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Kliest
01-09-2006, 10:38 AM
How can I print out the maps, or at least look at them so I can get my bearings?

How do I know if my joystick is too sensative and how do I adjust it? I know HOW to adjust it in that I know the screen to use, but what do the numbers mean and how do I know I have got it right.

I do find myself stalling in turn when I seem to have lots of energy and in situations that in other flight sims I would think I was ok.

Also, I have some peddles from my racing wheel, they are equal size and look to me like they would be perfect for rudder (using a sidewinder currently). Any ideas why I cant get them to work? (is sidewinder taking control, how can I deactivate?)

Thanks for the help
Kliest

Kliest
01-09-2006, 10:38 AM
How can I print out the maps, or at least look at them so I can get my bearings?

How do I know if my joystick is too sensative and how do I adjust it? I know HOW to adjust it in that I know the screen to use, but what do the numbers mean and how do I know I have got it right.

I do find myself stalling in turn when I seem to have lots of energy and in situations that in other flight sims I would think I was ok.

Also, I have some peddles from my racing wheel, they are equal size and look to me like they would be perfect for rudder (using a sidewinder currently). Any ideas why I cant get them to work? (is sidewinder taking control, how can I deactivate?)

Thanks for the help
Kliest

hamselv2
01-09-2006, 12:18 PM
You can view the mission map by pressing the button(s) you have assigned for map viewing (I think default key is M).

A lot of maps for download:
http://777avg.com/maps/
http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_maps.htm
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m.../243107965#243107965 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/243107965/r/243107965#243107965)

Joystick setup related links:
http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/sticks.htm#008
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9841036443
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/5501083073
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/2601097173
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/8301045123
Some profiles here:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/6151072653
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/197100554

If your stalling/instability is extraordinary/extreme you may have what is called 'the wobbles', that is caused on some PC's when you install patch 4.02m.
Read about it here (or search the PF forums with search word wobble) and some potential cures:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=2...571051593#3571051593 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=3061051593&r=35 71051593#3571051593)
http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=144;t=001612;p=0
Another reason for plane instability can be a bad joystick, and too 'aggressive' stick settings.

You can use the racing wheel pedals to control the rudder.
Read about it here (or search the PF Forums with search words like racing wheel pedal):
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m...401027492#2401027492 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/1131096492/r/2401027492#2401027492)

Tully__
01-10-2006, 03:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kliest:
How can I print out the maps, or at least look at them so I can get my bearings? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Check the links provided by hamselv2

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How do I know if my joystick is too sensative and how do I adjust it? I know HOW to adjust it in that I know the screen to use, but what do the numbers mean and how do I know I have got it right. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>What they do is covered here (clickable) (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/5551007183/r/5631077183#5631077183) Whether it's right is a matter of personal opinion, though in some cases a feeling that it's too sensitive can be cured increasing the sensitivity by a large amount. Again the first link provided by hamselv2 gives some useful info, as no doubt do the others (I wrote the first one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). Also check out the IL2Sticks utility mentioned in the thread about how sensitivity works, there's a link in my sig. I works the same as the "in game" sliders but for more than one controller.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I do find myself stalling in turn when I seem to have lots of energy and in situations that in other flight sims I would think I was ok. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Stalling is dodgy in some way in all flight sims. In real aicraft it is caused by having the angle of attack (the angle at which the wings meet the airflow) too high. It is possible to make an aircraft stall at any speed where you have sufficient elevator authority to achieve the critical angle of attack. Though this sim does have its problems with stall, that aspect of stall is better modelled than any other sim I've tried.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Also, I have some peddles from my racing wheel, they are equal size and look to me like they would be perfect for rudder (using a sidewinder currently). Any ideas why I cant get them to work? (is sidewinder taking control, how can I deactivate?) </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Any racing pedals which have an option in the driver/programming software to make two pedals act as a combined single axis can be used as rudder pedals. Again check http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/sticks.htm#008 for some info on how to deal with 2 controllers, and again the IL2 Sticks utility from FoolTrottel (link under my signature picture) is a great help when it comes to adjusting the sensitivity of multiple controllers.

neural_dream
01-10-2006, 04:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
Any racing pedals which have an option in the driver/programming software to make two pedals act as a combined single axis can be used as rudder pedals. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not sure about that. I didn't succeed with my R440.

Tully__
01-10-2006, 05:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by neural_dream:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
Any racing pedals which have an option in the driver/programming software to make two pedals act as a combined single axis can be used as rudder pedals. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not sure about that. I didn't succeed with my R440. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It may require manually loading the profile before game launch... I found the TM wheel/pedals I experimented with didn't autoload the profile as often as not when I was experimenting with racing pedals as rudder.

neural_dream
01-10-2006, 06:03 AM
What profile? I just tick the combine in one axis (or something) in the control panel's configuration for my Saitek R440.

That works but not the way it should. You can use the pedals but (IIRC) the range of rudder is offset by 50%: Leave them alone and you go 50% right for example.

Tully__
01-10-2006, 06:48 AM
That would be a calibration issue. I'm not sure if it's a hardware or software issue though. The TM wheel I used included full deflection both ways and centre in the calibration routine, ensuring that the rudder was centered when both pedals were lifted.

In the ended I ditched it anyway as the ability to press both pedals down at once ruined any hint of realism that using pedals might seem to give.