View Full Version : Revised CRG: The Polikarpovs (I-16, I-153, I-185)

08-23-2005, 07:30 AM
Since Oleg announced many new planes i think i should hurry up.

This is the 5th post in a series of topics on the Revised Cockpit Reference Guide that i am working on. It will contain all planes this time so i will share it with you just after the release of the last patch. In these topics i post what i have chosen for the time being to write about each aircraft as side-info to the cockpit reference. This way the experts of this forum will quickly point out errors and maybe offer better alternatives to my words for each aircraft. Do not stick that much to numbers. I offer approximate ones first because you can never be sure with so many conflicting numbers out there, and second because this is a compact guide and shouldn't waste precious space by adding all speeds for every model of a plane if they are very similar. Still if you find that there are important inconsistencies please tell me so before i "release" the guide next month.

Polikarpov I-153 "Tchayka" (Seagull) (`39)
The I-153 was a biplane fighter which could also be used for ground attack. Quite slow (366km/h at sea level and
444km/h at 3000m), but able to outturn almost any opponent (12-13.5s turn time at 1000m). The I-153 saw
action mainly in the Winter War (1939-40) against the Finns, but was soon withdrawn after the German invasion.
¦ Consider switching the supercharger to stage 2 over 1500m. Generally avoid high altitudes (>2500m).
¦ Quite surprisingly the I-153 has automatically retractable undercarriage.
¦ Avoid long steep dives; it will start disintegrating before it reaches 600km/h.
M62: upper nose - 2x7.62mm ShKAS (left 700rpg/27sec, right 750rpg/29sec),
lower nose - 2x7.62mm ShKAS (left 500rpg/19sec, right 520rpg/19sec).
P: nose - 2x20mm ShVAK (left 200rpg/17sec, right 250rpg/21sec).
Polikarpov I-16 "Rata" (`39)
Although difficult to fly and with poor visibility, the I-16 would be a successful fighter which gained the respect
of its opponents in Spain in the civil war, in the Far East against the Japanese and during the opening stages
of Operation Barbarossa against the Germans.
Maximum speed: 440km/h at sea level and 490km/h at 3000m. Turn time 17-18s at 1000m.
¦ The I-16 does have retractable gears, but not automatic; you need to press "raise/lower gear manually" 44 times.
¦ Consider switching the supercharger to stage 2 at around 1500m and generally avoid altitudes over 3500m.
¦ The I-16 is very sensitive to engine cutouts (starvings) when pushing the stick forward, since fuel is fed to the
engine with gravity. The same stands for many other early war planes such as the I-153, the G.50, the Hurricane
etc., who have carburetor engines. To restart the engine you must be at low throttle and have enough
airspeed to at least spin the propeller. You may have to wait a few sec for prop and rpm (tachometer (3)) to
stabilize and then try restarting.
¦ The I-16 starts disintegrating at around 600km/h.
Type 18: nose - 2x7.62mm ShKAS (750rpg/29sec), wings - 2x7.62mm ShKAS (650rpg/25sec).
Type 24 and Type24 SPB: nose - 2x7.62mm ShKAS (650rpg/25sec), wings - 2x20mm ShVAK (120rpg/10sec).
Polikarpov I-185 M-82A, M-71 (`42)
Designed by Nikolai Nikolaevich Polikarpov The I-185 was a very impressive fighter. Its performance was better
than all contemporary enemy aircraft. They were tested in the Soviet army for a month, but the pilots were ordered
not to engage enemies in order not to lose any of the four aircraft. The pilots's reports were enthusiastic about the
speed, the vertical manoeuvrability, the strong armament and the ease of flying. However, for reasons not very clear,
but probably political (implicating Yakovlev) the I-185 did not enter production. The performance of the I-185
of 1942 was matched only two years later by the La-7.
Maximum Speed (M82A/M71): 549/600km/h at sea level and 615/680km/h at 6170m).
Climb to 5000m in 6.0/4.7min. Service Ceiling 10450/10000m. Range 1380/835km.
M-82A,M-71: nose - 3x20mm ShVAK (220rpg/19 sec).

I have no tips for the I-185. Maybe someone could contribute to that.

08-23-2005, 07:31 AM
Tomorrow the Ki-84 and Ki-100

You can find the previous CRG posts at:

4. Stukas,He111: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/3011097843
3. La5,La7: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/9311023843
2. CR42,G50: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/5971000843
1. Ki43,61: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/7311047743

08-23-2005, 07:47 AM
Early on it is a great mud mover. With the rockets and a good payload, It can destroy medium well defended airfields and simpler anything on its way .
That is when no fighter cover is there

08-23-2005, 08:38 AM

i just noticed another thing about the I-185. The propeller is very big and is easy to bend when landing.

08-24-2005, 04:34 AM

last call for advice on the polikarpovs
before i post the Ki-84 and Ki-100.

08-25-2005, 05:14 PM
tip for planes with manual landing gear. go into the stick programming software and make a macro to control the gear. on the x-52, u could use the t1-t6 switches after binding them in controls. keeping the button pushed will raise/lower the gear just as fast as automatic landing gear.

08-25-2005, 07:47 PM
nice tip http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

08-25-2005, 11:36 PM
As far as Polikarpov was not so "politically correct" and Yakovlev did strike knife in Polikarpov's back, the I-185 was stellar only with M-71 engine, which was never in serial production due to never overcome teething problems.