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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 01:55 AM
I love the plane, but all my friends complain that it's an unfair plane, having unfair maneuverability, arnaments, and speed. Is this view shared among the general community?

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 01:55 AM
I love the plane, but all my friends complain that it's an unfair plane, having unfair maneuverability, arnaments, and speed. Is this view shared among the general community?

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Message Edited on 06/21/0305:59PM by vecdran

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 01:56 AM
Its performance matches what it could do historically...it might have even been a little faster/better climbing in real life.

However, it is at the mercy of a good 109K pilot.




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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 01:58 AM
unfair maneuverability? nope - they really could turn like that.

unfair armament? hardly. a single 20 and a single 50, both of which have ~10 seconds of firing time

unfair speed? as if! the thing falls apart if you try to go faster than 750.

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 01:59 AM
Nope it is not unfair, it is just deadly in the hands of a skilled pilot. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 02:00 AM
I think of the Yak3 as a fast little sports car. Wonderful plane to fly.

But, as always, its NOT the plane....its the pilot.

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 02:01 AM
It's armament is actually poor. You only have 11 seconds of ammo. It does turn good, but you can't use it all, because you'll black out.

The late 109's are faster, climb better, and have better armament.

The Yak3 has two important things going for it for a noob. It's very east to fly, and it takes alot of damage. Much more than it should.

The only thing I really like about it,is the good view it has out of the cockpit.

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 02:04 AM
Is not unfair, is well enough modelled, but it has to little ammo( for my taste-I preffer the La7), and is not as stronger as an 109( it start's to fall apart only at more than 1000 Km/h, while an Yak3 or a La7 are pieces at more than 850)./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 02:04 AM
I take back the arnaments one.

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 02:07 AM
Small fighter, only 2100kg empty, Yak~3 paid a heavy price for that performance--only 600km range--short for a late war prop fighter. A Japanese Zero this is not.

FB Yak~3 simmers don't pay that price, especially in the 50km Ace arcade online dogfight maps.

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 02:07 AM
Actually the Yak3/La7 fall apart at 750 km/h. Russian balsa wood./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 02:10 AM
it's good for getting used to, but if you're like me you'll want to get another plane with some slightly different characteristics, and more importantly, more guns! i can't stand conserving ammo. i wanna start unloading on these guys.

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 03:28 AM
Actually no plane could turn like it does in fb "Bat turns" the fuselage couldnt take the stress. One of the most important aspects of flying, The yak3 however was extremely manueverable an excellent dogfighter up to 8000 meters but incrediably weak and did not take much damage.

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Read a book about yak3's and you learn the germans weakness



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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 05:05 AM
i prefer the la7 to the yak. i never liked flying the yak-3 im not sure why.

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 05:06 AM
P-39s munch on it's wooden carcass /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 05:09 AM
Yak3 was a much bigger problem for LW back in IL2 days, mostly for Pk`s. Now all late 109`s can hold its own if flown right IMO. Nothing uber, but easy to fly, more forgiving i`d say.

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 08:52 AM
Yak-3 is nowhere near "unfair advantage." You don't have much firepower, and very little ammo. When you run out of ammo (and you will quickly), you have to return to base. This is a problem since many late war fighters are faster than Yak-3 so when you disengage and your enemy pursues, you have to evade and be creative to make it back to base. Also you will get pilot killed alot in any Yak, more than in any other plane.

As someone else said I don't believe any real life plane could perform/turn like Yak-3 in FB but this plane is still far from "unfair advantage." Yak-3 is a great 1 vs. 1 plane, but in multiple aircraft engagements, late 109's and La-7 are better planes IMHO, and after patch the FW-190D and A-9 may be as well.

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 09:31 AM
kyrule2 wrote:
- Also you
- will get pilot killed alot in any Yak, more than in
- any other plane.

Not true. La5/7 series is far worse about it.


Theo wrote:

unfair armament? hardly. a single 20 and a single 50


Not true. single 20mm and 2 x 7.62mm mgs.



The Yak9 series have the singe MG. And the only reason I dont fly the Yak3 much anymore is that I got bored getting kills in it. The only fun now is going Yak3 v Yak3.



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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 09:43 AM
GR142_Astro wrote:

And the only
- reason I dont fly the Yak3 much anymore is that I
- got bored getting kills in it. The only fun now is
- going Yak3 v Yak3.


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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:00 AM
I think the problem with a Yak-3 or La-7 is that you are left with little choice of plane. if you want an even fight: You either get another Yak/La (whenever possible) or you get a late 109G. Basically if forcess you to '44/45 planeset, when war was "unfair" against the LW.

One of the things I dislike online is that most servers offer an open planeset, and most people go for late war super planes like 109K or La-7/Yak-3. Maybe it's because the patch is not out yet, and some guns are useless agains the LaGG or I-16, but I wish servers gave more variety of planeset based on years.

As I see things, setting it to '44/'45 is unbalanced for LW, the same way '41/'42 is (or will) be unbalanced to VVS. Somethimes this can be good (not I said unbalanced, not unfair), but I feel most people go for yak-3 because its there, its easy and it flies amazingly,(its cannon seems more effective than 3 in La-7). Smae for La-7.

I personally like earlier war planes, but againts the hordes or La-7, Yak-3 or 109G late, I stand little chance on a B-239, a P-40, a Yak1 or a I-16 (when it gets fixed).

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:36 AM
Astro, actually Yak-3 has 1x 20mm cannon and 2x 12.7mm machine guns. And in my experience I get pk'd much more in Yak than La. Just my experience though, maybe different for others.

I definitely agree with you Xanty, open planesets are much less fun. I find '42 or '43 servers to be MUCH more fun, they are just hard to find. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 11:56 AM
Its a good plane.. only downside is low ammo.. almost anyone can fly this one easily.. that is why I avoid it.. as its too simple for my taste /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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