weather because I couldn't see if I was coming or going.

Such a simple thing too, paint one bit blue, one bit brown and you have no problem....

MEGILE
03-11-2005, 05:05 PM
Spit in the cockpit and see if it hits the roof or the floor.

SnapdLikeAMutha
03-11-2005, 05:38 PM
That is a negative on the spitting, all the nervous energy makes my throat dry and the Bf109 does not have cup holders...

TooMuchCheese
03-11-2005, 05:59 PM
Take your todger out and check which way it rolls...will give a very close impression of vertical velocity.
Up until this point this post was looking good...lol.

SnapdLikeAMutha
03-11-2005, 06:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TooMuchCheese:
Take your todger out and check which way it rolls...will give a very close impression of vertical velocity.
Up until this point this post was looking good...lol. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Naaa man, see that is not going to work either...when I do positive G turns all of the blood rushes to the lower half of my body and I get 'Zoom-Climb Glory'...

robban75
03-11-2005, 06:11 PM
The Artificial Horizon isn't needed really during IFR flight, but it does make IFR ALOT more comfortable. Let's say you lose the AH. You know have 5 more instruments to tell how you are moving through the air.

1. Altimiter. If it's moving clockwise, you are climbing, if it's moving counter clockwise your descending.

http://www.flybernhard.de/altimet.jpg

2. VSI, vertical Speed Indicator, also very usefull when you need to know whether you are accending or descending.

http://www.flybernhard.de/vertical_s.jpg

3. ASI, Air Speed Indicator, if the airspeed is decreasing, you are accending, if it's increasing you are descending.

http://www.flybernhard.de/airspeed.jpg

4. HI, Heading Indicator, and even the Magnetic Compass, if it's spinning, you are turning.

http://www.flybernhard.de/heading1.jpg

5. Turn and slip indicator(on modern planes), can function as a semi Artificial Horizon. If the wings are level on the instrument, you really fly wings level .

http://www.flybernhard.de/turn_co.jpg


If you can use all these instruments in conjunction with eachother, when all of them aren't moving, you are flying straight and level. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

SnapdLikeAMutha
03-11-2005, 06:32 PM
That's far too complicated for me. Why don't they have a warning light/beeper?

'You're going to die, moron!' or something would be helpful

It's only a problem because I do a lot of + G manouveres and spend half my time in a haze...I actually did a mission the other day where I did like an inverted-Immelman followed by a high-speed loop, I think I put my pilot in a coma or something because it was just unthwartably blacked-out. I actually stuck it on auto-pilot because there were no more bandits, went upstairs to make a coffee, came back, the thing had landed...still blacked out. Left it for about ten minutes...STILL blacked out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

LEXX_Luthor
03-11-2005, 07:06 PM
Can a player recover from Blackout when autopilot is On? I never thought to test this.

msalama
03-11-2005, 07:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>when all of them aren't moving, you are flying straight and level. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

...or dead. But then again, you can't really tell in that case can ya?

Other than that, correct http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Lemky
03-11-2005, 08:03 PM
Watch your air speed,increace in air speed shows your nose is down,a slowing of airspeed shows you are climbing

TooMuchCheese
03-11-2005, 08:53 PM
Guys... please....
what is all this science stuff???
As I said, if one puts faith in ones todger, one will easily cope with the trauma of dealing with alll these dastardly dudes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MaxMhz
03-11-2005, 09:08 PM
It's not science - if it saves your live it's essential knowledge http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

I don't get it though - why all the american dials when you have a FW190 in your sig lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Skycat_2
03-11-2005, 10:10 PM
You're probably only confused whether you're upside down or downside up when you're in a fog bank or cloud or something ... I speculate that in real life gravity and blood rushing to your head would help you know you are upside down.

How do you feel about turning off the cockpit view and using those instruments in an emergency?

Fehler
03-11-2005, 10:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by robban75:

3. ASI, Air Speed Indicator, if the airspeed is decreasing, you are accending, if it's increasing you are descending. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unless you are in a Spit.. then it increases whether you are ascending OR descending. LOL