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Shog
04-22-2009, 03:20 AM
I have read many posts on joysticks. I have a Logitech Force 3D pro, good or bad it is all I have.
I have downloaded the IL2-joycontrol tool but do not understand how to set my joystick up correctly. Is their an idiots guide to how to set up a joystick in basic english as I find the set up guides may as well be in another language as I just do not understand them.
Mine seems to be extremely sensative to trying to turn & I continually end up in an uncontrolled spin. Or is it a matter of just keep flying like it is & in time I will get better (maybe).
Any help would be appreciated.

Shog
04-22-2009, 03:20 AM
I have read many posts on joysticks. I have a Logitech Force 3D pro, good or bad it is all I have.
I have downloaded the IL2-joycontrol tool but do not understand how to set my joystick up correctly. Is their an idiots guide to how to set up a joystick in basic english as I find the set up guides may as well be in another language as I just do not understand them.
Mine seems to be extremely sensative to trying to turn & I continually end up in an uncontrolled spin. Or is it a matter of just keep flying like it is & in time I will get better (maybe).
Any help would be appreciated.

K_Freddie
04-22-2009, 04:29 AM
The sliders are a conversion function that take your stick input and changes it to another value and feeds this to the game engine.

Your stick input is divided into 10 equal sections(sliders) of 10% each.
Going from L-R you have input ranges 10%, 20% - 100%. These are the specific joystick input ranges. The 'centred stick' is in the 0-10% range, and the stick moved to max deflection is in the 91-100% range.

Now on EACH slider you can set % stick input that you want the game to see.
EG the first slider (0-10%) is set to 50%, results in half the joystick deflection getting to the game engine, for this slider range.. and so forth.

If you set all the slider to 100% you have to be gentle with the stick.
Setting them all to 50% you can double your stick movement for the same effect.

Hope this helps a leetle
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jayhall0315
04-22-2009, 04:34 AM
There are three references which can help you out right away:

The best for your questions is this article about Input ranges by Syrius:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...9310655/m/5291035934 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/5291035934)

Tully's guide which will explain the input ranges as well:

http://mission4today.com/index...Base&op=show&kid=261 (http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Knowledge_Base&op=show&kid=261)

And the Newbie's Guide to IL2 Joystick Setups, which will give you some ideas for mapping the IL2 controls to your joystick:

http://www.mediafire.com/?shar...dc50e04e75f6e8ebb871 (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=47962757be5412c90c814df2efeadc50e04e75f6 e8ebb871)

These should answer most of your questions

idonno
04-22-2009, 09:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Shog:

Is their an idiots guide to how to set up a joystick...

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's no need for such a guide because it's too simple.

Step 1. Set all sliders to 100%

Step 2. Well, there is no step 2 really.

Unless your stick is so old and worn out that you should have retired it long ago, don't bother with the Dead Zone and Filtering.

The stick is very sensitive this way and takes getting used to, but it is THE best way to do it. The control surfaces should move as much as the stick moves, not more than, not less than.


As for the continually-trying-to-turn thing and the spinning: are you trimming the airplane, and how long have you been flying IL2?

Ba5tard5word
04-22-2009, 10:52 AM
I just got the same joystick myself and am working on it, this might help a little bit.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...9310655/m/9311025157 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/9311025157)

Right now I have it set from 0 to 80 for elevators and ailerons with both set to "curve" and it seems ok though I want to do a lot more testing to find the best settings. I'll try all 100's and see how wild that is.

If you are spinning out of control a lot then you need to be more gentle on the stick and not push it to the max. I put my settings to 80 at the max because 100 is too much and just makes me lose control. Most planes will flip over and totally lose control if you make a sharp turn--you just have to practice and get used to the planes so you know how you can handle them without causing flips and stalls.

Shog
04-22-2009, 03:01 PM
Thank you for your advice I will try to reset my stick values & go from there.

I have had the game probably 6 months but have been unable to come to terms with it so I leave it .........then come back & try again & again & again.

Great forum & thank you for the help.
The game has great potential I just want to get my head around it......lol, I am a senior would be pilot, very senior.

Shog
04-22-2009, 03:37 PM
It makes a big difference when explained that way.

Ba5tard5word's link is great it should be made sticky for any other idiots like me that like games like this but initially have no idea.

Three simple adjustments has made my flying improve greatly & very quickly with all settings on realistic now.

Thank you everyone that was a big help. Much appreciated.

Ba5tard5word
04-22-2009, 04:12 PM
Cool!

What did you end up with for the numbers? Just 0 to 100 with curves? Or something else?

Shog
04-22-2009, 04:35 PM
I found so far setting pitch 0 to 70
Roll 45 to 100
yaw 80 to 100

Working good for me so far but I am still adjusting. It is a lot more controlable & still quite responsive. I have not had a spin yet so I will adjust it to where I find it gets back to unable to control it then back it off A bit I think.

Thinking of setting all to 100 & then deadjusting from there but not game yet as it is now very flyable.