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relcox
12-21-2008, 08:58 AM
Gutted, looks like the spring of a switch on my Saitek Aviator went and is now stuck as on and the stick has stopped responding to any input, and it's too near to xmas to get a new stick for over a week http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

rnzoli
12-21-2008, 09:45 AM
I fully simpathize with you and draw the same conclusion: true IL-2 fans have a spare joystick, always http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

relcox
12-21-2008, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by rnzoli:
I fully simpathize with you and draw the same conclusion: true IL-2 fans have a spare joystick, always http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

True, had one but gave it to my brother as he needed one, but all is not lost, a good friend says he will lend me his basic stick, so I'll be back flying tomorrow phew http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

K_Freddie
12-21-2008, 11:13 AM
I'm on my way to joining you... My X52 joystick is now 'resetting' itself more often than not. The lights blink like crazy, yet the throttle side is rock solid. It's not a connector or wiring problem - I've checked this, but something I think - to do with the comms between the Throttle and stick.

You know when you're in a critical situation, and you swing the stick.... and nothing happens. Then in that split second delay, the guy behind you fills your plane with lead. you jump up and nearly throw your stick out the window, but common sense get's the better of you... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

na85
12-21-2008, 11:19 AM
That's why you don't buy saitek products.

JG52Uther
12-21-2008, 11:26 AM
CH = One time purchase.

K_Freddie
12-21-2008, 11:36 AM
This is after 2 years of solid wear and tear. I don't 'fly' like the rest of you, I nearly 'break' my stick every time I fly, so I'd think it's lasted well beyond it's lifetime. CH might be a similar quality, but if it doesn't have contactless X/Y axis, it'll break within 3-6 months.
As a comparison, before Saitek I broke 3 Logitek sticks, all within 3 months of purchase.
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DuxCorvan
12-21-2008, 11:58 AM
Now it is the moment to put the PC aside, buy a turkey and visit Bob Cratchit.

Nah, nevermind. Humbug.

relcox
12-21-2008, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
CH = One time purchase.

Would love a CH stick only I don't have a spare 300 to buy the stick/throttle/rudder pedals, unless you of course know how to get me one for the price of a Saitek?

JG52Uther
12-21-2008, 12:14 PM
You could get a Saitek throttle quadrant,thats what I did.Its only 250 then LOL!
The pedals are around 3 years old now,and the stick is a year old.Both as good as the day I got them.
If you think along the lines of NEVER having to buy another stick or pedals (hopefully) then they work out pretty good VFM.

relcox
12-21-2008, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
You could get a Saitek throttle quadrant,thats what I did.Its only 250 then LOL!
The pedals are around 3 years old now,and the stick is a year old.Both as good as the day I got them.
If you think along the lines of NEVER having to buy another stick or pedals (hopefully) then they work out pretty good VFM.

Have to stop looking at the CH website, wishing they would have a 50% off sale. Would a Saitek X52 do in the meantime? Can get one for around 80, if I don't spend too much on going out over new year I can afford that I reckon.

general_kalle
12-21-2008, 01:53 PM
* sitting with his Saitek Aviator in his hand tightly clampred as to protect it,
shaking all over the body*

eerhh did you say Saitek aviator?
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relcox
12-21-2008, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by general_kalle:
* sitting with his Saitek Aviator in his hand tightly clampred as to protect it,
shaking all over the body*

eerhh did you say Saitek aviator?
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Yes, if you are using one(?) I wouldn't worry I've had mine for a while and it was probably due to break http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Ok, so I have been put off getting an X52 after reading the post about it and checking out the Saitek forum so what I want to know now is

Get replacement Aviator or get a Cyborg X?

WTE_Ibis
12-22-2008, 04:06 AM
Buy CH, you will never need another stick-ever!



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Sirrith
12-22-2008, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Ibis:
Buy CH, you will never need another stick-ever!



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but you'll need to get a second job-fast! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

relcox
12-22-2008, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Sirrith:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Ibis:
Buy CH, you will never need another stick-ever!



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but you'll need to get a second job-fast! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes but which:
Get replacement Aviator or get a Cyborg X?

Hookecho
12-22-2008, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by rnzoli:
I fully simpathize with you and draw the same conclusion: true IL-2 fans have a spare joystick, always http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

No...true IL2 fans have a CH setup so they dont have to worry about breaking sticks. Mines now entering its 5th year with zero problems.

relcox
12-22-2008, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Hookecho:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
I fully simpathize with you and draw the same conclusion: true IL-2 fans have a spare joystick, always http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

No...true IL2 fans have a CH setup so they dont have to worry about breaking sticks. Mines now entering its 5th year with zero problems. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So, because some of us have to spend our money on other things like say bills instead of CH sticks that means we are not true IL2 fans does it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

I'm overjoyed that you are such a dedicated fan and have never had problems because you can afford a CH setup. I feel so much better now thank you.

Hookecho
12-22-2008, 03:51 PM
wow angst much?

I used to go thru a logitech JS every 4 weeks, Best Buy already had the paperwork filled out for me in the return line. I didnt but them all at the same time, and I too have bills and house payments and car payments and the kids college fund to take care of. I work my tail off for my "things" so why the hate?

You can keep buying crap they lasts a few months or buy something thats going to last and thus SAVE you money in the long run. Or you can just be ****y and cry about it

relcox
12-22-2008, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Hookecho:
wow angst much?

I used to go thru a logitech JS every 4 weeks, Best Buy already had the paperwork filled out for me in the return line. I didnt but them all at the same time, and I too have bills and house payments and car payments and the kids college fund to take care of. I work my tail off for my "things" so why the hate?

You can keep buying crap they lasts a few months or buy something thats going to last and thus SAVE you money in the long run. Or you can just be ****y and cry about it

No hate or crying, I would have been abusive if I felt that would I not? Your previous post was thoughtless, unhelpful and condescending, and it irritated me enough to respond, something I wouldn't normally do, but you caught me at a bad time.

Hookecho
12-23-2008, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by relcox:
Your previous post was thoughtless, unhelpful and condescending

Of course it was.....this are the internets!

relcox
12-23-2008, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Hookecho:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by relcox:
Your previous post was thoughtless, unhelpful and condescending

Of course it was.....this are the internets! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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x6BL_Brando
12-23-2008, 11:11 AM
I would just say that this price war/status kit thing is boring. The CH Fighterstick can be found for $100 or less. It incorporates a slide wheel throttle but doesn't have a twist rudder.
It is, however, capable of carrying up to 132 programmable commands for it's abundance of top-hat control buttons - and it is possible to program a top-hat to simulate the rudder. Maybe not quite as fluid as a twist-grip or pedals, but plenty good enough while saving a further $99 for the Pro pedals.

A separate throttle is just a luxury - and I've seen pedals made up out of a spare pot and some lumber that work well and cost next to nothing.

Quality and longevity is the CH thing. I'm on the same stick for 6+ years now with no sign of any problems developing. That's a conservative figure of 5,000 hours flight-time with no maintenance issues at all. That has to be worth $99 of anyone's money.

B

relcox
12-23-2008, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by x6BL_Brando:
I would just say that this price war/status kit thing is boring. The CH Fighterstick can be found for $100 or less. It incorporates a slide wheel throttle but doesn't have a twist rudder.
It is, however, capable of carrying up to 132 programmable commands for it's abundance of top-hat control buttons - and it is possible to program a top-hat to simulate the rudder. Maybe not quite as fluid as a twist-grip or pedals, but plenty good enough while saving a further $99 for the Pro pedals.

A separate throttle is just a luxury - and I've seen pedals made up out of a spare pot and some lumber that work well and cost next to nothing.

Quality and longevity is the CH thing. I'm on the same stick for 6+ years now with no sign of any problems developing. That's a conservative figure of 5,000 hours flight-time with no maintenance issues at all. That has to be worth $99 of anyone's money.

B http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I don't disagree with any of that (except for the price here in the UK), and the merits of having a CH stick/throttle are well known and I fully agree with them but my simple problem is and I shall make this quite clear:

I don't have the money for it.

I need a replacement stick now, not when I have saved up in the future

I was only asking which one I should get out of the range I should be able to afford. Saving for anything is just not a luxury I have right now, hell I would love some new shoes, perhaps to go out at least once a week for a beer, I can't, that's just the way it is for me right now, when things get better I'll get things I want rather than can just afford.

And really I'm not upset that you posted what you did, but if you have(had) read the whole thread you would have seen I never asked for any help or advice on CH products, unless you include "....get me one for the price of a Saitek?"

Mods: could you lock (or delete) this thread please, I'm obviously not going to get a sensible or helpful comment now, thanks.

horseback
12-23-2008, 03:21 PM
I got my CH Combatstick and pedals almost six years ago, after the third Logitech stick in one year bit the dust. I already had a Microsoft Sidewinder (nonFFB), but the Logitechs looked and felt sooo much better.

The CH stick offers the best of both worlds. Precise, reliable, and it feels right in my hand.

Cost per hour of use is far below anything else on the market. PERIOD.

Get a crap stick, and start saving. My stick and pedals cost me $180.00 USD, and I've since added TIR4, the Pro Throttle, and a Saitek Game Commander (you can never have enough buttons) over the last four years. I just kept my eyes open for when things went on sale at the local stores & built up a reserve of cash for 'rainy days'.

If you're hard core about flight simming, it'll be worth it. If on the other hand, you insist upon having a life...

cheers

horseback

relcox
12-23-2008, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
I got my CH Combatstick and pedals almost six years ago, after the third Logitech stick in one year bit the dust. I already had a Microsoft Sidewinder (nonFFB), but the Logitechs looked and felt sooo much better.

The CH stick offers the best of both worlds. Precise, reliable, and it feels right in my hand.

Cost per hour of use is far below anything else on the market. PERIOD.

Get a crap stick, and start saving. My stick and pedals cost me $180.00 USD, and I've since added TIR4, the Pro Throttle, and a Saitek Game Commander (you can never have enough buttons) over the last four years. I just kept my eyes open for when things went on sale at the local stores & built up a reserve of cash for 'rainy days'.

If you're hard core about flight simming, it'll be worth it. If on the other hand, you insist upon having a life...

cheers

horseback


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JG52Uther
12-23-2008, 04:12 PM
Get another AV8R.Its not a bad stick apparently.CH is great,and I love mine,but very expensive in the UK.Over time it would work out cheaper to get the CH stuff,but if you can't afford it,then the AV8R seems to get decent reviews.
Believe it or not I still have my Logitech attack3 stick,just about the cheapest thing you can get,with a 2 year warranty as well.Cost about 15 I think from Argos!No twist rudder on it though,but it still works perfectly.

VMF-214_HaVoK
12-23-2008, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
CH = One time purchase.

+1

I have been there before with Saitek(X-52 broke in only a few months of use) and feel your grief. Finally I listened to the good folks around here and bought all CH and have been stress free ever since. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

S!

na85
12-24-2008, 02:53 AM
Havok do you still have the link to the video of Pappy smashing the sh1t out of his X52? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif