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SOLO_Bones
11-25-2005, 05:06 AM
Just a question for the German friends of ours.
There must be many crash sites of WW2 aircraft scattered across the country. Did the German government keep detailed accurate records of these crash sites? Do they still exist?
The reason I ask; My Father was shot down flying a Lanc on Oct 6, 1944. The plane and crew came down somewhere near Emmerich.
If records do exist, how can they be obtained?
Thanks in advance for any help.

SOLO_Bones
11-25-2005, 05:06 AM
Just a question for the German friends of ours.
There must be many crash sites of WW2 aircraft scattered across the country. Did the German government keep detailed accurate records of these crash sites? Do they still exist?
The reason I ask; My Father was shot down flying a Lanc on Oct 6, 1944. The plane and crew came down somewhere near Emmerich.
If records do exist, how can they be obtained?
Thanks in advance for any help.

Low_Flyer_MkII
11-25-2005, 05:17 AM
These good people might be able to help you.

http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx

SOLO_Bones
11-25-2005, 05:26 AM
Thanks Low_Flyer. My father and most of the crew survived. The WO and Rear Gunner perished and are buried in the Reichswald Forest Cemetary. I'm specifically seeking the aircraft and related intelligence.

Tully__
11-25-2005, 05:43 AM
There are a couple of teams doing this work, there's a documentary series (british?) I saw an episode of recently which went with one of those teams on a couple of digs.

sy-subrc
11-25-2005, 05:53 AM
I can't give you any information on your specific request but here's a great website which covers all known aircrashes during WWII in the Saarland region -
It's really a great site with lots of informations and often the stories behind those crashes. It's provided in German and in English.

http://www.flugzeugabstuerze-saarland.de/

Worth a look..

Freycinet
11-25-2005, 05:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SOLO_Bones:
Just a question for the German friends of ours.
There must be many crash sites of WW2 aircraft scattered across the country. Did the German government keep detailed accurate records of these crash sites? Do they still exist?
The reason I ask; My Father was shot down flying a Lanc on Oct 6, 1944. The plane and crew came down somewhere near Emmerich.
If records do exist, how can they be obtained?
Thanks in advance for any help. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd say you should definitely talk to the British authorities, "War graves commission" or something like that. The British authorities have very complete info about wartime crashes...

hotspace
11-25-2005, 05:59 AM
Now this is a subject very close to my heart. Here's a few Links in this thread:

http://hellsgazelles.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=ww...ay&thread=1127571023 (http://hellsgazelles.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=ww2&amp;action=display&amp;thread=11275710 23)

And Tully and I think you were talking about "Time Team". They've done 2 Digs; 1st The 1st Spitfire to by shot down in France 1940 and another Dig where two A-26's collided with each other over the East of England.

You can find more info on their Site:

http://www.channel4.com/history/timeteam/

Hot Space

Freycinet
11-25-2005, 06:00 AM
oops, only now saw low-flyer's reply..

Low_Flyer_MkII
11-25-2005, 06:02 AM
Working on the theory that too many links are more useful than not enough:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/index.html

Freycinet, better two replies than none at all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

SOLO_Bones
11-25-2005, 07:15 PM
Hot Space, Thank you. That is the sort of thing I'm looking for. There is an abundance of Information on Crash sites in Great Britain but seems to be precious little for Germany (Aside from that wonderful link sy-subrc sent. Thanks sy-subrc.

marc_hawkins
11-25-2005, 08:08 PM
and equally sy-subrc thanks for your link!

Unknown_Target
11-25-2005, 08:36 PM
I don't mean to offend anyone, sorry if I do - but are there any of these crash sites still...around? Like, if a plane was shot down over wilderness or remote areas, would there be a possibility that they might still be there, in some form or another?

danjama
11-25-2005, 08:47 PM
Of course. Last year around christmas i was at families in Kent, while i was there i went for a walk to enjoy the fresh snowy air, and i actually came across an excavation(sp?) site. Of course noone was there because it was christmas eve, but there was a sign explaining that a Hurricane had been found there and they were extracting it. I couldnt see much apart from a big hole an loads of dirt, but it was interesting.

hotspace
11-26-2005, 06:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SOLO_Bones:
Hot Space, Thank you. That is the sort of thing I'm looking for. There is an abundance of Information on Crash sites in Great Britain but seems to be precious little for Germany (Aside from that wonderful link sy-subrc sent. Thanks sy-subrc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Anytime m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Hot Space

Pirschjaeger
11-26-2005, 07:16 AM
Ah man, I didn't see this thread before I started mine.

I've often thought that there must be many missing aircraft from the war. My uncle, Karl PĆ¼schel, and his 109 disappeared in the eastern front.

I've never been able to find anz info on him. I will have better chances when I'm back home.

Last spring I was in Germany looking around some castle ruins with a buddy. He told me his cousin is a treasure hunter for hobby and that he says the best place to look in Germany is in the east since it was forbidden to have metal detectors in the DDR. He figures west Germany has been picked clean.

I also know a guy who worked in Russia not far from Stalingrad. While he was there he asked one of the Russians whether or not relics from the war were still being found. He told me that the Russian said there were still tanks and such in the old battlefields. He was offered to be taken there but decided he didn't want to go because he was told the remains of the German soldiers had never been pickup or buried. If true, it should be a spooky place.

Fritz

BaldieJr
11-26-2005, 08:03 AM
I found some old shot-gun shells in the woods a few weeks ago.