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LuckyBoy1
02-23-2005, 12:25 PM
If you have a 2.8 PIV or AMD same/same and a 9800 Pro or better, have 512 MB of RAM or more and you like modern aircraft, I would say it is time to rediscover Lock-On before you can no longer find a copy of the game locally for sale. I'm not much for jet games, but the game itself, as far as I've seen... runs!

By the way, it is a Direct X type game.

LuckyBoy1
02-23-2005, 12:25 PM
If you have a 2.8 PIV or AMD same/same and a 9800 Pro or better, have 512 MB of RAM or more and you like modern aircraft, I would say it is time to rediscover Lock-On before you can no longer find a copy of the game locally for sale. I'm not much for jet games, but the game itself, as far as I've seen... runs!

By the way, it is a Direct X type game.

flockzap
02-23-2005, 02:49 PM
The Flamming Cliffs demo is awesome

Flockzap

LuckyBoy1
02-23-2005, 03:01 PM
And the good news is yes, they will be selling an ad-on soon and UBI will have nothing to do with it!

Longjocks
02-23-2005, 04:35 PM
Funny, I just told a mate that I had to get around to learning LOMAC now that I have a rig that can play it well. It's been sitting there gathering dust for a while now.

TAGERT.
02-23-2005, 06:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LuckyBoy1:
If you have a 2.8 PIV or AMD same/same and a 9800 Pro or better, have 512 MB of RAM or more and you like modern aircraft, I would say it is time to rediscover Lock-On before you can no longer find a copy of the game locally for sale. I'm not much for jet games, but the game itself, as far as I've seen... runs!

By the way, it is a Direct X type game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
IL2-PF is the best WWII sim made in the last 10 years

LockOn is the best MODERN sim made in the last 10 years

If they can fix some of the strange warps you see in LockOn Im sure it will become more popular online.

The imersion factor is top notch due to the amount of detail and just general things going on (cars, trucks, school busses, etc) is amazing! Ships that actually move in a DF, brillent AI, and very detailed map.. But, they only have one map, so I guess it should be detailed &lt;G&gt;

I love LockOn, I only wish more played it! I hoping Flaming Cliffs will bring more to the table.

Yimmy
02-23-2005, 07:29 PM
Hi Longjocks.

I remember going to the Lock-On site a while back, and got the impression that it was yet to be released, this was only 6 odd months ago - did the game die a quick death, or have I got the wrong end of the stick, and its been out for ages?

I have been thinking of getting a modern air combat game you see, and Lock-on / LOMAC is the only one I have heard of, are there any others I should consider, be they released or being released within the next year or two?

LuckyBoy1
02-24-2005, 12:44 AM
No, the game died a death BoB will probably encounter. Everyone whined for this eye candy and that eye candy and they got what they asked for! It is just now, like two years later that computers are finally catching up with the game and the second patching that UBI apparently had nothing to do with helped quite a bit.

So, for jet jockey's this Lock-On game is a steal at $19.99 U.S new and even less used.

FI.Snaphoo
02-24-2005, 12:55 AM
Lock-On, I would have to agree, is amazing. I've had it for all of two days, and been shot down so I went back to my props where I can just hop in and fly.

It will take me a while before I can even turn on the guns on those planes. Missiles? Don't get me started. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

LOMAC is very complex compared to the last modern airsim I tried. But then, I stopped "simming" for a long time. Worth the money, but definite learning curve.

Yimmy
02-24-2005, 09:03 AM
Wouldn't run on my system anyway I guess....

SlickStick
02-24-2005, 11:02 AM
What's a J-E-T?!? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

How does it fly, it has no prop like the GOOD planes?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SlickStick
02-24-2005, 11:05 AM
Ohhhh, you must have meant these Jets:

http://img151.exs.cx/img151/9358/jets4xl.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

ElAurens
02-24-2005, 11:08 AM
Life is too short to deal with so many buttons...

The reason I uninstalled it the first time.

BVR = BORING


But you guys with the patience and time for it enjoy.

I'll stick to my P40.

SlickStick
02-24-2005, 12:20 PM
Any plane that targets the enemy for you, tracks it and all you have to do is push a button to destroy it with a guided missile, holds absolutely no challenge for me.

Give me a prop, that constant engine growl and the gunnery to pick my enemy apart as slowly or as quickly as possible and I'm a happy camper.

Real men use MGs and cannons to kill bogeys. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

swambast
02-24-2005, 12:34 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

GAU-8
02-24-2005, 12:40 PM
BVR... doesnt always happen. if you think jets never see each other,while engaged, your quite wrong.
as close as IL-2 in distance, but at greater speed.

try it again.

Hristo_
02-24-2005, 12:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Any plane that targets the enemy for you, tracks it and all you have to do is push a button to destroy it with a guided missile, holds absolutely no challenge for me.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's an incredibly shortsighted statement, you know.

Your plane may target the enemy, but enemy's plane also targets you !

Just as you have missiles, so does the enemy.

Beating other people in Lock-On requires just as much knowledge and practice as in any prop sim, if not more.

WW2 tactics still apply, along with new approaches. Mastering Lock-On was never about pushing a button, but careful planning and executing combat. As someone who has played both WW2 sims for years and Lock-On since it came out, I can state that both sims are very deep, with Lock-On being far more complex regarding avionics and combat engagements.

indylavi
02-24-2005, 12:59 PM
Hey you haven't seen a challenge until you try to dodge 3 AIM-120's coming at you at over Mach 2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
I love Lock On. I was sad it died the way it did. I think if they would've done the F-18 it would've had better sales. UBI just never gave it a chance http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
The A-10 is a great plane. If your a ground pounder you can't go wrong there. Coming in a treetop level to unload your GAU-8 into some T-80's. It doesn't get much better than that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Plus as they said it's $20. I bought 2 more copies to give to friends

sgilewicz
02-24-2005, 01:09 PM
I have LOMAC but my PC is just a bit short on capabilty so I am waiting a few more months to start it. For all you folks who think modern jet warfare is dull I would counter with my experience several years back with Falcon 4.0. Although it did take me one full year to work my way through the exquisitely detailed training missions, once I started the campaigns I was truly capable of handling all aspects of modern air warfare (you would be surprised by how much is applicable to our beloved IL2FB!). My only complaint (but a big one) was the limited time compression in flight. Some missions lasted well over an hour which makes it tough for those with limited evening recreation time. All in all just fly what ever suits you but try and keep an open mind. Have fun.

SlickStick
02-24-2005, 01:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hristo_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Any plane that targets the enemy for you, tracks it and all you have to do is push a button to destroy it with a guided missile, holds absolutely no challenge for me.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's an incredibly shortsighted statement, you know.

Your plane may target the enemy, but enemy's plane also targets you !

Just as you have missiles, so does the enemy.

Beating other people in Lock-On requires just as much knowledge and practice as in any prop sim, if not more.

WW2 tactics still apply, along with new approaches. Mastering Lock-On was never about pushing a button, but careful planning and executing combat. As someone who has played both WW2 sims for years and Lock-On since it came out, I can state that both sims are very deep, with Lock-On being far more complex regarding avionics and combat engagements. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good points, Hristo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I was just teasing above and I know that Lock-On is very in-depth tactically, I just love the WWII props better and love the up-close, slow dogfighting, and the absolute REQUIREMENT to be good at gunnery to bag your bogey. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

PBNA-Boosher
02-24-2005, 01:58 PM
One thing that would make Lock-On even more incredible would be civilian air traffic.

Weather_Man
02-24-2005, 02:14 PM
I'm not getting sucked into that game again. Too complex for this wee mind. I felt like breaking something when I played it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

james_ander
02-24-2005, 05:16 PM
I don't understand the statement that LOMAC is dead. Surely a flight sim with a major add-on about to be released is not dead. It might be dead as far as Ubi is concerned but I don't think Eagle Dynamics is about to go away.

I think LOMAC is a very good sim, although I have a hard time getting into jets. I got to the point in LOMAC where I could operate the avionics competently enough to win about 70% of head to head dogfights against AI. I was able to evade missiles fairly well, but never got to the point where I could hold my own in a mission. I always mean to get back to LOMAC, but end up getting sucked in to IL2.

Obi_Kwiet
02-24-2005, 08:06 PM
I dnled the demo. I spent forever trying to figure what every thing did but it was just so complected. I couldn't;t figure out how to zoom in on the HUD, let lone starting the missile firing sequence. One a missile come at you how the heck do you avoid it!? You can drop chaff and maneuver all you want, but you have no idea where it's coming from and you get nailed. Very complicated.

TAGERT.
02-24-2005, 09:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Any plane that targets the enemy for you, tracks it and all you have to do is push a button to destroy it with a guided missile, holds absolutely no challenge for me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There is a challenge, it is differnt, but it is hardly auto track push of a button.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Give me a prop, that constant engine growl and the gunnery to pick my enemy apart as slowly or as quickly as possible and I'm a happy camper. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Different strokes for differnt folks.. But dont fool yourself into thinking it is some kind of sit back and let the plane fly for you. In that only a fool would.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Real men use MGs and cannons to kill bogeys. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>LOL! Hardly!

Longjocks
02-25-2005, 02:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Any plane that targets the enemy for you, tracks it and all you have to do is push a button to destroy it with a guided missile, holds absolutely no challenge for me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Wow! LOMAC has a new plane that takes radar & search ops out of the player's hands, and new missiles that perform perfectly regardless of altitude and energy state?! Why didn't anybody tell me?!?!

Sorry for the sarcasm, but that statement simply knocked my brain for six and I can't think of anything witty to say.

WTE_Ibis
02-25-2005, 05:03 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
One thing that would make Lock-On even more incredible would be civilian air traffic.[/QUOTe
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You need slow defenceless targets m8? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

MEGILE
02-25-2005, 05:12 AM
LOMAC owns.
Best $30 flight model out there in v1.1

COOPs are more immersive than anything else you can do on a PC.

Capt.England
02-25-2005, 07:54 AM
Still full of bugs, like getting shot down by your own sides SAM's, pickle button for changing targets on the A10 still don't work, plus more bugs that should of been fixed in the last patch. One developer's games that I will not buy from again!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

TAGERT.
02-25-2005, 09:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt.England:
Still full of bugs, like getting shot down by your own sides SAM's, pickle button for changing targets on the A10 still don't work, plus more bugs that should of been fixed in the last patch. One developer's games that I will not buy from again!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is a good point.. or should I say points? I feel kind of guilty now knowing I was enjoying myself while all these bugs existed.. With that said, could you point me to or provide a link to a mordern jet sim that has no bugs what so ever. Thanks! [/sarcasim]

MEGILE
02-25-2005, 10:03 AM
SAM bug as been fixed in 1.1

SlickStick
02-25-2005, 10:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Longjocks:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Any plane that targets the enemy for you, tracks it and all you have to do is push a button to destroy it with a guided missile, holds absolutely no challenge for me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Wow! LOMAC has a new plane that takes radar & search ops out of the player's hands, and new missiles that perform perfectly regardless of altitude and energy state?! Why didn't anybody tell me?!?!

Sorry for the sarcasm, but that statement simply knocked my brain for six and I can't think of anything witty to say. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was referring to modern jets on the whole, not LOMAC in particular. I figured you had some of those modern jets in there, too. I just don't have an interest in jets, so I guess I should have looked closer at LOMAC's planeset before making that statement.

TAGERT wrote: "blah, blah, blah"

YAWN.

altstiff
02-25-2005, 10:15 AM
I was a skeptic of lock on and swore I would not buy it. Then I seen it for $10 CDN last year and grabbed one. It is a very cool sim.

I'm not one for shooting a sidewinder at a guy 5km away, that's not my idea of a dogfight. Dog fights are meant to be fought in prop planes but the ground pounding in LOMAC is as cool as IL-2 FB!

TAGERT.
02-25-2005, 06:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
TAGERT wrote: "blah, blah, blah" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I love it when I leave the speachless!

Longjocks
02-25-2005, 11:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
I was referring to modern jets on the whole, not LOMAC in particular. I figured you had some of those modern jets in there, too. I just don't have an interest in jets, so I guess I should have looked closer at LOMAC's planeset before making that statement. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
All is cool, dude. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif