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XyZspineZyX
10-31-2003, 06:27 PM
since I am getting better at sitting in virtual cockpits I am just gettin use to the minimal down/forward view in the 190

hey this thing turns pretty good, almost as good as uber 39s and la7s, and I knew the guns were always good
It keeps its E very well in low hard turning battles.



Any pointers from 190 pilots??



by the way, this is a cool virtual 190 cockpit link I picked up from another forum


http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw190cockpit/CockPitMap.html

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XyZspineZyX
10-31-2003, 06:27 PM
since I am getting better at sitting in virtual cockpits I am just gettin use to the minimal down/forward view in the 190

hey this thing turns pretty good, almost as good as uber 39s and la7s, and I knew the guns were always good
It keeps its E very well in low hard turning battles.



Any pointers from 190 pilots??



by the way, this is a cool virtual 190 cockpit link I picked up from another forum


http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw190cockpit/CockPitMap.html

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XyZspineZyX
10-31-2003, 06:41 PM
Don't let the Soviets get your 6...


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XyZspineZyX
10-31-2003, 06:55 PM
i believe Maj death is the supreme 190 pilot and knowledge base around here im sure hell stop by

XyZspineZyX
10-31-2003, 07:22 PM
go fast, stay high, use the verticle. Actually I have found that if you are going one-on-one in a D9 you can get down and dirty with combat flaps pretty nice. I was having a nice slow turnfight with a F4 online the other day, but I ran out of fuel after about 15 minutes and no kills.


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XyZspineZyX
10-31-2003, 07:30 PM
I've gotten to really like it too. especially the A-9, but to say it can almost turn with a P-39? sorry...fraid not. The La7 on the other hand can't scissor with you as long as you keep your speed up you can get him to overshoot most of the time.





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XyZspineZyX
10-31-2003, 07:40 PM
Personally Im once again bored with the view the W├╝rger has in this game, kinda takes the fun away from the historical tactics.. but FW190 are fine plays, if you allways start the fight with alt. advantage.. and you are basicly untouchable. It takes some practise to score hits on fast passes with the fw190 gunsight, but practise makes champpion (so they say /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )..

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XyZspineZyX
10-31-2003, 07:40 PM
Once you learn how to use the Focke-Wulf in rolling maneuvers such as rolling scissors with varied extensions or vector rolls, you begin to learn just how deadly this machine is.


The Focke-Wulf is unlike any other fighter in FB with regard to it's flight regime, and tactics unique to it must be learned and practiced. Most people just don't have the patience for it.


IMO, the most dangerous opponent for the FW190s are the La-5/7 series or a well flown P-39 with the nose cannon.


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ZG77_Nagual
10-31-2003, 07:57 PM
I love this plane - it will outturn anything in the simm at high speeds. Lately I've been ending up against multiple opponents on a '43 server - particularly yaks. I have found that I can usually out-stall them if I get stuck with one on my six - it's very tricky business but alot of fun. On later servers I tend to stick with bnz in the more heavily armed a9 - but have had a number of high speed turn fights against la7s to good effect. High speed performance, and the need to get and keep an altitude advantage - in order to keep a speed advantage - are standard for the 190. What's not standard is stallfighting - which I've been playing with lately. On a '43 server a well-flown p39 is the most difficult opponent.

The 190 retains roll and rudder control even at very low speeds - but you really have to watch the control inputs and throttle - this last to avoid engine torque problems.

Basic good advice is to stay fast and do high speed passes at your oppenent - utilizing superior rudder, roll and instantaneous turn to get solid bursts from in close - but allways breaking off and choosing altitude over turning. You have to really maintain situation awareness against multiple opponents - particularly if they are all focused on you!

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XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 01:08 AM
I love flying the FW190.The BF109 to ME can turn tighter without going into a flat spin stall.Also the FW190 just feels alittle slower to react than the BF109,but like alot of other posters said if you have a high alt or alot of energy its a great plane with alot of punch.I know in the Biography of Luftwaffe Ace Gunther Rall(great book) he said I quote"Bf109s was to engage the long-range American fighter escorts so that the Luftwaffe's well armed but heavy FW190s could attack the bomber stream,a tactic that succeeded in bringing down hundreds of Fortress and Liberator bombers.Because of the weight of their extra cannon the FW190s were vulnerable to attack,or "bouncing,"by Allied fighters.Teaming up the FW190s with Bf109s meant the lighter planes could protect them.": unquote .In one of the missions I was flying I shot down 3 bombers and a P40 with a FW 190.One burst from a Fw190 with all its guns blazing and you can either take out a wing or engine on a bomber,and not spend all your ammo doing it.

XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 01:15 AM
The 190 is definately one of my favorite LW airplanes,along with the Stuka...

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XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 07:04 AM
The 190 requires slashing, hit & run tactics. High speed attacks require practice, so I would recommend flying a few QM's against slow opponents to get used to firing at high closing speeds. I would also practice using/kicking the rudder at the last moment to make any adjustments when firing. This is essential for 190 drivers to practice IMHO and is often overlooked.

The real key to flying the Focke-Wulf is discipline. If a shot isn't there don't force it, sacrificing your speed and energy. Don't make hard turns to follow opponents, let them make the hard turn and lose their speed/energy. Just break off, keeping up your speed and energy. Then use this advantage against them over and over. Use your superior roll-rate and diving capabilities to escape if in trouble. Fighting in the 190 may not be the most flashy, fun, and daring experience, but it certainly can be effective.

BTW, I love the FW-190. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 08:51 AM
jjlooxgood wrote:
- Don't let the Soviets get your 6...
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-Where did that come from?
-Sounds familier /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
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-From "The Wild Blue" by Stephen E. Ambrose:
-Talking about the Tuskegee Airman supplying air support for the B-24.

Ken Higgins looked out and saw the P-51's flying at the side of the Dakota Queen (B-24). The black pilot saw the camera in the camera hatch and called up on the radio, "Is that a camera in there?" Higgins said yes, and the pilot said, "How about taking my picture?" Higgins did.
Over the radio, he heard some fighter pilots talking: "Red Tail One to Red Tail Two. Is that you behind me?" Another voice: "Who that?" And the first voice: "Who that? Who say that?"
The colonel in the lead B-24 cut in: "Get off the radio. No speaking on the radio. Get off."
The fighter pilot came back on: "Who that?" he asked. In higgin's view, "That would keep you going, you know. A little levity here and there didn't hurt."


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Message Edited on 10/31/0311:53PM by helgstrand