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Shrike_UK
11-04-2004, 06:21 AM
thought this was hilarious and spooky at the same time.
check this link...
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996573


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Shrike_UK
11-04-2004, 06:21 AM
thought this was hilarious and spooky at the same time.
check this link...
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996573


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Stuntie
11-04-2004, 08:11 AM
So is the USAF going to start recuriting rats then?

Waldo.Pepper
11-04-2004, 01:39 PM
Thus was the Terminator born.

RedDeth
11-04-2004, 04:02 PM
dont trust everything you read on the internet....

itll warp your mind into believing anything.

VF-3Thunderboy
11-04-2004, 05:09 PM
It says it "flew" a simulator, and it doesnt say the thing can dogfight or land or use higher cognitive functions, or what ever.

We (The US)had computer controlled aircraft taking off and landing in the 1950's, (with passengers and crew).

F-16's already "read" the pilot pretty good.

They are just using organic materials combined with semi organic (silicone) add electricity, and whala-

Didnt you guys watch Star Trek?
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The technology will eventually develop into human/machine type stuff. We live in like the early 1900's in these terms: Look at what happened over the last 100 years. This has been "predicted" by science fiction for 100 years...

beepboop
11-04-2004, 05:41 PM
When I first read about this in the London Times, I thought it was bound to be a half-truth or an exageration. However, it has actually been done, and it isn't a hoax.

The principle achievement is in fact the successful neuron growth that was witnessed. The neurons actually started to form networks which indicates real brain growth. In the past, we have been able to grow individual neurons, but never properly stimulate the development of a functioning brain. This time we have.

A further accomplishment is the successful integration of organic tissues with artificial data sources: namely the fact that the brain is able to take and send data through the mesh of electrodes on which the neurons were placed.

This is nothing short of an astounding step forwards, and is bound to have far reaching implications. Organic computing devices are likely to far surpass the capabilities of our current artificial machines. Furthermore, the prospect of intelligent, non-human beings is now far, far higher. We shall be able to side-step the difficulties in creating artificial intelligence, since such biological machines are in a very real sense intelligent. Even at this early stage, it is clear that this rat-brain machine is more definitively alive than an amoeba - something which we have never come close to with AI.

If such a small number of neurons from a lower-order creature can create a computational device capable of regulating the dynamics associated with flight, then imagine the possibilites for far larger machines, constructed using human neurons. Unlike the natural human brain, there may be no upper limit to the size of such a device, which would permit the creation of hyper-intelligent biological machines. Using such devices to fly planes is only a primative application. It would be more fitting to think that these mechanisms would be suited to controlling financial markets, furthering scientific research, and analysing complex processes that have hitherto been beyond the capacity of any one brain.

If we can already use a tiny brain to fly an aircraft, then one can only imagine the possibilities for the future.

Fennec_P
11-04-2004, 05:49 PM
Like better AI for flight sims!

beepboop
11-04-2004, 05:51 PM
Indeed, one could apply this to the tasks now done by AI. But this wouldn't be Artificial, it would be a very real intelligence.

mortoma
11-04-2004, 06:56 PM
UBI/Maddox 1C needs to implement this technology somehow so we can harness it to control the game's AI aircraft. It certainly would be an improvement overwhat we have now...lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

rodion_zero
11-04-2004, 07:28 PM
Funny to think that in future PC-based combat flight simulations, there is a possibility we'll be fighting against a "rat-brain" AI LOL

-RODION

effte
11-05-2004, 09:06 AM
Instead of just talking with them in the forums... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Shrike_UK
11-05-2004, 11:44 AM
Thinking of how to incorporate this into AI in a computer game, you'd need a rat brain in your pc so that it could learn to play your games. It would need feeding of course, onion bhajis maybe? through a flap in the top of the case? Maybe in BoB? pretty please? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

GT182
11-05-2004, 12:03 PM
A rat brain in a dish? Hmmmm, how do you feed it to keep it alive? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif And think of the fleas it'll attract. LOL