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pcorrect
05-16-2005, 06:42 PM
This is a good looking game though I am new to flight sims. I sure have a lot of work to do and may need some new equipment.
I am using a Saitek Cyborg Rumble Force stick. This may not be the thing to use but it is what I have. Will this do or should I get a better or different one?
Also are there any user created training missions? The missions in the game are ok but maybe I need more intensive instructions.
And any tips on stick, keybord, settings?
Thank you.

Atomic_Marten
05-16-2005, 06:54 PM
The most important thing is to have stick that will provide you good controll of elevator, ailerons and rudder (some joysticks do not have rudder controll).

Other than that.. it's up to you - basically how much money you are willing to spend (expensive joystick CH + pedals are maybe the bst thing according to many guys here). I'm using Cyborg EVO for some time now. I am satisfied.
Take note that, whatever you are using/will use, you need to practice a lot with it.

And also maybe you need to tune up your joystick sensitivity a bit according to your needs -- if you are a rookie to the game I would not reccomend that.

Take a quick look here (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2_PF/pf_essential_files.htm) -- look at the joystick (http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/sticks.htm) section. You can find reccomended joystick sensitivity, reccomended control mapping etc..

Basically you will find there whatever you need to know about Pacific Fighters and various set-ups for the game.

Atomic_Marten
05-16-2005, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by pcorrect:
Also are there any user created training missions? The missions in the game are ok but maybe I need more intensive instructions.

You should take note that the user made campaigns are different from stock ones because they are *static* campaigns (that was featured in IL-2).
In PF you have *dynamic* campaigns -- the game basically 'counts' events and losses on both sides - raw translated means that if your side ahs shot down for instance 30 aircraft of one type that type begins to appear less..

Generally, user made (static) campaigns are better than stock ones because *every* mission is story for itself unlikely in stock ones.
But then again, they are lacking several 'dynamic' features.
It's up to you to decide what suits you the best.

Here (http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/missions.php) you can find user campaigns(missions) from official site.
There are several more sites that have them.

pcorrect
05-16-2005, 07:50 PM
It appears that the stick I got is ok. It was on that link you posted for me.
I will work on the control mapping.

JunkoIfurita
05-17-2005, 04:21 PM
I know it's a bit of a cop-out (and a support to the fact that Pacific Fighters was MORE and add-on than a stand-alone game), but there are a really good set of training tracks included with the original Forgotten Battles. Take-off, Landing, Ground Attack, Aerial Gunnery and Dive/Level Bombing. Combined with the Carrier-based training tracks included with Pacific Fighters, they make a pretty conclusive training regimen for a beginner.

Unfortunately, if you've only got Pacific Fighters you're a little short (both in training, and in the manual itself).

There are a couple of solutions: One would be to get the IL2 Gold Pack - that way you get Forgotten Battles & Aces Expansion, which you can install PF on top of for a very expansive sim experience (and you get all the training material).

Secondly - check out AirWarfare (www.airwarfare.com (http://www.airwarfare.com)). They have an expansive series of written tutorials for Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters that will get you started on nearly anything you could want.

Thirdly (lastly because I work slowly), I myself am putting together a big set of training tracks/missions to eventually post to the community. I want Pacific Fighters to have as much new player appeal as the original Forgotten Battles did for me in 2001 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Also, I'm using the in-game radio-comms to record commentaries to each track - so all you OTU boys get to hear my flat Aussie whine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif However, this project isn't that useful for you - besides basic training, I'm working on training tracks for each individual aircraft in order to help demonstrate individual strenghts, weaknesses and reccomended techniques. Since I need to LEARN each aircraft properly before I can do that, this is gonna take some time. I guess it's more of a pet project than anything else.

Also, as Atomic Marten suggested you should check out the user missions and user track listings on this site - there are several people out there already producing training tracks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Which gives me an idea...hmmm...

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pcorrect
05-17-2005, 07:19 PM
Thank you all!
JunkoIfurita, I will see about getting the IL2 Gold Pack. With a little luck the stores will have it. Your training mission effort will be appreciated.

Bearcat99
05-18-2005, 01:45 PM
Welcome aboard... hit the Sturmovik Essentials link in my sig.