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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 04:51 PM
Now that the patch is upon us, some will have to recognize the need to change their tactics to survive. In particular, those that wish to fly against Jug's will quickly learn that you better not try to out dive it. Any behavior contrary to this will result in your immediate death by compression breakup or 8 .50cals pumping lead into your butt. Good luck Luftwhinners! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 04:51 PM
Now that the patch is upon us, some will have to recognize the need to change their tactics to survive. In particular, those that wish to fly against Jug's will quickly learn that you better not try to out dive it. Any behavior contrary to this will result in your immediate death by compression breakup or 8 .50cals pumping lead into your butt. Good luck Luftwhinners! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 08:59 PM
Good luck getting up to 2000 meters before some g6a/s comes along and takes you apart with a few 30mm rounds.

P47s are great a/c, but have only one card in a DF - diving attacks from elevation. In any other situation, they are cannon fodder.

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 09:19 PM
I never had any problem getting up above the fight in the dogfight servers. If attacked while low and slow, just dodge about for a while at 0 altitude, and more often than not the bandit will be driven off or tire of chasing you. Then you are free to get some distance between you and the furball untill you can come back 3000meters up.

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 09:21 PM
Yeah,MK108 is waitin.

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 10:16 PM
Caught in a Stuka-sandwhich you will /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 10:28 PM
Hmm,you guys obviously have not flown the new "improved" LOL FM of the G6 vs the new P-47 and improved 8 .50cals. That is ok, see you in the air soon after you get the patch. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif The 109 are porked compared to the P-47. You'll see. he he /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Message Edited on 07/08/0302:31PM by UCLANUPE

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 10:31 PM
Actually I have flown both versions and I think P47 won`t be an opponent unless it attacks with an E advantage.


It`s terrific that planes stall again.

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 10:33 PM
carguy_ wrote:
- Actually I have flown both versions and I think P47
- won`t be an opponent unless it attacks with an E
- advantage.
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- It`s terrific that planes stall again.

Who fly's the P-47 as anything other than an E fighter? Oh yeah that guy is dead. LOL /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif




Message Edited on 07/08/0302:33PM by UCLANUPE

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 10:39 PM
there are no high altitude bombers to shoot down so p47 doesn't have much to do up high.

il2 is low altitude game - it reflects russian front.


maybe when we have b17's up high dropping bombs on your targets you'll have to come up and fight them, then they will have advantage?

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 10:56 PM
I love when I find Jugs in my 190. Its the only aircraft I can turnfight/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif They are tough, but tough is out the window when you got 4 20mms converging on ya/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 10:56 PM
Build7 that porked late 109`s clmbing abilities is just something that UBI got for testing, as far as i understand. But final release might be somewhat different. Remember IL2 patch that leaked couple of weeks before final release? A5 was a wonder uber thing in it...but final release was different... only time will show.

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 11:18 PM
UCLANUPE wrote:
- carguy_ wrote:
-- Actually I have flown both versions and I think P47
-- won`t be an opponent unless it attacks with an E
-- advantage.
--
--
-- It`s terrific that planes stall again.
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- Who fly's the P-47 as anything other than an E
- fighter? Oh yeah that guy is dead. LOL /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
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- Message Edited on 07/08/03 02:33PM by UCLANUPE



He is not saying the Jug must not be used as E fighter.

Attacking without E advantage means attacking from same altitude and/or same or similar speed.

XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 08:50 PM
The Russkies gave it their Navy (the VVS wouldn't touch it) and used it only to attack ships in the Baltic, never as a fighter or even a ground attack plane. It simply didn't fit with their turn and burn low alt fighters (same reason they got rid of the MiG) and if you had a Sturmo with its iron tub for armor and 23mm cannon for close air support, who needed the Jug?

Maybe they knew what they were doing? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Message Edited on 07/09/0309:54AM by tttiger