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RaceguyOSU
12-20-2009, 05:01 PM
Hello everyone. I am building a new PC over the Holidays and need your suggestions. I will have 1 500 GB SATA HD but could add a second.

On my current PC I have 1 HD partitioned as 2 WXP drives, one for OS, programs and data and the second for games. I image all of this to 2 separate external HD's that I cycle off site.

What are your recommendations regarding partitions for the new PC?

Thanks

Ed


Here are the main components:
Windows 7 64-bit Pro OEM
Diamond ATI 5870 1 GB video
i7 920 Intel chip
EVGA X58 SLI LE MB
6 GB OCZDDR3 1600 Three channel ram
WD 500GB SATA black
Corsair TX750W power supply

BigC208
12-20-2009, 05:20 PM
That's going to be a nice setup. Have you allready bought those components? Personally I would wait untill SoW. Even better, wait untill 6 months after it comes out. Than you will know exactly what you need to run the game. I got my current setup at the end of 2006. Thought Sow would be out soon. Still a good rig to run Il2 on for the last 3 years so no regrets. I don't know you financial situation. If you got lots of dough enjoy this built and upgrade it in a year or 2. Either way congrats on your new rig, it's close to what I would get if I built now.

As far as the drives are concerned. I would get a 160GB SSD for the operating system and games and use the 500GB for storage.

CUJO_1970
12-20-2009, 06:25 PM
That's the Intel Chipset and Corsair PS I've been using for a few months now...you will definitely enjoy having them.

Rjel
12-20-2009, 06:48 PM
I would run a second HD just for emergency back ups if for no other reason. Depending on the size of my drives, I always partition them in three equal sizes. It's quicker for me to defrag that way. Don't know if it's a ggod way to go, but it works for me.

You didn't ask, but get as big a power supply as you can afford. Mine is 750w now and runs ok but I'd buy bigger next time. My last one was only 500w and burned up in a years time.

mortoma
12-20-2009, 06:51 PM
I vastly prefer to use totally separate hard drives instead of partitions. It's much safer, hard drives are cheap these days and as long as you don't have more than 3 drives, you won't have heat issues as newer hard drives also run cooler these days. I like to have one big one and two cheaper smaller ones, which is exactly what I have right now.

Main is a 750GB, the one for games is a fast Raptor 150GB and 250GB for general storage of important pictures, docs and Mp3s and such. That truly is the way to go and also a lot easier than partitioning, which can't be undone easily once you have them set up. If Windows goes belly up, all my important stuff is on the other drives.

I also have a 1TB drive in a Thermaltake Black Widow docking station that I can use with both my laptop and my gaming rig. It's kind of like a horrifically gigantic USB stick to me. Just can't take it on trips so easily. It has both USB hookup and ext. SATA capability.

jarink
12-20-2009, 07:22 PM
I also have used a multi-drive setup for several years and swear by it. OS on one drive and all my data on the other (don't forget to move "My Documents"). Reinstall or upgrade the OS? Easy-peasy; don't need to worry about wiping out any of my data. New PC? Pull the drive, pop it in the new PC and all "my stuff" is there ni seconds.

There's really only a couple of minor drawbacks to using multiple drives. They will use a small amount more electricity and generate a bit more heat than a single drive. Many small form factor cases are not really set up for a second (or third, fourth) driver, either. To me, however, the benefits far outweigh these little issues.

Treetop64
12-20-2009, 07:38 PM
Anything but JBOD should be good, as long as you have the juice. However, be careful of the RAID that spreads data for single apps over multiple drives - I forgot which one it is. If one drive gives up the ghost, you lose all data on all the other drives.

p1ngu666
12-21-2009, 12:50 AM
if your buying a new drive, then 1tb-1.5tb is best bang for buck range, I think

SsSsSsSsSnake
12-21-2009, 12:59 AM
i tend to use external usb drives for storage pics songs etc so its not using anything when im playing as itsnot plugged in, enjoy your new system.
sssssssssnake

Ba5tard5word
12-21-2009, 01:17 AM
500 GB will definitely go pretty fast, I got one in February and it's down to 140GB free already and I don't even really have any pictures or whatever.

MD_Titus
12-21-2009, 01:27 PM
^lotta porn movies, no pictures

Urufu_Shinjiro
12-21-2009, 04:59 PM
For storage I'm drooling over this (http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/thecus_n3200pro/).

EnforcerSG
12-21-2009, 06:09 PM
I recently built/upgraded my old computer to a new gaming rig specifically for flight sims. One thing that always annoyed me is how long it took some other flight simulators to load (X-Plane, MSFS).

So I went with 2 150 gb Western Digital Velocoraptors in RAID 0 (stripped). These are the drives that spin at 10000 rpm. So Windows 7 and the flight sim's (and some other games) are on that drive and they load faster than you ever thought possible.

I also bought a single 1 TB hard drive to store stuff (but since I was upgrading I already had everything I wanted backed up). Anything that I really care about I put on the 1TB drive (and in an external hard drive). I also put some games that don't have long load times on that drive. However stuff like system files, game files, even save games, it's not the end of the world if I lose them. Yeah my computer will be down for a few days waiting for parts and reinstalling everything, but I would rather format and start from fresh than try to repair/restore an OS that has been somehow damaged/corrupted. Or load an image that is stale/out of date, or make constant backups. It really isn't that hard and I like having a mostly clean machine. And the extra speed from the RADI 0 is worth the slightly higher risk for me.

I know you asked about hard drive setup, but just some other things to watch out for (in other words, things I did wrong). If you plan on overclocking the Intel i7 920, but a full tower case, not a mid tower. Some of those fans/heatsinks are huge and won't fit in a mid tower. Also if your sticks of memory are next to each other get a fan for the memory. Also, odds are you are smarter than I was, but if your old power supply was modular, and your new one is too, you probably should NOT use the old cables with the new supply. They might fit, but different manufactures arrange the wires differently (this is why I don't have a second 1TB drive).

Urufu_Shinjiro
12-22-2009, 12:32 PM
Along the lines of Enforcers post, if speed in loading the OS and games is important you may want to do some research and buy an SSD (Solid State Disk). Many of these have far superior read/write speeds than regular HDDs, and the random access time is almost non-existent! Now SSD's are expensive (but not as expensive as the Raptors when they first came out) and they have their own concerns that you need to be aware of so do some research, but they are fast becoming a great option for OS/Game drives in performance machines.

Xiolablu3
12-22-2009, 02:17 PM
I personally hate partitions, would rather have two smaller hard drives than one big one partitioned.

Plus you can put a page file on each drive so that it speeds up the system. (If one drive is writing or reading, the system can use the page file on the other one) This will NOT work with one partitioned drive as hte read head can only be in one place.