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thjreggae
01-23-2005, 01:25 PM
For PF standalone users who have Voice Buddy and TrackIR3 pro, you may have encountered some setup problems http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif, or like me, no functionality at all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif. I have found a solution for Microsoft Sidewinder FF2 joysticks and VB failure to initialise commands with Pilot Lily Litvak, there is an earlier thread which explains much of the background. For interested parties the fix runs like this.
1. Ensure the VB IL2 edition inserts pilot Lily "voicebuddy" Litvak into your roster. If not, you need the IL2 fix from the e-dimensional website in their support area. See earlier thread if you end up with a Lily 'voiceu200buddy' litvak= pilot! this will not work, and the ALL.ini file needs re-editing. Ensure that the pilot comes up as the VB Litvak.
2. Within VoiceBuddy 2.0 select IL Forgootten Battles edition.
3. You may need to set up a specific PF file under TrackIR3 by editing the IL/FB/AEP file. Use deadzone settings for Yaw for full control, (Pitch settings depend on whether you have the Expansion for use with Baseball caps)
4. Having opened VB and TrackIR. Go start Program files/Ubi Soft/ Pacific fighters/Setup and select OpenGL and set your resolution and then enter the Joystick config tab and confirm the MS FF2 window states OK
5. Run PF
6. Confirm that Lily 'voicebuddy' Litvak is selected as the active pilot.
7. Enter a mission.
8. If you have no stick movement, do the following...
enter controls menu and ensure that all references to HAT are removed by selected the numeric pad counterpart twice. (this is effectively reconfiguring the key assigment by removing joystick buttons) Replace all references to joystick buttons apart from unassigned functions such as canopy open etc. Joystick buttons 5 through 8 can be assigned.
9. Under the HOTAS menu, assign X,Y and Z vectors for ailerons, rudder and throttle to the respective joystick function by moving the joystick when the field is open for reassigment.
10. Resume mission and confirm movement of the relevant controls in the cockpit.
11. Assign a keyboard key for brake release. ( I cannot get MS FF2 to allocate a joystick button for the brakes for some reason.)
12. Resume mission and take to the skies with full VB functionality. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
At long last, some 100+ hours and I have the setup that I paid good money for. Such a pity the likes of E-dimensional could not have figured this out themselves before heavily promoting the PF VB edition.
Any problems add to this thread and I shall try to answer them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif, as why should you all waste more hours, when I have done this for y'all!
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thjreggae
01-23-2005, 01:25 PM
For PF standalone users who have Voice Buddy and TrackIR3 pro, you may have encountered some setup problems http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif, or like me, no functionality at all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif. I have found a solution for Microsoft Sidewinder FF2 joysticks and VB failure to initialise commands with Pilot Lily Litvak, there is an earlier thread which explains much of the background. For interested parties the fix runs like this.
1. Ensure the VB IL2 edition inserts pilot Lily "voicebuddy" Litvak into your roster. If not, you need the IL2 fix from the e-dimensional website in their support area. See earlier thread if you end up with a Lily 'voiceu200buddy' litvak= pilot! this will not work, and the ALL.ini file needs re-editing. Ensure that the pilot comes up as the VB Litvak.
2. Within VoiceBuddy 2.0 select IL Forgootten Battles edition.
3. You may need to set up a specific PF file under TrackIR3 by editing the IL/FB/AEP file. Use deadzone settings for Yaw for full control, (Pitch settings depend on whether you have the Expansion for use with Baseball caps)
4. Having opened VB and TrackIR. Go start Program files/Ubi Soft/ Pacific fighters/Setup and select OpenGL and set your resolution and then enter the Joystick config tab and confirm the MS FF2 window states OK
5. Run PF
6. Confirm that Lily 'voicebuddy' Litvak is selected as the active pilot.
7. Enter a mission.
8. If you have no stick movement, do the following...
enter controls menu and ensure that all references to HAT are removed by selected the numeric pad counterpart twice. (this is effectively reconfiguring the key assigment by removing joystick buttons) Replace all references to joystick buttons apart from unassigned functions such as canopy open etc. Joystick buttons 5 through 8 can be assigned.
9. Under the HOTAS menu, assign X,Y and Z vectors for ailerons, rudder and throttle to the respective joystick function by moving the joystick when the field is open for reassigment.
10. Resume mission and confirm movement of the relevant controls in the cockpit.
11. Assign a keyboard key for brake release. ( I cannot get MS FF2 to allocate a joystick button for the brakes for some reason.)
12. Resume mission and take to the skies with full VB functionality. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
At long last, some 100+ hours and I have the setup that I paid good money for. Such a pity the likes of E-dimensional could not have figured this out themselves before heavily promoting the PF VB edition.
Any problems add to this thread and I shall try to answer them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif, as why should you all waste more hours, when I have done this for y'all!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

IL2-chuter
01-23-2005, 11:16 PM
gj http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

brianlund
01-25-2005, 04:37 PM
OK, I'm apparently a member of the VB .01% club and yes I've been abandoned by eDimensional. I got PF for Christmas and shortly after ordered the IL2 edition of VB having used VB since it came out and being very pleased with it. The problem started right away. I was one od those who fell in the diabolical trap of loading IL2 and VB on something other than the C:. I have since then tried everything I could think of, everything on the VB site, everything I've read here and everything eDimensional support(?) asked me to do before they washed their hands of me. After a number of e-mails back and forth they eventually gave me the "we can't duplicate it and see no reason why it shouldn't work so we can't help you." I've had better kiss-offs, I can tell you.

Here's what happens and it's been exactly like this isnce the beginning. I have PF and VB both installed in their default directories on C:. I've got the Lily pilot in and the all,ini set up correctly. I launch IL2 FB version of VB then launch Pacific Fighters. I select the Lily pilot and then go to practice a carrier take off with an F4 (or whatever.) Once I'm sitting on the carrier deck I try a number of different commands. I always get the voice back and sometimes something actually happens but it's never what it's suppose to be. For instance "Flaps Down" will result in the prop being feathered to 50%. Or "Open Canopy" will zoom my view. If I Alt-Tab out and look at the VB dialogue it shows IL FB as running but shows an unknown user. When I quit PF and look at the log from the VB session the commnads that it sends for what I say are all wrong. For instance if I say "Start Engine" it sends {Ctrl} E. This is just an example, I don't remember the exact one. By the way I'm running standalone PF.

As I said I worked with eDimensional and they were a huge disappointment. They basically walked away and said wait for the patch and of course there was a strong implication that I didn't know what I was doing and that it was sonehow mu fault that their program didn't work.

I'm at a loss.

thjreggae
01-25-2005, 05:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by brianlund:
OK, I'm apparently a member of the VB .01% club and yes I've been abandoned by eDimensional. I got PF for Christmas and shortly after ordered the IL2 edition of VB having used VB since it came out and being very pleased with it. The problem started right away. I was one od those who fell in the diabolical trap of loading IL2 and VB on something other than the C:. I have since then tried everything I could think of, everything on the VB site, everything I've read here and everything eDimensional support(?) asked me to do before they washed their hands of me. After a number of e-mails back and forth they eventually gave me the "we can't duplicate it and see no reason why it shouldn't work so we can't help you." I've had better kiss-offs, I can tell you.

Here's what happens and it's been exactly like this isnce the beginning. I have PF and VB both installed in their default directories on C:. I've got the Lily pilot in and the all,ini set up correctly. I launch IL2 FB version of VB then launch Pacific Fighters. I select the Lily pilot and then go to practice a carrier take off with an F4 (or whatever.) Once I'm sitting on the carrier deck I try a number of different commands. I always get the voice back and sometimes something actually happens but it's never what it's suppose to be. For instance "Flaps Down" will result in the prop being feathered to 50%. Or "Open Canopy" will zoom my view. If I Alt-Tab out and look at the VB dialogue it shows IL FB as running but shows an unknown user. When I quit PF and look at the log from the VB session the commnads that it sends for what I say are all wrong. For instance if I say "Start Engine" it sends {Ctrl} E. This is just an example, I don't remember the exact one. By the way I'm running standalone PF.

As I said I worked with eDimensional and they were a huge disappointment. They basically walked away and said wait for the patch and of course there was a strong implication that I didn't know what I was doing and that it was sonehow mu fault that their program didn't work.

I'm at a loss. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dear Brian, 2 things cross my mind. Firstly did you know that within VB you can train the recognition software for specific commands?
Start VB&gt;&gt;File&gt;&gt;Voice Command Manager. You will then be given a command list. Click on the keyboard command or Voice response fields and the relevant command will be highlighted. If you do not have {IL2-INI;[Hotkey pilot]Aircraft_starting engine as the command line for "start engine", then your installation of VB is screwed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif and I suggest that you uninstall and reinstall it.
Secondly, ensure that you have not inadvertently changed the key assignments under the controls section in PF. It is easily done when trying to highlight fields to change keys. Ensure that you do not have duplicates.
Always try to speak the commands as set out under the VB command manager, as the syntax appears to be important.
But when all is said and done, you still get anomalies. For instance I get remove chocks when I ask for the tail wheel to be locked http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif!!!
Hope this helps, let me know how you get on.
Tony.

brianlund
01-25-2005, 06:30 PM
thjreggae,
I appreciate the reply but I've been through all that. I've been using VB since it came out in MSFS, CFS2 and F1 Challenge with no problems.

I think I know what the problem is but I don't have a clue how to fix it. In the VB dialogue box I always get "IL2 User: Unknown" and when I check the log file after trying it I do not get a line like this

IL-2: loaded 274 element(s) from "C:\Program Files\Ubi Soft\IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles\Users\doe\settings.ini"

So for some reason it is not finding the settings.ini file for the current user. I have loaded and reloaded at least five times. I've loaded and unloaded and reloaded PF. No good. One thing I do notice is that the install path for Pacific Fighters is c:\Ubisoft\Pacific Fighters. Every other example I've seen seems to indicate that the install path is c:\ubisoft\IL2 sturmovik forgotten battles. I used the default install path for PF. I also have an IL2 Sturmovik and an IL2 sturmovik forgatten battles sub directories under program files.

thjreggae
01-25-2005, 07:31 PM
Brian, despite your extensive experience with VB, and far be it for me as a newbie to question what you are doing, but from my observations, the IL2:user is defined by the pilot selected in the roster, which in turn must have a "named" pilot folder containing the config and settings folders in your User directory. the ALL.ini file will confirm the current users available. Are you using VB version2? The ALL.ini files must be the same in the IL Sturm and IL FB subfolders, which is why backing up the files is useful. For some reason, your install is on the native drive, should it not be under Program files? just a thought... try reinstalling it and selecting the following path "C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Pacific Fighters\pf.exe" That might just work....