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Shoop_da_whoop
05-20-2007, 01:17 PM
I listened to the recommendation I got from a previous topic to make this one. I have figured that it would be pretty smart to look into getting a reconditioned Saitek x52 for the $70 they have.

However, I don't like the fact that a reconditioned stick has a 30 day warranty only, making me somewhat skeptical about it. Does anybody here own a reconditioned Saitek stick and how will you grade their performance?

EiZ0N
05-20-2007, 01:33 PM
I don't have a reconditioned stick.

I do have a Saitek FFB stick though since March 2002, and I'm still using it now, so they do seem to last.

Therefore, it's highly likely to be fine.

zetazot
05-20-2007, 01:37 PM
I just ordered one, if you want to wait a bit I can let you know how it works out.

Right now anything would be an improvement over the stick I have. Its close to ten years old!

BrotherVoodoo
05-20-2007, 02:22 PM
I have ordered 7 months ago, a EVO Force and EVO 3D Force. No problems with either of them.

T_O_A_D
05-20-2007, 02:28 PM
Bearcat swears by them.
I personaly would not be afraid of them, my X-45 has got to be 5 years old or more by now.

John_Wayne_
05-20-2007, 02:33 PM
Very happy with my X-45 here, too.

Bearcat99
05-20-2007, 07:58 PM
http://star.walagata.com/w/bearcat/X-45mod.jpg

This X-45.. though not reconditioned... is the original X-45 that I bought on sale for $49 when FB was released. I have taken it apart & modded it up as you can see.. but it still works just fine.. from what I can see the construction is pretty sturdy... and I can almost guarantee you that the reconditioned X-52 that you get from Saitek will be just as good as any equivalent priced, other brand joystick you buy brand new.. perhaps with the exception of CH... With my stick I bought another one open box closeout at a Best Buy.. for the express purpose of cannibalizing.. I have a new unopened X-45 in my closet along with my unopened MSFFB2.. the only reason I didnt buy that one reconed was that they were not available at the time.... X-52s were.. but i like the X-45 rudder rocker.. which I use as a switch.


Look at it this way:


You can spend $152.95-$161.17 for brand new CH gear (throttle & stick.... $254.55 if you toss in rudder pedals) or you could spend $69.95 (149.90 if you include a set of reconditioned rudder pedals) for a Saitek rig. Your choice. Saitek makes good stuff.. and they stand by their products. Even if you have no plans to get rudder pedals for the moment (Although if you stay with this sim for more than a year I can almost predict that you will want pedals...) a well made HOTAS setup is what youy need to fly this sim and grow with it.. Can you do it with a regular joystick (as long as it has rudder control) and a keyboard? Sure you can..... so even a reconditioned EVO force for $29.95 or an Aviator for $19.95... or even a straight non FFB EVO for $14.95 is not a bad buy... By recommending the X-52 however I am just trying to save you some $$ down the line.. There are guys that fly this sim with jkust a stick & a keyboard... and do well and enjoy themselves... but once they get a dose of two fisted flying, they never go back.

and even still....

$49.99 (http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=3953061)... or $14.99 (http://saitekusa.stores.yahoo.net/cyevoflcore.html)....

$39.95 (http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4169687)... or $19.95 (http://saitekusa.stores.yahoo.net/avre.html)....

$98.88 (http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4073507)... or $69.95 (http://saitekusa.stores.yahoo.net/x52flcosyre.html).....

$69.95 (http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4169688)... or $29.95 (http://saitekusa.stores.yahoo.net/cyevofore.html)

It's your money... but if you are thinking Saitek anyway... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Besides.. even if you are really strapped.. $20 is what... a movie with popcorn and a soda for one? Especially in N.Y. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Suck it up buddy.. you won't be sorry..

Whatever you decide stay away from Logitech...

EiZ0N
05-20-2007, 08:43 PM
Who needs two fisted flying if your stick has a little throttle slider on anyway? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Shoop_da_whoop
05-20-2007, 09:12 PM
I completely understand what you are saying Bear. Whats the point of spending money for a single stick when one is most likely going to go HOTAS anyways? Though I have a scary tendency to have a short attention span with games. Luckily, i feel different about flying and will dedicate myself here.

*EDIT*
Actually, I was looking at the $15 Evo and was thinking that since its a very good stick, and I never even used a stick in my life before, maybe I should start with the Evo and then get the x52 when im more comfortable on my Bday (this Aug)?

Bearcat99
05-20-2007, 10:02 PM
Aug huh..? What day... I'm the 2nd.

Shoop_da_whoop
05-20-2007, 10:09 PM
22nd so I'll have a good couple months + experience and then move onto X52. Though I'll definitely go for a reconditioned x52 if I experience no problems with the recondition evo.

XyZspineZyX
05-21-2007, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by EiZ0N:
Who needs two fisted flying if your stick has a little throttle slider on anyway? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

More immersion and the fact that you can program buttons on the trottle so you never have to touch your keyboard again?

Long live two fisted flying.

Philipscdrw
05-21-2007, 06:14 AM
I'm using a CH flight yoke and pedals. (I came here from Microsoft Flight Sim, many years ago now...) It's not HOTAS, it's Hand On Yoke, Yoke, Keyboard and Throttles - I need two hands to reach all the yoke buttons! But I don't mind, it's quite realistic I think. HOTAS didn't get invented til the '60s or later. In WW2 you did have to drag your eyes inside the aircraft to adjust the supercharger gear or whatnot. And I don't think I'm at any real disadvantage. Except that the yoke is huge and takes up a lot of desk...

Bearcat99
05-21-2007, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by EiZ0N:
Who needs two fisted flying if your stick has a little throttle slider on anyway? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

No one needs it... it isn't about needs.... This is a purely selfish hobby we have here.. it's all about us. Literally. So speaking for myself... I like two fisted flying... if you are either too cheap, too shortsighted, or just plain old unable to do it right now due to other responsibilities or lack of funds.. then that's cool too... and totally your business. Me? I think that if you are going to do it go for the immersion. I highly recommend the two fisted bit.

T_O_A_D
05-21-2007, 06:35 AM
Originally posted by Shoop_da_whoop:
I completely understand what you are saying Bear. Whats the point of spending money for a single stick when one is most likely going to go HOTAS anyways? Though I have a scary tendency to have a short attention span with games. Luckily, i feel different about flying and will dedicate myself here.

*EDIT*
Actually, I was looking at the $15 Evo and was thinking that since its a very good stick, and I never even used a stick in my life before, maybe I should start with the Evo and then get the x52 when im more comfortable on my Bday (this Aug)?

Go ahead and get the Evo, and use it till Aug. Once Aug. gets here get the X-52 for your BDay, if your convinced you want to be a virtual pilot.

If are a Virtual Pilot by then, You can fly with both sticks. Use one of them for a button bay (the one you least like for feel) and then have the throttle too boot. This game will support up too 4 controllers.

Bearcat99
05-21-2007, 07:40 AM
Good idea.. thats how I came by modding my X-45. I was using thye stick as a button bay..(As you well know of course... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif)

Sillius_Sodus
05-21-2007, 11:21 AM
Back in the days of "Aces of the Pacific" I used to use two basic CH sticks, one for pitch and roll, the other for throttle and rudder. Worked like a charm. Two multi button sticks might just do the trick for you because of the extra stuff you need to do to fly properly in IL2, i.e constant trimming and/or engine management. Right now I use an EVO and a Nostromo N52 as my poor man's hotas.

Good hunting,
Sillius_Sodus

zetazot
05-25-2007, 11:11 AM
Alright! My refurbed X52 arrived today. I'm still at work so I haven't had a chance to plug it in, but wow is it a thing of beauty. It has a few scratches and scuffs, but nothing really detracting from the over all impressions. I can't wait to try it out on my extra-long weekend!

zetazot
05-29-2007, 06:13 PM
Flight tested the reconditioned X52 this weekend. Only odd thing I've run into it if I press the "i" button on the throttle the light on the stick's low hat joystick flashes. Odd. Don't know if its supposed to do that, but it doesn't seem to effect anything else.

I have not set up a profile yet, but here's my impressions so far...

The throttle is worth the price of admission alone. I'm not setting my jet engines on fire constantly anymore. It also make turning a lot smoother since I can throttle back now and turn tighter. Good stuff.

The stick is a little 'light and loose', but I like it that way. It makes it so you don't have to throw your stick all over the place.

Both are pretty solid. In the three short days that I've used them on and off, the quality of my flying has improved considerable. I'm finally getting prop planes off the ground.

The twist rudder is nice, if a little odd. Ten times better than using keys. I figure if I stick to the game, I'll get pedals eventually. But in the mean time I have to save my pennies for a Track IR.

Taylortony
05-29-2007, 06:40 PM
yup they do if u push the I button........... dont ask me why as not read the manual lol

Jediteo
05-30-2007, 07:12 AM
Do Saitek ship their products outside the US?. I live in Sweden and I am very interested in buying a HOTAS (I have an Evo).