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SlickStick
09-08-2005, 03:10 PM
It's a Thursday night partaaaaaayyyy!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The NFL kicks-off tonight and this season looks quite promising with many stars changing teams, some great Rookie prospects and looking at the schedules, some great match-ups this year.

As some know, I am a diehard Cowboys fan and have been since 1969, Roger "The Dodger" Staubach's Rookie year. He was my childhood sports hero.

Dallas has had a great draft, picked up some key players in Free Agency, including WR Peerless Price, and for the first time in a looooong time, actually won more pre-season games than they lost.

I have them slotted to challenge the EAGLES (Eagles Are Green Losers Every Superbowl) for the Division crown this year. Let's hope McNabb and Owens DON'T patch things up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Who do you like and how far do you think they'll go this year?

MEGILE
09-08-2005, 03:20 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

HayateAce
09-08-2005, 03:21 PM
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/031103_staubach.jpg

Yes we are ready.

SlickStick
09-08-2005, 03:28 PM
Nice pic, HayateAce.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Considering how well Roger did with only 10 seasons in the NFL, makes me wonder about how much more he could have done if he didn't serve in the Navy first, right after college.

Of course, his duty was more important, and still is. Just wondering though.....http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

p1ngu666
09-08-2005, 03:41 PM
thats not proper football http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

horseback
09-08-2005, 03:55 PM
Slick, the Cowboys are going to have a very rough Opening Day this year. LaDainian Tomlinson has announced that he wants to set the single season rushing record this year, Drew Brees wants another Pro Bowl, Shawn Merriman wants to know why the Cowboys passed him up in the draft, Marty Schottenheimer has won more opening day games than any other active coach, and everyone in San Diego is talking about a big ring with Roman numerals on it.

Oh, yeah. They're playing in the Q. The odor of fish tacos can be overwhelming for visitors...

cheers

horseback

horseback
09-08-2005, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
thats not proper football http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
It's football for people who have eye-hand coordination, mate. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

cheers

horseback

Vacillator
09-08-2005, 03:59 PM
I thought football was an English game, but after watching the last two England games I might be ready to watch something different. On the other hand I might stick to flying...

Hoarmurath
09-08-2005, 04:00 PM
http://www.vivabrazil.com/images/PELE.JPG

Udidtoo
09-08-2005, 04:05 PM
Queue up on the left, line forms here. Due to the large numbers of Europeans who will feel compelled to inform Slickstick that he wouldn't know real manly football if it bit him on the ar$e a numbers system will be used this year. If you don't have a number please get one.

Please limit the use of poff and or nancies to no more than 3 times in your post. If your a rugby or Australian rules fan also using this thread to sneer at the footies purists who are sneering at the American football fans think on this.

Out here a real sport involves oneself, a large and angry bull trying to break your neck and 8 seconds. Having Team mates for your "He man" sports smells of a lack of confidence. Although y'all do look nice in those stripy shirts and knees socks.

snafu73
09-08-2005, 04:06 PM
As Pingu said, that is'nt proper football.

The clue is in the name, FOOT-BALL!, what's it got to do with the foot? they should have called it HAND-ELLIPSOID!

Football is played with your feet and a spherical ball! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

JG52_wunsch
09-08-2005, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Hoarmurath:
http://www.vivabrazil.com/images/PELE.JPG

thats football!and it started 2 weeks ago,m8.

WarWolfe_1
09-08-2005, 04:15 PM
I'm hoping David Carr and company can put together a playoff season. Dallas looks tuff this year, are they Back? I doubt it though. The Big Tuna sould to look to a younger QB. Not to mention a lack at WR. They have made some good free agent pickups.

Is this Mannings year? Phillys year finaly? Maybe Vick can take it to the house? With Ricky Williams back will Miami have a turn around year? Oh how the soap oprea has begun!

Honey bring the Beer, and lock the kids OUT!

All in all, its going to be another wierd year I beleive.

University of Texas to win the BCS!!!!! Hook Em Morns.......Hey Sooner fans, Is Bob Stoops all that after all?

carguy_
09-08-2005, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Vacillator:
I thought football was an English game, but after watching the last two England games I might be ready to watch something different. On the other hand I might stick to flying...

Heheh English are too stiff to be a champion these days.If you guys don`t work on something different you will lose with Poland in October.No,not that I believe in that happening.


Anyway I don`t have time for NFL.Chamion`s League,Word Cup Germany 2006 is about enough.

I do love NBA though.Have to stay up until 6-7am but it`s worth it.Watched some WNBA that almost made me puke.Basketball aint for pussies!

RedDeth
09-08-2005, 04:35 PM
first off the chargers have the best running back and the best tight end in the nfl. and probably at this point the 5th best quarterback.

dallas does not stand a chance against san diego. im not a fan of either team but i aint stupid. i picked 3 chargers for my fantasy football league

second the pats lost 3 tough guys on D and offensive and defensive coordinators. they wont make it to the super bowl this year. defense gets you to the big game.

steelers D is actually alot better this year than last year and their D was ranked number 1 in the nfl.

based on that and the fact the steelers have essentially the same team as last year but their quarterback now has experience the steelers have the best shot at superbowldom

so AFC to me i think itll be steelers then chargers then pats ranking.

nfc eagles then falcons then vikings. vikings got D this year.

superbowl i think steelers vs eagles

those should be the top six teams and if your a cowboy fan dont get excited cuz it isnt happening this year. you have NO quarterback and no superstar running back or receiver to take the weight off the QB.

Clan_Graham
09-08-2005, 04:42 PM
The Rock & Roll Redskins are gonna eat dem dar Cowboys fer breakfast !!!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/Shrike401/redskins.jpg

Kuna15
09-08-2005, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p1ngu666:
thats not proper football http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
It's football for people who have eye-hand coordination, mate. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

cheers

horseback </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like you are reffering to Diego A Maradona. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Owlsphone
09-08-2005, 05:21 PM
Don't get me started on the Eagles... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Didn't you know Philadelphia is only allowed to go as far as the finals in every sport?

SlickStick
09-08-2005, 05:32 PM
Ok, first things first....

I'll give it to Rugby and Austrailian Rules players that they are a tough-a*s*s bunch and quite manly in their sport, but as for soccer, that's a sport for athletes that aren't good enough to play in the NFL. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

As for the Chargers, yes they were a great team last year and should be this year. Yes, they have a much improved QB. Thomlinson is a helluva running back, but I've got a gut feeling about this opening day.

Dallas has improved significantly on both sides of the ball and with Roy Williams moved to Strong Safety and the addition of Demarcus Ware playing DE and LB, depending on 3-4 or 4-3, the Chargers will have to beat Dallas with the pass, because Da Boyz will be focusing on the run.

Red, Bledsoe will be more than adequate this year and Julius Jones is a Superstar in the making, entering his 2nd season. He rushed for over 800yds in just 8 games last season due to injury and that included a 4.2yd AVG and 7 TDs. He's not Emmitt yet, but he's well on his way with his Emmitt-like Rookie numbers. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif As for the Steelers, fahgetaboutit. They go nowhere this year. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Clan, all I can say to that is:

54-34-2

13 of the last 14

Dallas hasn't lost to the Skins since 12/29/2002. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SlickStick
09-08-2005, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Owlsphone:
Don't get me started on the Eagles... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Didn't you know Philadelphia is only allowed to go as far as the finals in every sport?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Hoarmurath
09-08-2005, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
Ok, first things first....

I'll give it to Rugby and Austrailian Rules players that they are a tough-a*s*s bunch and quite manly in their sport, but as for soccer, that's a sport for athletes that aren't good enough to play in the NFL. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


American football is for people too dumb to understand rugby rules. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Kuna15
09-08-2005, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
Ok, first things first....

I'll give it to Rugby and Austrailian Rules players that they are a tough-a*s*s bunch and quite manly in their sport, but as for soccer, that's a sport for athletes that aren't good enough to play in the NFL. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Nice joke.http://free-vk.t-com.hr/domagoj/smileys/lol_3.gif

Saunders1953
09-08-2005, 05:42 PM
Cowboys? Eagles? Redskins? Who dey?



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Ceasar1/Brett20Favre9.jpg

SlickStick
09-08-2005, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Hoarmurath:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:
Ok, first things first....

I'll give it to Rugby and Austrailian Rules players that they are a tough-a*s*s bunch and quite manly in their sport, but as for soccer, that's a sport for athletes that aren't good enough to play in the NFL. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


American football is for people too dumb to understand rugby rules. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Yes, but I'll bet you more people watch the NFL in the world than any Rugby or Austrailian rules.

Soccer, well, those other countries need some sport for their "athletes" to play, since they can't come to the US and play in the NFL. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Ahhhhh, the Packers. Those poor souls. what Dallas did to them in the 90's was downright brutal, hehe. However, GB doesn't look too good this year and I'm not expecting much from them, but that's why they play the games. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Saunders1953
09-08-2005, 05:53 PM
Hey Slick, those early 90's were brutal, thanks mostly to the Cowboys. And even though Favre's in good shape, I think the team is in real bad trouble. Then again, the last couple of years after their first win of the season, everyone here is shouting "Superbowl!" which is just stupid...maybe this year "a bad rehearsal means a great play" will be more like it.

Enjoy the party!

9th_Spitin
09-08-2005, 05:59 PM
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/images/fanzone/wallpaper/40-640x480.jpg

SlickStick
09-08-2005, 06:18 PM
Awww great.....thanks allot Spitin. Now, the thread is officially "ruined" with the appearance of that d*a*m*n*e*d logo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

One thing I'll give the Eagles...

They are the biggest choke artists (OK, mostly McNabb http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif ) since.....

The BILLS (Boy I Love Losing Superbowls). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

(whisper)However, they have dominated Da Boyz lately and I'm hoping we can at least win one against those bastages this year. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

badaboom.1
09-08-2005, 06:27 PM
CHICAGO BEARS IN 05!!!!!!!!

SlickStick
09-08-2005, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by RedDeth:
steelers D is actually alot better this year than last year and their D was ranked number 1 in the nfl.

based on that and the fact the steelers have essentially the same team as last year but their quarterback now has experience the steelers have the best shot at superbowldom

Where do you expect the Steelers to go with no running game and a pack of mediocre receivers that are going to be thrown to, by a sophmore year QB, who by now has been on every team's movie screen and will not have the element of surprise anymore?

Teams will prepare for Benny, so he will have a much harder time this year I think. Not to take away from his skill though, I think he's going to be one of the great ones, if he avoids injuries. Steeler receivers are 'meh' and none have stepped up to star level yet.

BTW, Quincy isn't going to be much help unless you guys give him a major overhaul at WR. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Clan_Graham
09-08-2005, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by badaboom.1:
CHICAGO BEARS IN 05!!!!!!!!

1905?

SlickStick
09-08-2005, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
Shawn Merriman wants to know why the Cowboys passed him up in the draft....

This is an interesting point, as Shawn was sure he was going to be a Cowboy, but he's hurt and hoping to be ready for the opener.

The Cowboys have to play run first in this game, beyond a doubt. Must keep LT under 100. And for that to happen, their corners are going to be in man coverage, allot, and if Brees is hot, it could be a long day for somebody.

Dallas has improved on defense, IMO, especially at the DL/LB position. Plus, some veteran secondary acquisitions look promising.

On offense, Julius Jones can also have as big a day as Thomlinson. He has star potential written all over him and the work ethic to get it done. Bledsoe has to use play-action and short, 3 sec drops effectively for Dallas to have a chance to win this game.

With the addition of Peerless Price, Da Boyz strength at WR jumped up a notch. Sure, next is Keyshawn and Terry Glenn, two aging vets, but they can still play and all it would take is a little momentum for them to get going. They are both still capable of big games.

I'm pretty sure the game is nationally televised on FOX at 4:15EST. I'll raise a beer to all of yas, and hopefully in honor of my team's victory. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

danjama
09-08-2005, 07:00 PM
I wish you Yanks would stop calling football "Soccer" its gettin me down http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif Football is ours, now leave off!

-HH- Beebop
09-08-2005, 07:14 PM
Re: "That's not proper football".

Let's see, each half is started by kicking the ball.

After each touchdown the ball (usually) is kicked for an extra point.

After every touchdown the scoring team kicks the ball to the opponent.

An alternative way to score is to kick a field goal.

You have to move the ball 10 yards to achieve a first down. There's 30 feet

If you cannot achive 30 feet (10 yards) in four downs you punt (kick) the ball.

The length of a football field is 100 yards (110 Canadian). That's 300 feet (330 feet Canadian).

That's a lot of feet and a lot of kicking. It may not be "proper" but it sure sounds like FOOTBALL to me.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

oh yeah, GO STEELERS!

SlickStick
09-08-2005, 07:21 PM
You posted at kickoff, danjama, how appropriate. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I always forget what "football" means outside of the US. My apologies. Maybe we should change the name to...

foothandball?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

(edit)Ooh, BeeBop to the rescue. Nicely stated. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Udidtoo
09-08-2005, 07:34 PM
Hey this year our Arizona Cardinals could really hav.............. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif I tried to keep a straight face but I blew it.

We would gladly trade the entire Bidwell family for 1 hunchbacked bell ringer. Ah the Cardinals, last refuge for former standout Quarterbacks and starting point for future Hall of Famers who get cut. Ya, Novachek wasn't good enough to be a Cardinal http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

ColoradoBBQ
09-08-2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
You posted at kickoff, danjama, how appropriate. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I always forget what "football" means outside of the US. My apologies. Maybe we should change the name to...

foothandball?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

What's a footh? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

SlickStick
09-08-2005, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by ColoradoBBQ:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:
You posted at kickoff, danjama, how appropriate. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I always forget what "football" means outside of the US. My apologies. Maybe we should change the name to...

foothandball?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

What's a footh? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

foot-handball

FootHandBall

hehe

9th_Spitin
09-08-2005, 08:17 PM
OK here is another one, sorry about posting the wrong one.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/images/fanzone/wallpaper/67-800x600.jpg

9th_Spitin
09-08-2005, 08:19 PM
Alright, back to watching the game in HD on my 55" Widescreen. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

blakduk
09-08-2005, 08:31 PM
Okay, i'll join in this silly argument....

Soccer is c*ap- the thing that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom is opposable thumbs. They are the things that soccer forbids you from using http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Also, no wonder the fans are always rioting- its not unusual to have a long game with lots of energy and skill but NO SCORE! If thats not a wasted effort and a recipe for a disgruntled and hyped up crowd ready to kill each other i dont know what is.
Get violence back on the field where it belongs (and where it can be seen by all).

American football- the violence is good but the continual stoppages are infuriating.
Its also common for the majority of players to never touch the ball and although they can palm each other off they can only grasp the player with the ball (see above re 'opposable thumbs').
What i really dislike however is just how expensive all the gear is- do you guys have to overcomplicate everything including your sports and politics?

Basketball- a game for tall freaks who are good at niggling each other and hiding indiscretions from the referees (i would only ever last about ten minutes playing basketball before i got fouled off, some would try to fondle me so i'd hit them- then I would get sent off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif)
Again, not enough violence that you can see.

Aussie rules- great fun to play, everyone gets to belt each other and grab the ball. It has high scoring and plenty of action, but no 'off-side' rule so you're fair game to get cleaned up from any angle. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rugby http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif- (not to be confused with 'rugby league'- too many stoppages). Has all the advantages of american football without: the stoppages, endless player replacements, exhorbitant cost in equipment, just as many broken bones but more blood (tend to see more cuts due to the lack of armour) and ITS INTERNATIONAL (at least among the majority of the remnants of the British empire and assorted other countries such as Japan, Italy, France, Argentina- basically the civilized world http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif)

I'm actually glad the USA doesnt take rugby too seriously- if their professionals started playing 'the game they play in heaven' we'd be in big trouble.

In the summer of course we have cricket... but the less said about that until the end of the ashes series currently underway the better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Frequent_Flyer
09-08-2005, 09:05 PM
Da Bearsss !!! in 2005. The 20th year anniversary of " The Superbowl Shuffle " The city should just be recovering from a White Sox World series victory. The NFL- The BIGGEST, Strongest, and fastest athletes, not to mention the cheerleaders, whats not to like.

SlickStick
09-08-2005, 10:31 PM
The plight of every poor Eagles fan....

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/3711/eaglesaregreenloserseveryseaso.jpg

H*e*l*l, the RedSox did it. I suppose anything is possible. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


Eloquently posted, blakduk. Funny, too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

woofiedog
09-08-2005, 11:05 PM
Oh yes... Thursday, September 8, 2005

Final
Oakland 20
New England 30

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Miramar2004/Highlights/Patriots.jpg

spitzfiya
09-09-2005, 12:42 AM
Football? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Badsight.
09-09-2005, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
Ok but as for soccer, that's a sport for athletes that aren't good enough to play in the NFL. oh come on , those poofta's couldnt run 5 minutes let alone 45-a-side

Originally posted by SlickStick:
Yes, but I'll bet you more people watch the NFL in the world than any Rugby or Austrailian rules. well Rugby , the mans sport , gets played in more countries , & its "world" cup has some credible claim to the "world" part lol

but as you know , the most widly watched team sport with the most viewers is Soccer

but fairs fair , we all know that its just the backward Americanese that requires Gridiron to be called Football

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
09-09-2005, 01:24 AM
Well I am no big fan of Football (read soccer if your west of Ireland) but one thing I would like to see is an NFL team made up of members of the 7 nations rugby teams! Not many pretty boys in amongst that little lot and I think Wilkinson could probably teach you guys a thing or two about kicking egg shaped balls around. Any how your all entitled to enjoy your national sports and I hope you have a great season.

Low_Flyer_MkII
09-09-2005, 02:11 AM
A blast from the past..........

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/argies.jpg

.........for any Englishmen who have lost their copy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

carguy_
09-09-2005, 03:12 AM
Ortega,Zanetti,Batistuta,Veron and uuuuuum....

TooMuchCheese
09-09-2005, 06:19 AM
Northern Ireland .... 1
England ..............0


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

http://www.u.tv/newsroom/indepth.asp?id=25844&pt=s

'Nuff said http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

KGr.HH-Sunburst
09-09-2005, 06:36 AM
Oh yes American (we-cant-hold-the-ball-long-enough-at-our-football) so they pick it up and start running around with it like drunken gorillaz

please DO keep it there

EDIT: http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

KGr.HH-Sunburst
09-09-2005, 06:49 AM
**** to late http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
http://www.admirals.nl/mediamanager/data/media/31/amilcargrot.jpg

NorrisMcWhirter
09-09-2005, 08:34 AM
Nah, that's not running around with a ball. THIS is running around with odd shaped balls and you don't even need any pads:

http://www.gcc.edu/alumni/homecoming/2004/review/reunion2/mens-rugby-01.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ta,
Norris

Udidtoo
09-09-2005, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by blakduk:
Okay, i'll join in this silly argument....

Soccer is c*ap- the thing that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom is opposable thumbs. They are the things that soccer forbids you from using http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Also, no wonder the fans are always rioting- its not unusual to have a long game with lots of energy and skill but NO SCORE! If thats not a wasted effort and a recipe for a disgruntled and hyped up crowd ready to kill each other i dont know what is.
Get violence back on the field where it belongs (and where it can be seen by all).

American football- the violence is good but the continual stoppages are infuriating.
Its also common for the majority of players to never touch the ball and although they can palm each other off they can only grasp the player with the ball (see above re 'opposable thumbs').
What i really dislike however is just how expensive all the gear is- do you guys have to overcomplicate everything including your sports and politics?

Basketball- a game for tall freaks who are good at niggling each other and hiding indiscretions from the referees (i would only ever last about ten minutes playing basketball before i got fouled off, some would try to fondle me so i'd hit them- then I would get sent off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif)
Again, not enough violence that you can see.

Aussie rules- great fun to play, everyone gets to belt each other and grab the ball. It has high scoring and plenty of action, but no 'off-side' rule so you're fair game to get cleaned up from any angle. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rugby http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif- (not to be confused with 'rugby league'- too many stoppages). Has all the advantages of american football without: the stoppages, endless player replacements, exhorbitant cost in equipment, just as many broken bones but more blood (tend to see more cuts due to the lack of armour) and ITS INTERNATIONAL (at least among the majority of the remnants of the British empire and assorted other countries such as Japan, Italy, France, Argentina- basically the civilized world http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif)

I'm actually glad the USA doesnt take rugby too seriously- if their professionals started playing 'the game they play in heaven' we'd be in big trouble.

In the summer of course we have cricket... but the less said about that until the end of the ashes series currently underway the better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Good for my morning chuckle Sir TY. We actually played a game called Keep away in 5th and 6th grade that had all the energy and bloodshed of Rugby without all the rules.

Playing field was the asphalt of the school yard, teams were usually 20 or so each side. No rules, no fouls. Team in possession of the ball when the monitor blew the whistle won the day. I didn't have knees or elbows for 2 years, just scabs.

When Philip Wright got ran into the bike rack face 1st and fractured his skull they wouldn't let us play anymore http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif What a wonderfully lawsuit free world we lived in then. It was understood back then if you played hard you would be injured. Today Flips mom n dad would own the school and the rack manufacturers

SlickStick
09-09-2005, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by Badsight.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:
Ok but as for soccer, that's a sport for athletes that aren't good enough to play in the NFL. oh come on , those poofta's couldnt run 5 minutes let alone 45-a-side

Originally posted by SlickStick:
Yes, but I'll bet you more people watch the NFL in the world than any Rugby or Austrailian rules. well Rugby , the mans sport , gets played in more countries , & its "world" cup has some credible claim to the "world" part lol

but as you know , the most widly watched team sport with the most viewers is Soccer

but fairs fair , we all know that its just the backward Americanese that requires Gridiron to be called Football </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL, running ain't ****e without the hitting at the end. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif The NFL has 260lb Linebackers that can run a 4.40 40yd dash and bench press over 500lbs, they expend more energy in 60 minutes of NFL, than three soccer games put together, hehe.

So, to confuse you even more, Gridiron is what the field is called. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Running around kicking a ball is in no way comparable to the strength, conditioning, endurance, power, throwing, running, catching, kicking required to play in the NFL. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I'm pretty sure the SuperBowl is the most watched sporting event every year, but this thread wasn't about who gets to call it football or which sport is better. It was about the NFL kicking-off and who our favorite teams were.

Plus, a little ribbing on the side because that's what we NFL fans do best. Root for our own team and boo the other teams until our throats hurt, lol.

Sunburst, yes, the NFL has invaded Europe and is doing quite well from what I hear. Unfortunately, NFL europe only gets the scrubs and players who couldn't make it in the "REAL" NFL here in the states. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

SlickStick
09-09-2005, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Udidtoo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blakduk:
Okay, i'll join in this silly argument....

Soccer is c*ap- the thing that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom is opposable thumbs. They are the things that soccer forbids you from using http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Also, no wonder the fans are always rioting- its not unusual to have a long game with lots of energy and skill but NO SCORE! If thats not a wasted effort and a recipe for a disgruntled and hyped up crowd ready to kill each other i dont know what is.
Get violence back on the field where it belongs (and where it can be seen by all).

American football- the violence is good but the continual stoppages are infuriating.
Its also common for the majority of players to never touch the ball and although they can palm each other off they can only grasp the player with the ball (see above re 'opposable thumbs').
What i really dislike however is just how expensive all the gear is- do you guys have to overcomplicate everything including your sports and politics?

Basketball- a game for tall freaks who are good at niggling each other and hiding indiscretions from the referees (i would only ever last about ten minutes playing basketball before i got fouled off, some would try to fondle me so i'd hit them- then I would get sent off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif)
Again, not enough violence that you can see.

Aussie rules- great fun to play, everyone gets to belt each other and grab the ball. It has high scoring and plenty of action, but no 'off-side' rule so you're fair game to get cleaned up from any angle. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rugby http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif- (not to be confused with 'rugby league'- too many stoppages). Has all the advantages of american football without: the stoppages, endless player replacements, exhorbitant cost in equipment, just as many broken bones but more blood (tend to see more cuts due to the lack of armour) and ITS INTERNATIONAL (at least among the majority of the remnants of the British empire and assorted other countries such as Japan, Italy, France, Argentina- basically the civilized world http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif)

I'm actually glad the USA doesnt take rugby too seriously- if their professionals started playing 'the game they play in heaven' we'd be in big trouble.

In the summer of course we have cricket... but the less said about that until the end of the ashes series currently underway the better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Good for my morning chuckle Sir TY. We actually played a game called Keep away in 5th and 6th grade that had all the energy and bloodshed of Rugby without all the rules.

Playing field was the asphalt of the school yard, teams were usually 20 or so each side. No rules, no fouls. Team in possession of the ball when the monitor blew the whistle won the day. I didn't have knees or elbows for 2 years, just scabs.

When Philip Wright got ran into the bike rack face 1st and fractured his skull they wouldn't let us play anymore http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif What a wonderfully lawsuit free world we lived in then. It was understood back then if you played hard you would be injured. Today Flips mom n dad would own the school and the rack manufacturers </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We used to call it "kill the guy with the ball". Hehe, remember those carefree days of playing tackle football with the neighborhood kids at the park, with no pads, helmets, nothing? Lots of cuts, scrapes, broken bones, but that wasn't going to stop us. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I played flag football well into my 30's in an organized league. Had a ton of fun, then tore my ACL and lost 40% cartilidge in one knee in a basketball playoff game and ended my sports career. Good old days though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

woofie, that was a good game last night. It started out much more competitively than it ended though. The Pats look just as strong as last year, but then again, they were playing the Raiders with their swiss cheese secondary. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SlickStick
09-09-2005, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkII:
A blast from the past..........

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/argies.jpg

.........for any Englishmen who have lost their copy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

LMAO!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

horseback
09-09-2005, 10:34 AM
Actually, we called it 'Smear the (Totally Inappropriate and Demeaning Reference To a Gay Male)'. Our version of Philip ran into a tree (okay, he had help) and shattered his collarbone and almost scraped his left ear completely off. We thought it was really cool until the Great White Rat (the Principal of Fred W. Fickett Junior High-can Tucson residents confirm if Mr. Cronk is still there 40 years later? -- I half expect he is) put his foot down and halted all those rough games at recess.

By the way Slick, Jones ain't running nowhere. We had the No.2 ranked defense against the run and we played Denver and Kansas City twice each. The Bolts are now likely to improve on that, having had a year to get used to playing the 3-4. The 'Boys are gonna have lots of grass stains on the seats of those pretty silver pants...

cheers

horseback

Owlsphone
09-09-2005, 10:36 AM
Slick, back off on the Eagles please. We've had enough abuse already...

We have T.O.

9th_Spitin
09-09-2005, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Owlsphone:
Slick, back off on the Eagles please. We've had enough abuse already...

We have T.O.

Monday night will tell us what we are in for with TO this year. He does get everyone stired up and the philly fans get into it.

SlickStick
09-09-2005, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by horseback:
By the way Slick, Jones ain't running nowhere. We had the No.2 ranked defense against the run and we played Denver and Kansas City twice each. The Bolts are now likely to improve on that, having had a year to get used to playing the 3-4. The 'Boys are gonna have lots of grass stains on the seats of those pretty silver pants...


Ooh, a San Diego fan steps up to the plate.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Yes, the Chargers look like a good team this year, I just have a feeling about this Opening Day and I sense an upset with Dallas being only a +4.5 point underdog at the moment. So, the oddsmakers must know something. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Owlsphone, I'd love to oblige, but they are my most-hated team in the NFL. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Where I live, I'm smack in the middle of Giants and Eagles fans. I dislike all of our division rivals somewhat, but I pray the Eagles never win a SuperBowl in my lifetime, lol.

SlickStick
09-09-2005, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by NorrisMcWhirter:
Nah, that's not running around with a ball. THIS is running around with odd shaped balls and you don't even need any pads:

http://www.gcc.edu/alumni/homecoming/2004/review/reunion2/mens-rugby-01.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ta,
Norris

Hmmm, you'd think Rugby players would be bigger and have more muscles...some of them are rather twerpy-looking. The NFL has Wide Recievers and Cornerbacks with more muscle than those guys, hehe, but that is one tough game, I'll give you that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Just in case some Rugby and Austrailian rules fans didn't know it, but they don't call the most popular Sports video game series, Madden NFL for nothing. hehehehehehehe

Owlsphone
09-09-2005, 11:23 AM
It even goes beyond the players with the Eagles. We also have TO's agent Drew Rosenhaus thinking he is Jesus Christ himself.

Did you hear the radio shows the day after he took time out of his busy schedule to come down from heaven to save that little boy at Disney World? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Heck, I say we pay TO whatever he wants as long as theres a stipulation in the contract saying he has to fire his agent. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif


EDIT: I tried to find the actual clip but all I could get was a quote from his interview after he saved the boy.

"It was mass hysteria; people screaming, calling for help. Trying to keep the mom calm. The father was there. It was just a really scary scene. Fortunately I was just cool under the pressure and again, the instincts that kicked in. Hey, I'm always portrayed as the bad guy agent. It was just really a great feeling for me to do something good to help somebody having nothing to do with being an agent. This was Drew Rosenhaus the person, not the agent. It was the happiest day of my life... Hey, maybe the Eagles will show me some love and they'll see that I'm a good guy and that I helped this kid. Although he's from Chicago... maybe this will help me in my negotiations with the Eagles."

SlickStick
09-09-2005, 11:43 AM
And here all this time I thought T.O. was just a doofus all on his own. I didn't know he was being doofus-coached by his agent, lol. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Low_Flyer_MkII
09-09-2005, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by TooMuchCheese:
Northern Ireland .... 1
England ..............0


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

http://www.u.tv/newsroom/indepth.asp?id=25844&pt=s

'Nuff said http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Fair call mate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Kuna15
09-09-2005, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by carguy_:
Ortega,Zanetti,Batistuta,Veron and uuuuuum....

I will play and said Diego Simeone. Long run in Inter and Lazio iirc.

Everyone here keeps talking about kicking and I can see that not many have a clue what is it all about.
THIS is kicking:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/Kuna15/Funny/soccer_kick_000.jpg

BTW who won at the American footbal game?

Badsight.
09-09-2005, 05:31 PM
the hardest sport on the body is . . . . soccer

with motocross second

Gridiron is almost all just a short crash , or standing around

in no way can you compare the fitness needed in gridiron to Rugby or soccer , not even a contest

power & strength conditioning on the other hand ,. . . . .
Originally posted by SlickStick:

LOL, running ain't ****e without the hitting at the end. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif The NFL has 260lb Linebackers that can run a 4.40 40yd dash and bench press over 500lbs, they expend more energy in 60 minutes of NFL, than three soccer games put together, hehe.

So, to confuse you even more, Gridiron is what the field is called. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Running around kicking a ball is in no way comparable to the strength, conditioning, endurance, power, throwing, running, catching, kicking required to play in the NFL. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I'm pretty sure the SuperBowl is the most watched sporting event every year, but this thread wasn't about who gets to call it football or which sport is better. It was about the NFL kicking-off and who our favorite teams were.

Plus, a little ribbing on the side because that's what we NFL fans do best. Root for our own team and boo the other teams until our throats hurt, lol.

Sunburst, yes, the NFL has invaded Europe and is doing quite well from what I hear. Unfortunately, NFL europe only gets the scrubs and players who couldn't make it in the "REAL" NFL here in the states. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif Madden is awesome , & its outsold in australasia by EA,s rugby05 & WCR

SlickStick
09-09-2005, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Badsight.:
the hardest sport on the body is . . . . soccer

with motocross second

Gridiron is almost all just a short crash , or standing around

in no way can you compare the fitness needed in gridiron to Rugby or soccer , not even a contest

power & strength conditioning on the other hand ,. . . . .<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:

LOL, running ain't ****e without the hitting at the end. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif The NFL has 260lb Linebackers that can run a 4.40 40yd dash and bench press over 500lbs, they expend more energy in 60 minutes of NFL, than three soccer games put together, hehe.

So, to confuse you even more, Gridiron is what the field is called. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Running around kicking a ball is in no way comparable to the strength, conditioning, endurance, power, throwing, running, catching, kicking required to play in the NFL. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I'm pretty sure the SuperBowl is the most watched sporting event every year, but this thread wasn't about who gets to call it football or which sport is better. It was about the NFL kicking-off and who our favorite teams were.

Plus, a little ribbing on the side because that's what we NFL fans do best. Root for our own team and boo the other teams until our throats hurt, lol.

Sunburst, yes, the NFL has invaded Europe and is doing quite well from what I hear. Unfortunately, NFL europe only gets the scrubs and players who couldn't make it in the "REAL" NFL here in the states. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Although Motocross is quite a physical sport, as I used to ride myself, not even close to the punishment an NFL lineman takes over the course of a year or a running back for that matter.

Not everyone on a soccer field is running all of the time either. When the ball is over the halfway line and near the other team's goal, the fullbacks are basically standing around watching, no? They can only go so far up field, right?

Also, I'm betting the NBA does more running than soccer as the whole team is constantly on the move, whether on defense or offense. However, any professional athlete, IMO, is just that, a Professional athlete and they get my respect. Even if they are only allowed to use their feet. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Rugby05, that's only in Austrailia. Madden is sold far and wide to many, many more countries, not just the USA.

However, this is a thread about the NFL and the fun Sundays that I get to spend between September and January here in the USA. My favorite sport by far and for me, all other US sports are just filler in-between NFL seasons.

Even though I'm an avid Mets and Knicks fan. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Also, at quick glance that guy carrying the ball in the above Rugby pic, looks an awful lot like Troy Aikman with red hair. hehehe

Owlsphone
09-09-2005, 07:21 PM
Ya know scientists calculated that for every time a quarterback is sacked, it shortens his life by 1 month. Average shortened lifespan is 7 years I recall.

Badsight.
09-09-2005, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
Although Motocross is quite a physical sport, as I used to ride myself, not even close to the punishment an NFL lineman takes over the course of a year or a running back for that matter. seriously , this study done in the late nineties showed the sport that required the most conditiong at the top level & that dished out the most punishment to the body had as number 1
1 Soccer
& as number 2
2 Motocross

you may be impressed with NFL player power , but the sport doesnt rate in fitness needed or punishment given

the abuse Motocross riders go thru is insane

& yes Madden is sold in more countries , but the sports only really populer in the states & is outsold here in NZ & i bet Rugga05 outsells Madden in europe too as does the awesome pro-Evolution Soccer (very awesome title like madden is to NFL) , & man do the sports programs in the states like to talk things up , everytime i watch they are going on like the whole world is on the verge of imploding (NBA NFL NHL comentators)

SlickStick
09-09-2005, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Owlsphone:
Ya know scientists calculated that for every time a quarterback is sacked, it shortens his life by 1 month. Average shortened lifespan is 7 years I recall.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

_________

Ah, OK Badsight. I'll have to look up that study somtime. However, I don't doubt it. Besides, we were just having fun and I wasn't really basing on any facts, just my perceptions.

They are two different types of athletes. It's really not the same type of punishment that a soccer player takes on every play, as an NFL player does. Soccer is not meant to be a contact sport, other than the legal tackling. In my book, that's just tripping, lol. The NFL is all about contact. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SlickStick
09-09-2005, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Kuna15:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by carguy_:
Ortega,Zanetti,Batistuta,Veron and uuuuuum....

I will play and said Diego Simeone. Long run in Inter and Lazio iirc.

Everyone here keeps talking about kicking and I can see that not many have a clue what is it all about.
THIS is kicking:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/Kuna15/Funny/soccer_kick_000.jpg

BTW who won at the American footbal game? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kuna, that pic is just wrong. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

That poor fella. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

NorrisMcWhirter
09-10-2005, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NorrisMcWhirter:
Nah, that's not running around with a ball. THIS is running around with odd shaped balls and you don't even need any pads:

http://www.gcc.edu/alumni/homecoming/2004/review/reunion2/mens-rugby-01.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ta,
Norris

Hmmm, you'd think Rugby players would be bigger and have more muscles...some of them are rather twerpy-looking. The NFL has Wide Recievers and Cornerbacks with more muscle than those guys, hehe, but that is one tough game, I'll give you that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Just in case some Rugby and Austrailian rules fans didn't know it, but they don't call the most popular Sports video game series, Madden NFL for nothing. hehehehehehehe </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're right - I couldn't find a pic with any bigger players. I also could find one of them being lobotomised before they embark on a rugby career(!)

I think rugby was just invented by sadistic P.E. teachers so they could delight in you having to get kicked in the head (with studs) whilst trying to tackle someone before landing heavily on solid frozen ground http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ta,
Norris

SlickStick
09-10-2005, 08:40 AM
I'm with ya, Norris. Now, that you mention it, I think you're right about the sadistic gym teacher part, hehe.

As for size differences, I'm thinking, it might be better to be smaller, wilier and faster as a Rugby player, to avoid more hits than you take. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

The NFL guys would be killing themselves without pads, given their overall physiques and the speed at which they can move them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

zombiewolf92553
09-10-2005, 11:00 AM
Ice hockey Ice hockey.Hurling Field hockey

NBA is a farce very close to professional wrestling. Basketball is a girls game

Dunkelgrun
09-10-2005, 11:21 AM
In all of the Katrina-related news I haven't heard where the New Orleans Saints are going to play. As a Brit I don't really care, but with NFL franchises sometimes relocating several states away I was just curious.

Cheers!

PS I did get to see the 49ers v Detroit (I think) in SF many years ago. An interesting experience (Joe Montana and Jerry Rice in their prime) but I'm unlikely to do it again.

SlickStick
09-10-2005, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
In all of the Katrina-related news I haven't heard where the New Orleans Saints are going to play. As a Brit I don't really care, but with NFL franchises sometimes relocating several states away I was just curious.

Cheers!

PS I did get to see the 49ers v Detroit (I think) in SF many years ago. An interesting experience (Joe Montana and Jerry Rice in their prime) but I'm unlikely to do it again.

So far, the Saints first scheduled home game against the Giants is going to be played at Giant stadium on a first-ever Monday Night doubleheader on Sept. 19th. New York viewing area shall see the game on ABC-NY, Gulf area on their local affiliates, while most of the rest of the country still sees the Cowboys - Redskins game, scheduled for the same night.

Luckily for me, I'm located in a part of NJ that gets both NY and Philadelphia channels, so I'm expecting to still get the Cowboys game that night on TV.

The rest of the Saints home games are being planned at the moment, with the games most likely split between LSU in Baton Rouge, LA and San Antonio, TX.

NorrisMcWhirter
09-10-2005, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
I'm with ya, Norris. Now, that you mention it, I think you're right about the sadistic gym teacher part, hehe.

As for size differences, I'm thinking, it might be better to be smaller, wilier and faster as a Rugby player, to avoid more hits than you take. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

The NFL guys would be killing themselves without pads, given their overall physiques and the speed at which they can move them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I had a m8 that played rugby and I was asking what he did (I don't know much about the game). After a long discussion, I came to the conclusion that his main job was to, in the scrum, punch the opponents in the face or stamp on their feet.

Gentleman's game? I don't think so.

Ta,
Norris

SlickStick
09-10-2005, 12:16 PM
All legal too, I'll bet, right? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Low_Flyer_MkII
09-10-2005, 12:21 PM
My rugby coach taught the scrum to go for the opponent's goolies - as only an ex-Scots Guards RSM could. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

ImpStarDuece
09-10-2005, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Yes, but I'll bet you more people watch the NFL in the world than any Rugby or Austrailian rules.



More than Aussie Rules; highly probable.
More than Rugby Union; highly improbable.

Rugby Union is played in
England
Ireland
Scotland
Wales
France
Uraguy
Russia
Australia
New Zealand
Canada
South Africa
Argentina
Fiji
Brazil
Italy

ect, ect.

There are 95 countries on the IRB world rankings board. Sure, not as much as soccer, but still a fair wack of the world.

At least we dont hold a national competition and haveb the temerity to call it the "World Series" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

WarWolfe_1
09-10-2005, 11:40 PM
wonder if the greatest rugby player could bench press a VW? I know for a fact Ray Lewis could.

ImpStarDuece
09-11-2005, 02:06 AM
Don't know who Ray Lewis is, but Johnah Lomu, a New Zealand All-Blacks winger, weighed 110kg (245 lbs) and could do the 100 meters (110 yards) in 10.8 seconds http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif .

woofiedog
09-11-2005, 03:25 AM
There's going to be some Great Football today...

So get those Beer's Chilling and precook that Chilli... by the way here is a recipe from Low_Flyer_MkII that he had posted on another thread... http://www.rubymurray.com/curry/displayrecipe.asp?Name=...rmy+Chicken+Vindaloo (http://www.rubymurray.com/curry/displayrecipe.asp?Name=British+Army+Chicken+Vindal oo)
and don't forget a sizzling Rack of Rib's to chew on!

Just a few of the Games...

1:00
Denver at Miami
Tennessee at Pittsburgh

4:15
Dallas at San Diego

8:30
Indianapolis at Baltimore

9:00
Philadelphia at Atlanta

SlickStick
09-11-2005, 08:06 AM
Good line-up, woofie. The couch is going to have my butt pressed into it for some lengthy hours today. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Here we go Cowboys, here we go....boomp boomp

Here we go Cowboys, here we go...boomp boomp

http://www.geocities.com/~jrbeasley/dallas/pix/trophies.jpg

LStarosta
09-11-2005, 08:58 AM
To reiterate... Football is gay. Cross Country is the only real fall sport.

Nobody has ever gotten fat from participating in Cross Country... Which can't be said for football and those obese pigs you call linemen.

WarWolfe_1
09-11-2005, 10:07 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif


That comment is juvnile. you have showed your age again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif.

SlickStick
09-11-2005, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
To reiterate... Football is gay. Cross Country is the only real fall sport.

Nobody has ever gotten fat from participating in Cross Country... Which can't be said for football and those obese pigs you call linemen.

You should look up the word obese. NFL lineman are far from obese with their muscle to fat ratio.

From what I recall in HS, those that didn't make the football team went out for track. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

LStarosta
09-11-2005, 12:08 PM
Football requires one ball to play.

Distance running requires two.

Low_Flyer_MkII
09-11-2005, 12:12 PM
Tell that to Paula Radcliffe.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/vj_pg_big.jpg

JG7_Rall
09-11-2005, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
To reiterate... Football is gay. Cross Country is the only real fall sport.

Nobody has ever gotten fat from participating in Cross Country... Which can't be said for football and those obese pigs you call linemen.

You should look up the word obese. NFL lineman are far from obese with their muscle to fat ratio.

From what I recall in HS, those that didn't make the football team went out for track. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Football and track seasons do not coincide. Therefore, we can't presume anything else that you say is fact.

I'm glad we've all come to a consensus on this matter. Cross Country is, in fact, the best sport ever.

Carry on.

JG7_Rall
09-11-2005, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkII:
Tell that to Paula Radcliffe.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/vj_pg_big.jpg

touche

MEGILE
09-11-2005, 12:32 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

SlickStick
09-11-2005, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
To reiterate... Football is gay. Cross Country is the only real fall sport.

Nobody has ever gotten fat from participating in Cross Country... Which can't be said for football and those obese pigs you call linemen.

You should look up the word obese. NFL lineman are far from obese with their muscle to fat ratio.

From what I recall in HS, those that didn't make the football team went out for track. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Football and track seasons do not coincide. Therefore, we can't presume anything else that you say is fact.

I'm glad we've all come to a consensus on this matter. Cross Country is, in fact, the best sport ever.

Carry on. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not sure what HS you went(go) to, but we had winter track at my HS. Which did coincide or came during Football season. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Great games and some weird games today. The Cowboys squeezed out a victory in San Diego on a 4th down interception to end what was a very good game, IMO. Both teams had their share of mistakes and thankfully they held LT under a 100yds and Bledsoe played an excellent game.

LStarosta
09-11-2005, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
To reiterate... Football is gay. Cross Country is the only real fall sport.

Nobody has ever gotten fat from participating in Cross Country... Which can't be said for football and those obese pigs you call linemen.

You should look up the word obese. NFL lineman are far from obese with their muscle to fat ratio.

From what I recall in HS, those that didn't make the football team went out for track. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Football and track seasons do not coincide. Therefore, we can't presume anything else that you say is fact.

I'm glad we've all come to a consensus on this matter. Cross Country is, in fact, the best sport ever.

Carry on. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not sure what HS you went(go) to, but we had winter track at my HS. Which did coincide or came during Football season. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Great games and some weird games today. The Cowboys squeezed out a victory in San Diego on a 4th down interception to end what was a very good game, IMO. Both teams had their share of mistakes and thankfully they held LT under a 100yds and Bledsoe played an excellent game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Football is a fall sport. Track is a spring sport. The phenomenon you might have witnessed was either Cross Country or pre-season training for Winter Track, which oddly enough occurs in the winter.

However, seeing as many football players do short distance events in winter track, I do not see how these two seasons coincide.

JG7_Rall
09-11-2005, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
To reiterate... Football is gay. Cross Country is the only real fall sport.

Nobody has ever gotten fat from participating in Cross Country... Which can't be said for football and those obese pigs you call linemen.

You should look up the word obese. NFL lineman are far from obese with their muscle to fat ratio.

From what I recall in HS, those that didn't make the football team went out for track. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Football and track seasons do not coincide. Therefore, we can't presume anything else that you say is fact.

I'm glad we've all come to a consensus on this matter. Cross Country is, in fact, the best sport ever.

Carry on. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not sure what HS you went(go) to, but we had winter track at my HS. Which did coincide or came during Football season. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Great games and some weird games today. The Cowboys squeezed out a victory in San Diego on a 4th down interception to end what was a very good game, IMO. Both teams had their share of mistakes and thankfully they held LT under a 100yds and Bledsoe played an excellent game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm...you must have had one late football season or one really early winter track season. Either way, I'm glad you've accepted the fact that running owns football. After all, football wouldn't be much without running, would it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

LStarosta
09-11-2005, 08:43 PM
One morning after a pre-season 6am practice, I was going to my car to go home, when two football kids were walking to their practice. One said to the other:

"Hey, after practice, you wanna drop soap?"

True story.

SlickStick
09-12-2005, 07:48 AM
LOL, some would say that the only two dropping soap around here are Pre and you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Track is for the wimps, geeks and the ones who cannot even play soccer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

How 'bout dem Cowboys?!?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

han freak solo
09-12-2005, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
LOL, the only two dropping soap around here are Pre and you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Track is for the wimps, geeks and the ones who cannot even play soccer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

LOL LOL LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ROTFL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

han freak solo
09-12-2005, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
One morning after a pre-season 6am practice, I was going to my car to go home, when two football kids were walking to their practice. One said to the other:

"Hey, after practice, you wanna drop soap?"

True story.

You mis-heard them. They were talking to you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Ankanor
09-12-2005, 11:53 AM
I've never been to an American football game(it's in the list, though) but as far as I am concerned, this is as medieval as human race can go. OK, second to actually killing the dude in front of you. even the way the game is played, it more looks like a pitched battle between two phalanxes, with fast cavalry on the wings. I mean, look at their gear. A few aspises and 8 foot spears and they can start recreating Thermopylae or Marathon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif Plus, they would look real. now that I'm thinking, it better be called phalanxball. much, much more true http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

As for the exhaustion level, matt damon put it really nice in Dogma:

Raining down sulphur is like an endurance trial man. Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, next to soccer.

horseback
09-12-2005, 12:20 PM
Could you make incidental contact with Drew Bledsoe's head while taking him down in medieval times? If so, I'm all for it...

horseback

Ankanor
09-12-2005, 12:39 PM
I was referring to the other meaning of "medieval" the one used in "Pulp Fiction" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif "I'ma get medieval on yo @ss" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and yet partly to describe the ferociousness and brutality(IMHO) of that game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SlickStick
09-12-2005, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
Could you make incidental contact with Drew Bledsoe's head while taking him down in medieval times? If so, I'm all for it...

horseback

Unfortuantely, current rules in the NFL do not allow for incidental contact to a QB's head. Regardless of how it happens. Besides, it was a straight shot to the side of his head/face mask. I saw it, too. And the replay clearly showed it as well.

All in all, horseback, IMO, it was a well-played game. Dallas made as many stupid penalty mistakes as San Diego did and only through tenacity and an improved defense, not to mention a stellar performance from Bledsoe, did they eek out the victory against a good team like the Chargers.

Besides, the 4th down "Hail Mary" Brees completed to get to the 7 was a miracle in itself. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif The day however belonged to a Dallas team that played hard, played as a team and overcame early mistakes.

Now, Patrick Ramsey of the Skins took a really nasty neck tackle that slammed his head into the turf and he had to leave the game. Although no penalty flag was thrown, the league will be fining the tackler for that un-necessary roughness. Be sure.

SlickStick
09-12-2005, 02:03 PM
Ankanor, I agree it is a somewhat violent game, but it's ten times less violent than it used to be when the game was in it's golden age. Boxing to me is worse, but dang it, I like to watch a good fight, too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

OberUberWurst
09-12-2005, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
Football is gay.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

horseback
09-12-2005, 03:13 PM
Straight shot to the head/shoulder while being shoved backwards by a 320 lb Dallas blocker? How can you control that, and how can the League justify penalizing players in that situation?

When the rule was instituted about ten years ago, the penalty was supposed to be for 'intentional' blows to the passer's head, but it has been selectively enforced ever since. If a rookie commits the offense on an established QB, it's called; if it's an established defensive player and a second-line quarterback, it depends on obvious malice, much more on the teams' respective markets and how much coverage nationally the game has.

If that had been Ray Lewis on Chad Hutchinson back there, I doubt that there would have been a flag.

BTW, I give much more props to Keyshawn than to Bledsoe. That man can catch the football. That TD catch falling backwards was brilliant.

cheers

horseback

SlickStick
09-12-2005, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
Straight shot to the head/shoulder while being shoved backwards by a 320 lb Dallas blocker? How can you control that, and how can the League justify penalizing players in that situation?

When the rule was instituted about ten years ago, the penalty was supposed to be for 'intentional' blows to the passer's head, but it has been selectively enforced ever since. If a rookie commits the offense on an established QB, it's called; if it's an established defensive player and a second-line quarterback, it depends on obvious malice, much more on the teams' respective markets and how much coverage nationally the game has.

If that had been Ray Lewis on Chad Hutchinson back there, I doubt that there would have been a flag.

BTW, I give much more props to Keyshawn than to Bledsoe. That man can catch the football. That TD catch falling backwards was brilliant.

cheers

horseback

From the replay I saw, his arm was not blocked, but came straight at the side of Bledsoe's head. I think the refs got that one right.

As for Keyshawn, he did make a nice catch, but Bledsoe's numbers tell the true tale of the Dallas offense + Jones' 93Yds:

18 of 24, 226yds, 3TD, 0 INT, QB RATING = 143.4

Keyshawn had 5 Catches for 65YDs and 2 TD. IMO, Crayton had a better game, but it was nice to see Bledsoe spread the ball around a little.

edited typo of KJ's TDs.

Ankanor
09-12-2005, 04:34 PM
Actually, this is what phalanxball looks like from the side : you have a guy who can use his hands and brains=QB, you have guys who can run=help me out with this, running back? and you have guys who can... well you know, linemen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

LStarosta
09-12-2005, 04:43 PM
Haha... Track and XC for wimps?

You probably couldn't get your fat butts to run a mile, let alone 10!


Our XC team plays a full game of football for a COOLDOWN!

horseback
09-12-2005, 04:44 PM
One might think that you've never tried to simultaneously obstruct a potential pass (Bledsoe had his arm cocked to throw) and grab somebody by the opposite shoulder while being shoved backwards. The guy (Luis Castillo, our 1B pick -he's gonna be a good one)was trying to get his right hand down on Bledsoe's left shoulder before he was shoved back out of reach. If that had been a hard intentional shot to the head, Bledsoe's head would have moved a bit (actually, it might have come off), but he had his eyes downfield, and his head hardly moved until Foley hit him from behind a split second later.

My mind is unchanged. Bad rule, selectively enforced.

I've never been a Bledsoe fan, but I do admire great possession receivers, and Keyshawn made the game for me. He actually had 5 for 65, with 2 TDs. Crayton had the 6 catches and 1 TD, according to my paper. Keyshawn's backward reaching falling down TD reception couldn't have been made by 98% of the receivers in the league, the second TD had the DB's hand on it when he pulled it in, and that catch on the sideline was right out of the Chris Carter playbook. As I recall, the other two catches were on third down. None were easy catches, all routine Keyshawn. Anyone else out there, and Bledsoe might easily have been 12 for 24, one TD, and your team loses (and Truth and Justice would triumph).

cheers

horseback

LStarosta
09-12-2005, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
One morning after a pre-season 6am practice, I was going to my car to go home, when two football kids were walking to their practice. One said to the other:

"Hey, after practice, you wanna drop soap?"

True story.

You mis-heard them. They were talking to you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're probably right... My hot legs in short running shorts can bring the gayest out of anyone, no matter how big the shoulder pads they're wearing.

horseback
09-12-2005, 05:01 PM
LStarosta, I ran the mile in the low fours (under 4:15) fairly consistantly from my mid teens to my mid thirties, but distance running is for the young and/or hollow boned. I now have the arthritis in my feet and achy knees to prove it.

I dabbled in triathlons in the early days of that sport, and was occasionally used by some friends in the SEAL teams to humble the new trainees ("You guys think you're good runners and swimmers? -We know a scrawny little electronics tech who can wax your behinds..."). Having done both competitively, I can say that high level distance swimming is harder than distance running, and it doesn't leave you looking like a concentration camp survivor. Plus, it doesn't break down your joints.

I have it on good authority, however, that the REAL studs wrestle or play water polo (being from Arizona, I didn't get to play water polo-the local schools didn't like the way the horses left a ring in the pool).

cheers

horseback

PS-all the D-linemen in my high school's football team were on the swim team (mostly butterfly specialists)-we were in the national top twenty five in in both sports in 1970.

LStarosta
09-12-2005, 05:32 PM
Swimming is tough, too, I agree 100%. In fact, I would agree with you that it's tougher than running, but that's probably since I haven't trained for swimming, but rather for running.

Wow 4:15! That's a pretty impressive time! But to say that the mile is the definition of distance isn't right, in my opinion. I mean, in track, it is a distance event, but to the long distance runner, the mile is more of a combination of a sprint and a distance race. It is a tough event, especially for that reason, but I think when you start getting into 5000 meter races and up, that's true distance running right there... And ohh man... Marathons... Once I'm done with my collegiate running, I will definitely begin training for Marathons!

And I agree, running is devestating on your body. I am just coming off of three simultaneous injuries (Achilles Tendonitis, and IT band inflammation in both legs at the hip). But I just love running... It's amazing how much of a different person you can become if you learn to conquer your mind. While you have to be in shape to run well, the very act of running relies more on one's mentality and the ability to supress and ignore pain and physiological alarms of the body (thirst, soreness, fatigue etc.). Conquer your mind, and your body will follow.

Football is a fun game to watch, but to me it's just that... a game.

In fact, I used to love football at one point in my life, but then I discovered running. As I said, it has made me a more disciplined and focused person, athletically and otherwise. And again, while football is a game, running is a lifestyle. There is no off-season for running. It becomes a part of your lifestyle.. And no I don't mean sitting down on sundays with junk food and beer to spectate... I mean going out every day... twice a day... and pushing yourself to succeed, whether it be raining and thundering, or smeltering hot. So I guess I'd like to say sorry if I offended any football fans' egos by calling their sport gay. But I know that the average high school football player wouldn't have the guts to go out and do what we do every day, whether during XC or Track season or off. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

BTW, if you think distance running makes you look like a holocaust victim, take a look at Pre. He's one ripped motherf*cker. And I mean that in a completely heterosexual way.

BaldieJr
09-12-2005, 05:44 PM
Slicks a cowboys fan? WTF?

We can argue monday. I hope Ramsey can play http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LStarosta
09-12-2005, 05:51 PM
Oh btw.. Just read that you did triathlons. You are one sick mofo. Mad props to you, man! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

horseback
09-12-2005, 06:02 PM
Ran Cross Country and swam in high school, but the mile is a recognizable standard. Never went farther than a half marathon (there are limits to my lunacy), but I always seemed to be living someplace too warm to enjoy anything but the competition. I went home to Phoenix on leave one summer while the Navy had me stationed in Hawaii--my morning 5 mile run almost turned out to be fatal...

Swimming requires the same bloody minded determination, but is, or at least was, much more technique oriented. At the international level, the taller swimmers tend to dominate (I'm 5'9"), but at the levels I swam at, good technique allowed me to stay with and eventually break down the supposedly 'more gifted' guys (well, except for the two guys who went on to medal at Munich in '72).

Swimming 1600m in under twenty minutes is much more of an accomplishment than running a 4:15 mile in my experience, but I have the impression that you live in the Northwest, in a more ideal running climate (plus, you don't have to compete with the Indian kids from the high altitude areas-you know, the ones with huge chests and really sharp elbows who try to sucker you into running down a mule deer in August-tribal initiation my @ss!).

Shoe technology has improved quite a bit too. Just stay away from running on steel decks, cement sidewalks and high crowned roads, and you won't get an internal weather report when you wake up in your fifties...

cheers

horseback

SlickStick
09-12-2005, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
One might think that you've never tried to simultaneously obstruct a potential pass (Bledsoe had his arm cocked to throw) and grab somebody by the opposite shoulder while being shoved backwards. The guy (Luis Castillo, our 1B pick -he's gonna be a good one)was trying to get his right hand down on Bledsoe's left shoulder before he was shoved back out of reach. If that had been a hard intentional shot to the head, Bledsoe's head would have moved a bit (actually, it might have come off), but he had his eyes downfield, and his head hardly moved until Foley hit him from behind a split second later.

My mind is unchanged. Bad rule, selectively enforced.

I've never been a Bledsoe fan, but I do admire great possession receivers, and Keyshawn made the game for me. He actually had 5 for 65, with 2 TDs. Crayton had the 6 catches and 1 TD, according to my paper. Keyshawn's backward reaching falling down TD reception couldn't have been made by 98% of the receivers in the league, the second TD had the DB's hand on it when he pulled it in, and that catch on the sideline was right out of the Chris Carter playbook. As I recall, the other two catches were on third down. None were easy catches, all routine Keyshawn. Anyone else out there, and Bledsoe might easily have been 12 for 24, one TD, and your team loses (and Truth and Justice would triumph).

cheers

horseback

The guy was watching his arm as he slapped Beldsoe upside the head. He was pushing the lineman back into the QB. However, you're missing the point. It's a foul whenever it's seen. Sometimes the ref doesn't have the angle. There is no incidental with that rule, period.

Edited Keyshawn's TDs, saw 2, typed 1, and perhaps more emphasis should be put on his performance than I gave him. He did make some nice catches. Thanks for noticing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

However, my happiness about the game would be because he hasn't quite been able to live up to his potential with Dallas since joining, because we haven't had a decent QB to throw to him.

Drew's performance was the one thing Dallas has been missing the most over the past several years, a QB that can get the ball to the receivers and doesn't turn it over. And the defense did what it had to do, shutting down LT, effectively enough, but the secondary played better than I expected, thankfully.

Owlsphone
09-12-2005, 06:44 PM
Hey Slick, your boys in green are almost on... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SlickStick
09-12-2005, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Slicks a cowboys fan? WTF?

We can argue monday. I hope Ramsey can play http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ya, that was a ******** move. He should be fined.

However, down to brass tacks and your Redskins obsession. That was a squeaker yesterday and I'm feeling good about this week. Thought you knew me a Cowboys fan, hehe.

Here's a guy who had a big day Sunday against the Chargers, too. Made some great stops at the line of scrimmage or better. The heir apparent to Woodson has arrived at Strong Safety. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://www.clearchannel.com/Corporate/Diversity/RoWil-4.jpg

SlickStick
09-12-2005, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Owlsphone:
Hey Slick, your boys in green are almost on... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

They were fighting during pre-game warm-ups already, lol!!! This is gonna be a good one.

Here we go Falcons, here we go....boomp boomp!!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Owlsphone
09-12-2005, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Owlsphone:
Hey Slick, your boys in green are almost on... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

They were fighting during pre-game warm-ups already, lol!!! This is gonna be a good one.

Here we go Falcons, here we go....boomp boomp!!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, they said they "made up". They're so full of it.

EDIT: hahaha I just saw the replay of the fight during pregame. The ref threw the flag! LMAO

EDIT#2: With all this punching and pushing, $20 says there's another fight before the end...

Ominae-
09-12-2005, 08:39 PM
football is fun, or should I say, American football is fun,(I however dont find it so fun to watch...) but I'll stick to what I grew up on, rugby. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Owlsphone
09-12-2005, 10:41 PM
Whipped this up real quick after the game.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Owlsphone/Eagleschoke.jpg

han freak solo
09-13-2005, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
You're probably right... My hot legs in short running shorts can bring the gayest out of anyone, no matter how big the shoulder pads they're wearing.

Ooooh, baby!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

SlickStick
09-13-2005, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by Owlsphone:
Whipped this up real quick after the game.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Owlsphone/Eagleschoke.jpg

It would be too easy to jump this one and rub salt in the wounds, Owlsphone, but this season is off to a very good start from my perspective. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The game had some exciting moments, a few good plays and the best outcome possible, but after McNabb took that helmet to the sternum, he just wasn't right for the rest of the game.

Clan_Graham
09-13-2005, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Slicks a cowboys fan? WTF?

We can argue monday. I hope Ramsey can play http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Gibbs already pulled the hook.
Ramsey out.
Brunell in.

Go Skins!

Bearcat99
09-13-2005, 08:38 AM
Leave it to some of you numtards from across the water to turn this into a my Euro balls are bigger than your star spangled ones... dont you guys have anything else to do? You complain about our movies, our politics, our football isnt "real", our planes are overmodelled.. our women... well everybody likes everybody's women here it seems.. LMAO.. C'mon guys.... get over it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Now having diplomatically addressed that...

NFC.. the Giants have potential this year.... The Deadskins are so iffy... and I live in the DC area.... The Eagles are looking tough but they got spanked by Atlanta last night.....

In the AFC....... http://www.dashmats4less.com/048-steelers.gif

SlickStick
09-13-2005, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Leave it to some of you numtards from across the water to turn this into a my Euro balls are bigger than your star spangled ones... dont you guys have anything else to do? You complain about our movies, our politics, our football isnt "real", our planes are overmodelled.. our women... well everybody likes everybody's women here it seems.. LMAO.. C'mon guys.... get over it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Now having diplomatically addressed that...

NFC.. the Giants have potential this year.... The Deadskins are so iffy... and I live in the DC area.... The Eagles are looking tough but they got spanked by Atlanta last night.....

In the AFC....... http://www.dashmats4less.com/048-steelers.gif

I hear ya, Bearcat. We entertained the "football" issue for the beginning, but this is an NFL thread, let them make no mistake about it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I didn't expect the Steelers to run as well this past Sunday, but I forgot they were playing the Titans when I first posted about their running game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Clan, I'll have to read up on the status, he must have a concussion I'm guessing? Edit: Ah, neck sprain.

Brunell is still a capable back-up. Plus, sometimes it doesn't matter how good or bad one team is in rivalry games. It's almost always a knock-down drag'em out fight. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.dallas-cowboys-players.com/images/Football-Dallas-Cowboys.jpg

han freak solo
09-13-2005, 10:26 AM
Ugh. Cowboys fans.

We Houstonians still gotta deal with y'all. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://www.lssdigital.com/OilersLogo.gif

SlickStick
09-13-2005, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Ugh. Cowboys fans.

We Houstonians still gotta deal with y'all. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://www.lssdigital.com/OilersLogo.gif

Hey, shouldn't you have moved to Tennessee?!?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Are you a Texans fan now? hehehe

WarWolfe_1
09-13-2005, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Ugh. Cowboys fans.

We Houstonians still gotta deal with y'all. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://www.lssdigital.com/OilersLogo.gif


What a beatiful sight.......*Sigh*

I've never watched a Tatins game even when they were still the oilers,I hated losing my team.

But we've got this now!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a244/WarWolfe/tnback.jpg

han freak solo
09-13-2005, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:

Are you a Texans fan now? hehehe

I'm workin' on it. I watch 'em, but my heart ain't in 'em like the Oilers had me. I miss the Pittsburgh/Houston rivalry the most.

At least, the Texans will be playin' the Steelers next.

WarWolfe_1 said,
But we've got this now!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a244/WarWolfe/tnback.jpg

I'm sure my kids will love the Texans like I loved the Oilers!

Oh yeah, I was at the Texans' first regular season game where the Texans beat the Cowboys! Ouch! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

SlickStick
09-13-2005, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:

Are you a Texans fan now? hehehe

I'm workin' on it. I watch 'em, but my heart ain't in 'em like the Oilers had me. I miss the Pittsburgh/Houston rivalry the most.

At least, the Texans will be playin' the Steelers next.

WarWolfe_1 said,
But we've got this now!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a244/WarWolfe/tnback.jpg

I'm sure my kids will love the Texans like I loved the Oilers!

Oh yeah, I was at the Texans' first regular season game where the Texans beat the Cowboys! Ouch! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hehe, why yes they did. I took allot of harrassment for Dallas losing to that expansion team back in 2002. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

D*a*m*n*e*d post-Aikman years have been brutal on us Cowboys fans. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Almost as bad as the misery of the 80's before Da Boyz returned to glory in the 90's. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif And if it wasn't for the salary cap coming into football in 1993/1994, Dallas would have won quite a few more championships in the 90's.

The talent was deep on those early 90's teams. Even to the point of almost having two full starting defensive lines to sub in, keeping everyone fresh, as well as a host of LBs and back-up Secondary/special Teams players.

Wow, that Jimmie Johnson sure knew how to build a team. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

WarWolfe_1
09-13-2005, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:

Are you a Texans fan now? hehehe

I'm workin' on it. I watch 'em, but my heart ain't in 'em like the Oilers had me. I miss the Pittsburgh/Houston rivalry the most.

At least, the Texans will be playin' the Steelers next.

WarWolfe_1 said,
But we've got this now!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a244/WarWolfe/tnback.jpg

I'm sure my kids will love the Texans like I loved the Oilers!

Oh yeah, I was at the Texans' first regular season game where the Texans beat the Cowboys! Ouch! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I got to be at the first Opening of the roof at relaint stadium. A beautiful staduim, makes the astrodom look like a ant hill.

biggs222
09-13-2005, 02:52 PM
akers missed 2 Fgs thats sad... i cant blame him for the loss tho. trotter shouldnt have been thrown out he didnt throw a "punch" and the spearing of mcnabb should have been called, it was obviously a bad hit.

reid called bad plays. and the good ones he didnt use enough (screen to westbrook).

on the flip side, Dawkins is the F****** man!!!

im not worried at all 2 years ago we started 0-2 and we went to the NFC championship.

it cracks me up how much people love to hate the eagles.

SlickStick
09-13-2005, 03:00 PM
More people love to hate the Cowboys, be sure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

The current Eagles have proven four straight years that they don't have what it takes to see things through to the end. 3 straight NFC Championship losses that were almost soley McNabb's fault and a losing SuperBowl in the 4th year, that was also his fault.

Dallas started 0-2 in 1993 and won the SuperBowl, so yes, 0-1 is not the end of the world. Let's just hope it's the beginning of the end for the Eagles, hehehe. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

PS - You can thank Buddy Ryan and cheap, scumbag players like Andre Waters that got people, other than the Cowboy's fans who have always hated the Eagles, hating the Eagles. I was at the game where Irvin went down for good. He was wrapped in a tackle, 3 inches from being down and he was speared in the back of the neck by another player.

Ooh, I do love hating the Eagles. As I posted earlier in the thread, the Red Sox won one finally, I guess it's not out of the realm of possibilities that Philly might someday win one, too. I would think the first thing the Eagles need to do is find a QB that DOESN'T choke in the big game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gifâ

han freak solo
09-13-2005, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:

PS - You can thank Buddy Ryan and cheap, scumbag players like Andre Waters that got people hating the Eagles.

Good ole Ryan. I remember watchin' a game when he was Defensive coordinator for the Oilers and he took a swing at the Oilers' Offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride for not doing something right offensively. I couldn't beleive that old f@rt was starting a fight!

Nothing like team spirit! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

SlickStick
09-13-2005, 06:01 PM
His assignment as Eagles' head coach capped off an already bad aura of a team of dirty players since the team's inception. So, my hatred of silver and green is deep-rooted in the past, present and future. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

I have a spin on that age-old Cowboy-hater's T-shirt:

"I like two NFL teams. The Cowboys and anybody who is playing the Eagles." http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Best I post a quick blast from the past to help Da Boyz keep the streak against the Skins alive. Emmitt rushed for more 100yd games versus the Redskins than any other team, IIRC.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/nfl/2001/1015/photo/a_emmitt_i.jpg

Edit: You'll also notice in the picture, it's only the evil Redskin grabbing the facemask, while Emmitt is using a legal stiff-arm sayin, "Get off me, son!" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

horseback
09-13-2005, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:

PS - You can thank Buddy Ryan and cheap, scumbag players like Andre Waters that got people hating the Eagles.

Good ole Ryan. I remember watchin' a game when he was Defensive coordinator for the Oilers and he took a swing at the Oilers' Offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride for not doing something right offensively. I couldn't beleive that old f@rt was starting a fight!

Nothing like team spirit! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Warren Moon made that clown Gilbride look a whole lot smarter than he was; only Ryan Leaf is more likely to be booed on San Diego's streets. After Gilbride screwed up the Chargers for three seasons, I developed a much deeper respect for ol' Buddy. Whose quarterback is Gilbride screwing up now?

cheers

horseback

SlickStick
09-13-2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by han freak solo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:

PS - You can thank Buddy Ryan and cheap, scumbag players like Andre Waters that got people hating the Eagles.

Good ole Ryan. I remember watchin' a game when he was Defensive coordinator for the Oilers and he took a swing at the Oilers' Offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride for not doing something right offensively. I couldn't beleive that old f@rt was starting a fight!

Nothing like team spirit! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Warren Moon made that clown Gilbride look a whole lot smarter than he was; only Ryan Leaf is more likely to be booed on San Diego's streets. After Gilbride screwed up the Chargers for three seasons, I developed a much deeper respect for ol' Buddy. Whose quarterback is Gilbride screwing up now?

cheers

horseback </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

horseback does have a point. I'm thinking there were many coaches and players that wanted to take a swing at Gilbride at one time or another. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

WarWolfe_1
09-14-2005, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by horseback:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by han freak solo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:

PS - You can thank Buddy Ryan and cheap, scumbag players like Andre Waters that got people hating the Eagles.

Good ole Ryan. I remember watchin' a game when he was Defensive coordinator for the Oilers and he took a swing at the Oilers' Offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride for not doing something right offensively. I couldn't beleive that old f@rt was starting a fight!

Nothing like team spirit! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Warren Moon made that clown Gilbride look a whole lot smarter than he was; only Ryan Leaf is more likely to be booed on San Diego's streets. After Gilbride screwed up the Chargers for three seasons, I developed a much deeper respect for ol' Buddy. Whose quarterback is Gilbride screwing up now?

cheers

horseback </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

horseback does have a point. I'm thinking there were many coaches and players that wanted to take a swing at Gilbride at one time or another. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would have, no doubt.

han freak solo
09-14-2005, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by WarWolfe_1:
I would have, no doubt.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

SlickStick
09-14-2005, 08:19 PM
Here's thinking that the Skins are gonna see allot of this guy on monday night. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/01-05/0130cowjones.jpg

SlickStick
09-16-2005, 09:13 AM
Week 1 Cowboys Game Balls

Offense: Drew Bledsoe, 18 of 24 226yds, 3 TD

Defense: Anthony Henry, 12 Tackles (10 solo), 1 INT

As much as I love when Big D is on primetime, it means I have to watch other "filler" games this weekend, hehe.

Chargers @ Broncos and Chiefs @ Oakland looking good in the AFC for some entertainment. Also, Miami @ Jets is always an interesting affair.

In the NFC, Falcons @ Seahawks could be exciting and I'll be keeping a close eye on our silver and green enemies with San Fran @ Philadelphia. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

woofiedog
09-16-2005, 02:30 PM
Pat's and the Panthers... 1:00pm est. Oh Yah! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

SlickStick
09-17-2005, 12:18 PM
Panthers were staggered by the Week 1 loss, but I'm expecting their defense to step it up a notch and hopefully impede the Patriots' attempt at circumventing more of Dallas' SuperBowl records. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

woofiedog
09-17-2005, 02:51 PM
Pat's had way to many penalties in their last game againest Oakland.
But I'm sure that will be dealt with by Belichick.
Tomorrows game will be a better gauge of how the Pat's game will be this season.
And next week will be againest the Steeler's... now that will be some Kick*ss Football... For Sure!
Football... Oh Yah!