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Mylo42
04-27-2005, 10:40 PM
Well.......I did it.

I've finally completed it....my 1/6 (about) scale type VII sub. Well, it really doesn't look much like a sub, or perform like a sub, but I think it's cool and it takes the emmersive factor to the extreme...hee hee. My wife thinks I'm an awesome dad for building the kids such a cool "playground" toy when in actual fact, it is MY vessel and the kids are simply my crew. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif The sub is situated in "dry dock" in the yard on the acreage.

I have connections in the construction industry and so bartered for a 30' and 8' piece of culvert that has a 8' diameter. The 30' piece is, you guessed it, the hull while the 8 footer is the conning tower. With a little fancy welding (and the use of a buddy's picker truck), the conning tower was attached and platform made for the upper deck.

I welded up a ladder and ran it up the conning tower, then up to the upper deck (just like the real thing). Some discs off an old disker (farm machinery) with handles and hinges welded on make up the hatches. A 20mm AA gun was built out of pipe and "stuff" (non functional of course.....too bad) as well as a deck gun out of 5" diameter pipe and "stuff" (again, non functional..again..too bad). An old pair of binoculars were permanently mounted on a swivel and make a decent UZO for surface targeting.

The engine room consists of a Honda generator which serves as the sub's diesel engines. (as well as electric power supply for the lighting). The throttle linkage was routed throughout the sub so that the "engine" can be throttled up or down from the helm. The ignition switch was routed in the same manner for remote starting and shutting off from the helm. Fuel and temp guages are also routed to the helm. The exhaust is vented outside and the engine provides the noise "effect" and juice to power the lighting. A 3 hp electric motor fits in behind the Honda and serves as the electric motor for submerged propulsion. This motor runs off an 8D Cat battery that gets its charge from the Honda generator (in essence, like the real thing). The electric motor will run for about 3 hours on a charge. The electric motor's only function is to make "electric motor" noise. Only the captain (me) has the key to fire up the engines.

Aft crew quarters consists of 2 bunk beds. Fore crew quarters consists of another 2 bunk beds. The sub sleeps 8 kids.

The helm, along with the mentioned controls for the "diesels" and electric motors, has stations for a navigator, chief engineer (he does all the driving from a simulated helm which includes valves to flood the tanks.), WO, and Cpt. The sub is completely wired with lights throughout. A red light and blue light are controlled from the Cpts. station. Communications are handled via a wired intercom system. The observation periscope is made from a 6" diameter pipe and runs from the helm, up through the conning tower, and up. The "periscope" effect was accomplished by installing mirrors at both ends. An attack periscope was also installed in the conning tower. The periscopes are not retractable and have no magnification. The fore torpedo room (there is no aft...it's a modified VII). has 4 tubes made of 12" pipe that are 6' in length. There is storage on board for 10 torpedos made out of PVC plastic pipe. The "crew" pushes the torps out of the tubes by using a stick through a hole in the tube doors. Range on these torps is limited to about 6' so you have to get close.

The radio station is equipped with a wireless telecom as well as AM/FM. BdU (Mom) is able to communicate to the sub from HQ (house) via the intercom, usually to advise that the patrol is over and to return to port. The sonar station has a rotatable dial which is wired into a separate stereo CD player in which the Cpt can control what is being heard by playing propeller noises at various volumes. Cpt!! Contact bearing 320.

In the special effects category, the sub is wired with speakers that play a variety of "sub" noises that are burnt onto a CD and are controlled from the Cpts. chair. Outside on deck, wind and wave noises abound, along with the running of the Honda motor. The entire sub is "plumbed" with 1" pipe that has sprinklers at various places (the garden hose has to be attached to the outside valve of the sub for this effect to work.) The capt can "cause flooding" damage to the sub upon his whim, to the delight, oddly enough, of the crew. Coincidently enough, the captain's station is not effected by the flooding. This effect, coupled with the "wasser-bomb" BOOMS!! from the audio always creates a panick inside the sub.

I have enjoyed building my sub and it really didn't cost much since I had most of the expensive stuff lying around anyway (The Honda generator is easily removable). The crew love it when they can invite their friends over for a patrol and have even spent "time at sea" by sleeping overnight in the crew's quarters. They really get into it and take their jobs seriously.

Now if I could just get a few computers hooked up to a LAN inside the sub at the various stations with SHIII running, I would have to get a few of my buddies over and take 'er for a patrol.

Oh....and by the way....I know I need psycological help...I know I'm nuts and yes, maybe I did take the "emmersive factor" a little far.....but hey...you're only a kid once.
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snowdawg1
04-27-2005, 10:55 PM
Any Photos ???

Mylo42
04-27-2005, 11:02 PM
Photos are in the works. I haven't stepped into the 21 century yet and so don't have a digi cam. Going it "old school."

...by the way, how do I get photos onto the forum ?

Jex_TG
04-28-2005, 05:50 AM
you can scan a photo in (or take it to a shop to do for you). Hosting is relatively simple - google for "free picture hosting", or try http://www.villagephotos.com/

Your "sub" sounds great BTW. Sounds like the kids love it too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kpt_Zig
04-28-2005, 06:56 AM
Sounds marvellous mate! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Franzen
04-28-2005, 07:26 AM
Ha ha ha, you must be the craziest S.O.B. on the face of the planet,........ and the coolest. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Good show dad! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz Franzen

Flyer00Jay
04-29-2005, 10:04 AM
This sub would be very cool to see.
Sounds like it was quite a project.

If you ever get those pics...post them!

The_Third_Half
04-29-2005, 10:11 AM
I love you !

And request that i be adopted immediatley !

snowdawg1
04-29-2005, 12:48 PM
I can remeber reading a story last year about a Dad that built his kids a MechWarrior tree fort. It was a 12 Ft high Mad Cat. Sadly it looks like the links to it are gone. I think stuff like this is so cool.. Way to go Dads !!!!!

dasgespenst
04-29-2005, 03:15 PM
Great to take time with your kids. My youngest son is 6 years old and spends the weekend watching "Das Boot".

He knows the crewmembers by heart, insists I call him Kriechbaum, and when the rest of the family says "Yes, dad" he replies "Jawohl Herr Kaleun..." with his little fingertips to the forehead.

Wonder where he got it from...? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

w00ps
04-29-2005, 03:31 PM
Man thats not crazy ... thats just WAY 2 COOL !!!

WereSnowleopard
04-29-2005, 03:48 PM
I bet many SH3 or other Submarine sim players hear about you and want to fly to visit you as bring kids to have picnic and play. Maybe you can make big plan to give date out to us so we may travel to meet all of us at your place? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Cheer
Snowleopard

Mylo42
04-29-2005, 09:25 PM
Tell you what snow...

Build yourself a 1/6 destroyer, bring'er over (you have to supply your own crew), and we'll do battle.

I've just finished enclosing the sub in it's own pen (An enclosure built using a wood frame with blue plastic tarp over it.). BdU came down with a directive stating that the sub operations needed to be more stealthy as there is suspicion that local authorities are obtaining intelligence. It is rumoured http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif that I have built a secret weapon of sorts..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif I suspect it won't be long before I'm brought in for questioning..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif but they'll never capture me or take my vessel...ALIVE !! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif "All hands into the lifeboats ! The Captain's scuttling the ship and going down with 'er !! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

The pen turned out to be a great addition because, as mentioned, it's just one of those cheap blue tarps. However, the crew have taken it upon themselves to paint it up like an ocean with the odd "contact" floating around. It's transparent enough to let light in, but casts that "eerie blue" all over.....good effect.

....believe it or not, I've had parents complain because it's "not safe". They're just mad because their kids think I'm cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif and think they are just old farts. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

.....boo hoo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

In any case, I may have a REAL war on my hands over this thing. I'm ready though, and so is my crew. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Franzen
04-29-2005, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by dasgespenst:
Great to take time with your kids. My youngest son is 6 years old and spends the weekend watching "Das Boot".

He knows the crewmembers by heart, insists I call him Kriechbaum, and when the rest of the family says "Yes, dad" he replies "Jawohl Herr Kaleun..." with his little fingertips to the forehead.

Wonder where he got it from...? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Ok, now you can untie him and let him get back to Sesame Street. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Fritz Franzen

Franzen
04-29-2005, 11:38 PM
Ha ha ha, Mylo, WMD's are illegal, depending on which state you are in. I hear Texas is safe. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Seems like you may be going to war with the Ladie's Auxilary. Tread carefully dude, those old muffins are dangers and hull piercing.

Use the art of modern warfare, call the local news papers after you've had the local firechief(invite him and his kids) say it's safe, then you are public. It's a kind of Ghandi technique.

There's more than one way to skin a neighbor. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz Franzen

fizilbert
04-30-2005, 01:01 PM
Say it's art, and then they can't touch you or it.

Mylo42
04-30-2005, 01:26 PM
Franz, Fiz..

I love the suggestions, especially the fire chief one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif ....as for art..well, I suppose that's in the eye of the beholder. It certainly is a strange looking beast from the outside. I think if I would have made a IIA, without deck gun or AA, it would have been less suspicious looking. When the crew "man the deck gun", and start moving it around, the neighbours hit the deck....hee hee. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

The problem arose when one of the crew fell off the sub while manning the deck gun (It must have been rough seas I guess), in spite of my efforts with the attached guardrail. Well, turns out he "got hurt" (sprained ankle, I think) after sliding down the hull. Man Overboard!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif It has created a "hub bub", with some adamant folks wanting the sub "de-commissioned". A few of the crew members have been denied their dolphins and aren't allowed to go on patrol anymore. Pressure is mounting from BdU, while although on my side, she is much more concerned over public opinion than I will ever be. She feels it neccessary to "keep the peace", while I, am more "let's go to war" oriented. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

I find it all quite pathetic really. I mean, any kid worth his salt is going to get hurt if he is truely playing, it's all part of growing up as far as I'm concerned. Yes, I should have been more diligent with regards to the safety of the crew..BUT..I was at the helm, we were on an attack run after a crippled tanker...I can't be everywhere.

In any case, patrols have been suspended until the "storm clears".

Franzen
05-01-2005, 12:53 AM
Did you consider setting your u-boot into the ground? Not so far to fall. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Fritz Franzen

Mylo42
05-01-2005, 01:15 AM
Franzen

This was definately an unforseen problem. While your idea certainly has merit, I would need to;

a) Determine where my underground utilities are.
b) Dismantle the sub pen.
c) Call in ANOTHER favour to get a back hoe (a 30' x 8' culvert would need quite a hole)
d) Call in yet ONE MORE FAVOUR to get a rather large picker, or crane truck, to lift the sub up and set it in the hole.
e) Fill the remaining hole around the sub so the crew doesn't fall in.
e) Reconstruct the sub pen.

This is certainly EXTRA work (and favours that I just don't know are available. If I had to pay for that kind of equipment, it's worth about $200/hour) just to find out that it won't totally solve the "irate parent" problem. (the crew have no problem whatsoever with the sub the way it is).

Hmmmm......I'll have to think about this for a while. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Franzen
05-01-2005, 01:59 AM
Ha ha ha, I can't believe how many proplems can come from such a good deed and intentions. Like they say "without bad how would you know good".

I also know in the US you can be sued for just about anything, such as burning your lips with hot coffee. Ha ha ha, that one still cracks me up. I remember in Canada a chain restaurant was sued because some guy crushed his manhood with a defective toilet seat. Still haven't figured that one out. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif To make the story more interesting, his wife later sued the same company for her losses. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

So I guess an irrate parent is not so bad. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

PS; hey, what about those pics?

Fritz Franzen

fizilbert
05-01-2005, 08:34 AM
As long as you dont live in a deed restricted community, I think the enemy will be SOL. If you dont have to worry about any restrictions, then you're well within your right to put whatever you want on your property.

I'm still in favor of just calling it art. It's a lot harder to have it torn down if its a "statue" instead of a "play ground."

pike1964
05-12-2005, 08:00 AM
Not a sub but Graf Spee and very cool as well

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/german_models/admiralgrafspeeterra.html

Mylo42
05-12-2005, 08:52 AM
O.K. ....now THAT....is cool. Hat's off to that guy. I wonder how much $$$ he's got into it ? I hope the guns are operable, 20ga shotgun perhaps. Go duck hunt with it.

Give em hell Admiral !! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The_Third_Half
05-12-2005, 09:02 AM
O
MG..

Thats absolutely amazing, i want one !! Like for real !!
Would a U-Boat version be possible ? With diving and a scope ? Hehe, maybe "paintball" torpedoes ?

Mylo42
05-12-2005, 09:13 AM
I ver finished my 1/6 scale sub story. That's because it has a sad ending.

Sunk at sea....all hands lost. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

To make it short and sweet. I "allowed" a crew member to participate in another patrol after having knowledge that his superior (parents) took away his dolphins. Just as the former issue was beginning to subside a little (the sprained ankle thing), this same crew member that I put on patrol got hit by the deck gun when it was being rotated on target. Wouldn't you know the little tyke was just tall enough to get the brunt of the blow right on the end of the nose. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif It was bleeding, he was screaming. I thought he busted it so I took him down to the hospital where I had some explaining to do. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Well....when the crewman's parents were notified and came down to the hospital....let me tell you. To say that they were mad is a gross understatement. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif I stood there and took it, I know when it's time to just shut up.

At the end of the day, a "group" was organized and threatened legal action, with regards to the injuring of the young crewman, on me if the sub was not immediately scuttled. (given that I had proven my inability to ensure the safety of her crew). I had no arguement, and certainly no defence. They were right, perhaps the sub was too dangerous. (In hindsight, it was that darn deck gun that caused all the grief). I stripped her down, got out my torch, and to the delight of those interested, cut it up in tiny pieces, loaded it in my truck and took it to the scrap salvage yard. This effectively absolved me of all wrong doing and liability with regards to the "incidents" on board. It was a sad time indeed. I am thankful for the memories, which I'm sure my kids will keep with them forever. To me, that's what counts.

The photos are still on the film, which is still in the camera. I don't have any means of turning them into digital format so, don't hold your breath. I'll put the "old school" photos in my albums, like I do the others. There are other photos of it unfortunately. A few ticked off parents video taped the thing for their legal actions. I told them they could. I was hoping they would change their minds. Being reminded of the whole thing again has got me depressed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Thanks again for the link to the 1:20 Graf Spree. That was great......and gives me an idea. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

fizilbert
05-12-2005, 09:38 AM
Sorry to hear that, but it's good to know you "took it like a man." These days it seems so rare for people to actually own up to their responsibility. I commend you on your honour.

I think we all would like to see the photos though. If they are all still in the camera, when you get them developed you can have the place put them on a CD. all you need to do then is upload them to some file hoster.

U-49
05-12-2005, 10:31 AM
Ack, that's too bad Mylo42. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I really enjoyed reading your humorous stories and updates on the sub and its enthusiastic crew. As you yourself mentioned, at least your kids will have wonderful memories to cherish for a lifetime. You're a cool dad for building and commisioning the sub, and your kids as well as the others no doubt truly appreciated it. Please post the pics if you ever get around to developing them and converting them into a digital format. Would love to see 'em!

So the questions begs: what's the next project?

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Mylo42
05-12-2005, 10:50 AM
Gents,

I appreciate your condolences on what is truely a "dark" period. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

As for "taking it like a man", well, I felt very defeated, as if the "world" was against something harmless and decent. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif ...let me tell you about being mad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif After cutting up the sub, I felt like cutting up a few SUV's. In retrospect, the sub may have been "too much" for the crew. If someone would have REALLY got hurt, by falling off an 8' conning tower and breaking their necks, I would find it difficult to cope with that. (not to mention living in a card board box after the lawsuit). I have had a chance to calm and reflect. I am not bitter towards what happened and again, I know all was not lost.

As for the next project...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif