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RepXt
05-26-2007, 06:17 AM
haven't seen this around ...same level obviously but diff play through

tbh i'm not loving how it's going all "double dragon" in the fights ...where all NPC's assume a 'fight' stance ...all of them? and just wait their turns to attack? no weapons drawn ...i guess they just wanted to show the concept ...

http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclien...%3fid%5fnews%3d12269 (http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eplayerone%2ebe%2fplayerone%2f be%2fnews%5fdetails%2ephp%3fid%5fnews%3d12269)

it's the orange link in the body text ...dunno if it shows up in french ...convert and view...

MKCC14
05-26-2007, 07:09 AM
Video doesnt load/show.

scworld
05-26-2007, 08:01 AM
Shows more of the same.

Civilians act stupid. Sam takes on 3 police officers one by one, while at least 3 civilians are watching. 1 is running around http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif . Good job at copying GTA.

Chinese_Bookey
05-26-2007, 09:24 AM
Quite the fluid movements Sam's got there now. A 50 year old, rugged war veteran most likely wouldn't walk so youthfully, though. Hahaha! He looks like a 16 year old girl with that hoodie on, probably went on a diet before becoming a fugitive. Sheesh!

capteenix
05-26-2007, 09:43 AM
Well I Agree their much more fluid. But with all talk about next-gen, It still feels like tekken, in a way. You kill one, then other comes, you kill second, then third comes fight you. I think you know what I mean.

The AI is just...Poo...

simulacra
05-26-2007, 09:47 AM
And all this while it's 6 months left before release, OUTRAGEOUS!!!11

braiog
05-26-2007, 09:55 AM
Wow.

I think in SC6, Sam'll be able to fly by just putting his arms out. Looks like SC5 is going to be a button-mashing-jamboree!

....

*Breaks down and cries like a girl, falling to his knees and crying to the heavens* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Ghost477
05-26-2007, 12:43 PM
*Laughs and points at Braiog" Muahahahah!! I'm so evil... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

psyichic
05-26-2007, 12:50 PM
Who wants to bet that one of the Splinter Cell's is going to be a DDR game?

braiog
05-26-2007, 03:17 PM
Kinda like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFRpzMAz0vc

Specter_1075
05-26-2007, 04:24 PM
I love how the cops fly through the air like they weigh five pounds. And with the beard and satchel bag, he looks like what they were trying to do with Jack Bauer. What a joke. This footage looks very cheesy.

XBfreak_101
05-26-2007, 04:33 PM
Dude, who gives a ****. They dont even fly that far, so what are you smokin? If you havn't noticed, Sam is pretty strong...

LoneInTheDark
05-26-2007, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by XBfreak_101:
Dude, who gives a ****. They dont even fly that far, so what are you smokin? If you havn't noticed, Sam is pretty strong...

I just can't watch any more of how they have destroyed the way he walks. I know that sounds petty, but the way Sam swaggers is so novel. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

RepXt
05-26-2007, 05:30 PM
no weapons? like i said maybe they just wanted to show the core gameplay dynamic ...like when GoW was first previewed it was just bare chainsaws to show off the gore ...meh

MKCC14
05-26-2007, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by LoneInTheDark:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by XBfreak_101:
Dude, who gives a ****. They dont even fly that far, so what are you smokin? If you havn't noticed, Sam is pretty strong...

I just can't watch any more of how they have destroyed the way he walks. I know that sounds petty, but the way Sam swaggers is so novel. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I just think its being nitpicky...which i think most SC fans, they want their game perfectly perfect.

IAMDELTA
05-26-2007, 06:40 PM
I found another interview in English:
Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-r8VzIE994)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js6BEF0WwMo)

MKCC14
05-26-2007, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by IAMDELTA:
I found another interview in English:
Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-r8VzIE994)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js6BEF0WwMo)
Some good footage there, it does look like it still needs a lot of work of course, but it should still come out great.

Jackie Fiest
05-26-2007, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by braiog:
Breaks down and cries like a girl

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Knot3D
05-26-2007, 07:28 PM
The more i see of that Ubi presentation day, the more i am astounded to see the Ubi Montreal guys can sell this with a straight face.

"True to the values of what made SC" the announcer says ? Yeah, right... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

bunch of tools of CEO's , they are...

braiog
05-26-2007, 07:38 PM
Down Jackie! Down! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Don't be one of those "jumps the gun" kinda girls! Heh heh heh.

....

You're not packin, are you?

Chief_Goldblum
05-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Specter_1075:
And with the beard and satchel bag, he looks like what they were trying to do with Jack Bauer. What a joke.

You shut up sir.

MeloniesHomeboy
05-26-2007, 10:01 PM
WOW...That interview confirmed that build is pre-alpha, this game has a loong way to go, im doubting a Dec release. XD

Jason-Alaska
05-27-2007, 12:46 AM
Thanks for the English links IAMDELTA... My French is rusty! By rusty I mean I don't know ANY French. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Black-S
05-27-2007, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by MeloniesHomeboy:
WOW...That interview confirmed that build is pre-alpha, this game has a loong way to go, im doubting a Dec release. XD

Not necessarily. If they have the core game mechanics working correctly they can spend more time on level and story design, getting the gameplay right, adding all the eye candy stuff etc.

RepXt
05-27-2007, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by Black-S:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MeloniesHomeboy:
WOW...That interview confirmed that build is pre-alpha, this game has a loong way to go, im doubting a Dec release. XD

Not necessarily. If they have the core game mechanics working correctly they can spend more time on level and story design, getting the gameplay right, adding all the eye candy stuff etc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

totally agree, I'm assuming this is all they WANT to show for now, the object 'handles' the 3 button mechanic - aggressive, normal, stealth, the hand to hand combat (which looks quite cack with them hovering fists raised around a dangerous fugitive like sam fisher without tasers of at least a side arm) ...for me the eye candy is good to go, ubi's established their cred with GR:AW and SCDA ...it's the plausibility they really need to work on, in hitman blood money, if you got spotted it was straight up guns drawn and massive AI aggression, very believable reaction ...like I said, this is prolly all they're willing to show for now

oh and any idea on what the 'Y' button does?

Specter_1075
05-27-2007, 09:37 AM
Hmm, what am I smoking? Well, maybe I am high, but it seems to me that pushing someone when in a fight with them shouldnt end up sending him through the air at all. I dont care how strong Fisher is, you would be lucky to do that once, let alone repeatedly.

As for the reference to Jack Bauer, Im not sure why I was told to shut up, but to clarify, I used that as an example of how UBI seems to be running out of its own ideas. I mean, what exactly is unique in all this? I like 24, but that doesnt mean I want to see elements of it in something entirely different. Same for any other comparisons being made like Assassin's Creed, the Jason Bourne stuff, or even GTA. Those things already exist, so why am I supposed to be getting excited about something that is akin to a hybrid of them?

Vth_F_Smith_
05-27-2007, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by braiog:
Down Jackie! Down! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Don't be one of those "jumps the gun" kinda girls! Heh heh heh.

....

You're not packin, are you? Jackie is definitely not one of those "jumps the gun" kinda girls.........she prefers knives! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

scworld
05-27-2007, 09:51 AM
No, she prefers older men.

Revanon
05-27-2007, 12:52 PM
We are jumping to conclusions...MONTREAL is making the game people...they have NEVER FAILED US...ever...AND we have til December to see what they want to do...I think it will be alright...we've only been shown one aspect of the game...

ltred2006
05-27-2007, 03:22 PM
I'll be more than satisfied if they spend a good amount of time fixing the SC AI. It's never been the best before, and now it looks dumb. But now it's early on (pre-alpha was it?) they shouldn't run out of time.

I just don't want to be able to tackle cops be trotting backwards and chucking them at their mates. Police are trained http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif And neither do I want to be able to take them down without any effort - at least not on some.

And if someone steals your phone you don't trail after him at walking speed like you're the living dead trying to mutate him, and if you shoot up the gas barrels that'd bring way too much attention. Still, stuff can be fixed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Blind_Peanut
05-28-2007, 01:54 AM
You have to realise that they're showing us this kind of footage because it's new...

Do you honestly think it would be as controversial if we were being shown videos of Sam Fisher sneaking around and hiding. No.

Were being shown videos of Sam Fisher running around kicking peoples asses because it's different and so people can see the new things that will be in the game.

these are the first videos we've been shown of gameplay...so don't think that things won't change.

Hiddai
05-28-2007, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by Blind_Peanut:
You have to realise that they're showing us this kind of footage because it's new...

Do you honestly think it would be as controversial if we were being shown videos of Sam Fisher sneaking around and hiding. No.

Were being shown videos of Sam Fisher running around kicking peoples asses because it's different and so people can see the new things that will be in the game.

these are the first videos we've been shown of gameplay...so don't think that things won't change.

Yessss now i remind that it's like in DA that they always gave us those Kinshasa footages and Sam gone crazy they did it because watching a stealth footage may be boring (of course me personally i don't think like that...) of course i am sure as hell you can do this level stealthy like we all love without even use guns and attracting attentions...

Revanon
05-28-2007, 10:33 AM
I like the beginning of that footage where sam is talking with the other guy...it looks great. I didn't like how the cop was just walking after fisher though...I'd be yelling "Halt, stop!" I'd pull out my gun. It just seemed like the cop didn't care..or wasn't sure if that was Sam. UBISOFT has to make the Guards aggressive. It was like the cop couldn't see sam past 6 ft. The vision has to be longer....much longer...maybe that's not programable.

Blind_Peanut
05-28-2007, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Hiddai:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Blind_Peanut:
You have to realise that they're showing us this kind of footage because it's new...

Do you honestly think it would be as controversial if we were being shown videos of Sam Fisher sneaking around and hiding. No.

Were being shown videos of Sam Fisher running around kicking peoples asses because it's different and so people can see the new things that will be in the game.

these are the first videos we've been shown of gameplay...so don't think that things won't change.

Yessss now i remind that it's like in DA that they always gave us those Kinshasa footages and Sam gone crazy they did it because watching a stealth footage may be boring (of course me personally i don't think like that...) of course i am sure as hell you can do this level stealthy like we all love without even use guns and attracting attentions... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly.

MKCC14
05-28-2007, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Revanon:
I like the beginning of that footage where sam is talking with the other guy...it looks great. I didn't like how the cop was just walking after fisher though...I'd be yelling "Halt, stop!" I'd pull out my gun. It just seemed like the cop didn't care..or wasn't sure if that was Sam. UBISOFT has to make the Guards aggressive. It was like the cop couldn't see sam past 6 ft. The vision has to be longer....much longer...maybe that's not programable.
Just be thankful that we dont have vision cones like in MGS.

Chief_Goldblum
05-29-2007, 12:21 PM
Im also thankfull that we dont have giant robots and naked men.

MKCC14
05-29-2007, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by gameIarry9:
Im also thankfull that we dont have giant robots and naked men.
You mean naked men who does cartwheels...I dont even want to remember that experience. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Ghost477
05-29-2007, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by MKCC14:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gameIarry9:
Im also thankfull that we dont have giant robots and naked men.
You mean naked men who does cartwheels...I dont even want to remember that experience. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hehehe... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Chief_Goldblum
05-29-2007, 03:11 PM
and severed limbs that take over peoples minds...

braiog
05-29-2007, 03:22 PM
Revanon - If you were a U.S. police officer and you pulled your gun on someone who wasn't presenting a life-threatening situation to you, you'd be stripped of your badge and charged accordingly.

Why not just approach a car you pulled over for speeding with your gun out? A lot of innocent citizens would get scared and speed off. Carrying a gun is more of a responsibility than just brandishing it all the time. As far as civilian training goes, they tell you to flee the area first, and only pull your gun if you have to.

Fist fights won't qualify as life threatening unless they escalate into knives, strangulations, or other imminent-death situations.

Knot3D
05-29-2007, 03:25 PM
Wow...alot of childish MGS bashing in here.

Anyone who criticizes Conviction can be labeled a whiner, of course http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Lil Proximo7
05-29-2007, 03:43 PM
not only the video sucks..but the commentary guy for it is horrible..i muted him , how annoying...anyway...the game looks freaking dumb..call me a whiner, but i aint gonna kiss up to a lame game just because im a hard core splintercell fan..

Revanon
05-29-2007, 04:15 PM
I understand...that makes sense...then I would like the cop to yell "halt" then...or something...he was just walking...and I think he was doing that because his vision is too short.

Those MSG comparisons were hilarious by the way...

braiog
05-29-2007, 04:28 PM
Yelling "Halt" would be implementing realistic AI, which, don't get me wrong, is what you need in a game like this, but at the same time is VERY hard to program.

Too many times law enforcement officials are depicted as "banter", easily dispatched, and relatively stupid, in games. It's not to say they are Sam's equal, we know they aren't. But if a cop think he needs assistance, the first thing he should do is call backup to meet him at a certain place.

So will we hear cops say "I'm following subject into the ____________"? Probably not. You'll hear something generic like "I'm continuing to follow subject. Requesting assistance at my position."

Now, tasing Sam would be a viable option for police. After they see Sam beat down an officer unconscious, they can apply LTL (Less than Lethal force) such as tasers, beanbag shotguns and pepperspray) They won't just wait one by one to get their *** kicked. That's illogical AI.

Problem is, for a game, it has to balance entertainment and realism (those 2 usually clash) If the game is too realistic, it will be too difficult to be fun. If the game isn't realistic enough, it could be more fun, but where's the challenge in that?

MKCC14
05-29-2007, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Knot3D:
Wow...alot of childish MGS bashing in here.

Anyone who criticizes Conviction can be labeled a whiner, of course http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
We're bashing the game on things that actually were in the game and things that i had to play through. Naked guys, guards peeing on you, men with vision cones, and vampires.

Some of you bash SCC on dumb things that you even encountered in the game and none of you havent even play the game.

EDIT: Oh, and lets not forget about the fat guy on skates...that was hilarious. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

braiog
05-29-2007, 04:48 PM
I still maintain the belief that you don't have to experience something to have an opinion on it.

aka "I don't need to have someone jam an ice pick under my toenail to have an opinion that I wouldn't like it." In the same way, I don't need to necessarily play the game to say that I don't like it. My observation by what I've seen (which pretty much is HOW you form an opinion) is all I need.

Knot3D
05-29-2007, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by braiog:
I still maintain the belief that you don't have to experience something to have an opinion on it.

aka "I don't need to have someone jam an ice pick under my toenail to have an opinion that I wouldn't like it." In the same way, I don't need to necessarily play the game to say that I don't like it. My observation by what I've seen (which pretty much is HOW you form an opinion) is all I need.

Word http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

MKCC14
05-29-2007, 05:06 PM
The bashing of SCC I've seen around here werent that much of an opinion. They were mindless dumb jokes that tried to make the game look very bad.

Lil Proximo7
05-29-2007, 05:44 PM
"""They were mindless dumb jokes that tried to make the game look very bad."""

tooo late..it already looks bad with out the help of our dumb jokes!!!! lmao

Release_15
06-01-2007, 09:31 AM
tooo late..it already looks bad with out the help of our dumb jokes!!!! lmao
You should do standup. I'll invite some hobos.
I'm sure they know where to get ahold of 'slightly dated fruit'...

Wow...alot of childish MGS bashing in here.

Anyone who criticizes Conviction can be labeled a whiner, of course

Let's just say they're both whiners. That works.
Both theories are based on bias, BS and inability to let go, so it seems plausible to me.