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Uufflakke
07-16-2009, 12:26 PM
After seeing this image in a book I'm curious what kind of loadout this is? The text didn't help me at all.

This rather unusual load for a He 111 seems to be some form of container for bombs and/or ammunition,although the stencilling might well be a legacy from a previous usage.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Whatisthis-4.jpg

BillSwagger
07-16-2009, 12:33 PM
its an onboard out house...Now dropping those has been forbidden by Geneva, as far as i know.

ImMoreBetter
07-16-2009, 12:34 PM
I ran across this (http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt07/food-drop.html) a year or so ago.

Choctaw111
07-16-2009, 12:57 PM
Where's the cutout shaped like the moon?
Is it really a "food bomb"?

VF-17_Jolly
07-16-2009, 01:29 PM
I read of a fighter sqn which carried beer in drop tanks(taste?) or beer kegs under the wings

Tooz_69GIAP
07-16-2009, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
I read of a fighter sqn which carried beer in drop tanks(taste?) or beer kegs under the wings

I've read of at least one spitifre squadron which carried kegs across the channel under their wings when they were deployed to France after D-Day. Apparently, it made the beer extra cold!

waffen-79
07-16-2009, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by BillSwagger:
its an onboard out house...Now dropping those has been forbidden by Geneva, as far as i know.

LOL insta WIN http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

if it were a caption contest though

Odirroh
07-16-2009, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
I read of a fighter sqn which carried beer in drop tanks(taste?) or beer kegs under the wings
As far as I know this happend just once.
Pilot was Heinz Sachsenberg, location was Anapa near to the Black Sea.
A guy built a model which illustrates the plane together with the keg
beneath the fuselage.
http://www.modellversium.de/ga...-109-g-2-revell.html (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/9-flugzeuge-militaer-bis-1949/1987-messerschmitt-bf-109-g-2-revell.html)

Odirroh

EDIT:
I didn´t know about the Spitfire sqd, mentioned by Tooz_69GIAP.

K_Freddie
07-16-2009, 02:32 PM
I think if you could get the date when this photo was taken, it might help narrow down the possibilities.
It's make me think that it was at the time when Stalingrad was surrounded by the Russians
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VF-17_Jolly
07-16-2009, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Odirroh:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
I read of a fighter sqn which carried beer in drop tanks(taste?) or beer kegs under the wings
As far as I know this happend just once.
Pilot was Heinz Sachsenberg, location was Anapa near to the Black Sea.
A guy built a model which illustrates the plane together with the keg
beneath the fuselage.
http://www.modellversium.de/ga...-109-g-2-revell.html (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/9-flugzeuge-militaer-bis-1949/1987-messerschmitt-bf-109-g-2-revell.html)

Odirroh

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Uufflakke
07-16-2009, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by K_Freddie:
I think if you could get the date when this photo was taken, it might help narrow down the possibilities.
It's make me think that it was at the time when Stalingrad was surrounded by the Russians
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This image is from a book called "German bombers over Russia" but no extra info about this loadout. So yes, you are on the right track by mentioning Stalingrad I guess. I was wondering what it is or what's in it because of it's odd shaped crate.
Maybe there ís food in it for the German troops who were surrounded by the Red Army.

K_Freddie
07-16-2009, 03:44 PM
It probably contained those 1000s of condoms they sent to them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

AndyJWest
07-16-2009, 09:51 PM
Interesting photo. It looks too complex to just be a crate for food, and I wonder if it is some kind of experimental device, maybe airborne radar or even infra-red (I think the luftwaffe may have experimented with this at some time). If I wanted to carry beer (lager?) on a He-111 I'd carry it internally, in bottles, though ditching them in a hurry might be difficult.

There's not a lot of ground clearance, so you'd be a brave pilot to fly with this if it contains explosives, and it's not exactly aerodynamic, so I doubt whether it was intended for front-line use.

Waldo.Pepper
07-16-2009, 10:23 PM
It is a 700kg supply container. At one end is a large parachute and at the other end is a cushioning buffer. This picture shows the cushioning buffer end.

Here is another view showing the parachute end.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/book/700kgsupplycontainer.jpg

AndyJWest
07-17-2009, 02:03 AM
I stand corrected, a marvelous example of German over-engineering http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Uufflakke
07-17-2009, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
It is a 700kg supply container. At one end is a large parachute and at the other end is a cushioning buffer. This picture shows the cushioning buffer end.


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Thanks Waldo.Pepper!
Now I know what it is. It's not a matter of life and death but just curiosity.
The author of the book didn't know what it was and probably the German Bundesarchiv neither because there is where he got the image from.
Ask here and you get an answer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif