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jessi1
06-13-2005, 11:04 AM
Can someone post the speeds at sea level for the late 109s(g6as to k-4) as well as climb rates if possible, been flyin the k-4 for awhile and i would like to try the g6as and the 151 nose mount, any one fly this plane regularly and what are the good and bad of it.

tigertalon
06-13-2005, 01:01 PM
Sorry, have no IRL charts on speeds.

G6AS (should be named G14AS, as G6AS IRL did not have MW50 AFAIK) is the best of all 109 series IMO, especially with fixed 151/20. It almost has tremendous maneouvrability of G2 and rocket climb of K4. Enough said.

vocatx
06-13-2005, 08:19 PM
Check in the "object viewer" in FB/PF. There's info on topspeed, time to climb to specific altitudes, and some aircraft have turn times listed. Lots of additional info.

3.JG51_Stecher
06-14-2005, 02:56 AM
Crimea, 1200, wind off, 110% throttle, MW50, radiator closed. Top speeds in level flight at sea level, km/h TAS.

Bf 109G-6/AS: 583
Bf 109G-14: 571
Bf 109G-10: 575
Bf 109K-4: 585

Kurfurst__
06-14-2005, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by jessi1:
Can someone post the speeds at sea level for the late 109s(g6as to k-4) as well as climb rates if possible, been flyin the k-4 for awhile and i would like to try the g6as and the 151 nose mount, any one fly this plane regularly and what are the good and bad of it.

SL speeds from ww2 german docs :

G-6/AS w. MW, 1,7ata MAP : 560 km/h
G-14 w. MW, 1,7ata MAP : 568 km/h
G-10 w. MW, 1,8ata MAP : 562 km/h*
G-10 w. MW, 1,98ata MAP : ca580-585 km/h (estimated)*
K-4 w. MW, 1,8ata MAP : ca595 km/h *
K-4 w. MW, 1,98ata MAP : ca607 km/h *

K-4 and G-10 had DB 605 D engines that could run on different powers (1,8ata 1850/1,98ata 2000HP) depending on the fuel used. All figures with 40mm radiator openings, apprx. Rad 2 in-game.

The G-6/AS appears to be overmodelled, unless its with 2000 HP ASCM, which seems to be the case... however only the - similiar - G-14/AS got this engine on occasion... the K-4 is undermodelled even for its lowest power, yet its ingame critcal alt of 6000m suggest that its using the more powerful DC engine, ditto for G-10 which is about OK for 2000HP. Odd.

Climb rates I wont get into, partly its differs a lot with different standards applied, and also that its usually inflated ingame vs IRL data.

3.JG51_Stecher
06-14-2005, 04:56 AM
Just to match those records for a better comparison, using radiator setting 2 drops the G-14 and G-10 by 4 km/h, the K-4 by 5 km/h and the G-6/AS by 7 km/h.