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bhunter2112
02-04-2008, 02:41 PM
When are we gettin some info and when is the release date? Yeah... go to the 1c site. nothin there nothin here. Oleg posts some old dev screenies from three years ago. yahoo
we need
a web site with a forum, weekly in game screenies, in game videos & dev video
a forum where questions can be answered & asked. info on game play. This way you create buzz and intrest and maybe increase intrest which increases sales!

Urufu_Shinjiro
02-04-2008, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by bhunter2112:
When are we gettin some info and when is the release date? Yeah... go to the 1c site. nothin there nothin here. Oleg posts some old dev screenies from three years ago. yahoo
we need
a web site with a forum, weekly in game screenies, in game videos & dev video
a forum where questions can be answered & asked. info on game play. This way you create buzz and intrest and maybe increase intrest which increases sales!

Apparently you have not been to the 1C site, oleg has been answering questions, try this link: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2429
Latest round of answers was posted less that two weeks ago. Before you start bashing do your homework.

zardozid
02-04-2008, 03:09 PM
bouncy,bouncy,bouncy...

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff22/proton45/1111938078438.gif?t=1202162592

Klemm.co
02-04-2008, 03:24 PM
bhunter2112 is right. That marketing strategy (i don't know how doing next to nothing for promoting a game is can even be called marketing) by Oleg or UBI or whoever is downright ridiculous. Do they only want the people to buy that game that are visiting the relevant forums frequently or know of it? It is understandable that they do not want to talk about work that is a long way from release and as it seems slowly progressing, but it's not reasonable. There has to be a miracle for the game to sell well, well maybe they are including some great features that will make it a world-beater, but i wouldn't count on it because i know next to nothing about it, apart from some old alpha-stage vids or early development pics.
This way it's just not going to work. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

bhunter2112
02-05-2008, 12:03 AM
Yes I have been to the 1c site yes Oleg gives a few vauge answers and info. We need a site with vids that can get on youtube and the like so potential customers can SEE it. Marketing 101.

Chivas
02-05-2008, 01:03 AM
I'm sure they will start advertising when the time is right. Its still a year away, and probably not sure which features will make it into the first edition of SOW.

Jutocsa
02-05-2008, 03:48 AM
Not to mention, whats the use of posting endless "I want BoB info now" threads here ? Does any of you think Oleg will come here, read it, and change all in a sudden ? Or its just pure ranting - guess so.
Why dont you all post these at 1C forum where they are read.

leitmotiv
02-05-2008, 03:59 AM
Don't sweat it, bhunter and klemm, both of you are right, as are the dozens of others who have railed against the silly Stalinist security practiced by 1C. What we are talking about here promises to be the ne plus ultra, super mama flight simulator/boom plaything of all time, and, bloody hell, people literally think it is something made by Shockwave! This is bad business, bad advertising, and plain ridiculous. Ignore the usual suspects who pooh-pooh those who note Oleg's shortsightedness---if Oleg released CFS3 and called it BOBSOW they would be singing hosannas to the genius of Oleg. SILLY POODLES!

http://www.ocregister.com/newsimages/show/2005/03/24poodles.jpg

Ratsack
02-05-2008, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by Chivas:
..Its still a year away...

But the question, old chap, is which year.

Ratsack

Copperhead311th
02-05-2008, 04:06 AM
well the only thing i realy want for Bob is a flexible user interface, the ability to add squadron regimentals for online squadrons, and user in put for aircraft id numbers.

more than any of that i'd realy like a better marketing campign from those (insert expaltive here) @ UBI. marketing and promotion for this sim is the worst in the industry, and since marketing and distrabution is ubi's job and not Olegs they need toi get thier lazy no good asses in gear for a change.

leitmotiv
02-05-2008, 04:09 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Precisely to both above.

Jutocsa
02-05-2008, 05:04 AM
All Im saying, right or not, its useless to post something like this in this forum. Its like demanding a new patch for CoD4 here...totally pointless. At least on the official 1C forum there is a chance Oleg will read it (Evgeny makes sure of it) and a slight chance that he cares.

leitmotiv
02-05-2008, 05:24 AM
Post here, post there, post everywhere. Don't be a supine poodle and wait for Oleg's lead. Passivity is for dead fish.

bhunter2112
02-05-2008, 10:38 AM
I have posted this on 1c...many times. On the Il2 forum because There is no BOB forum !!!! Yeah... amazing...... I know.... no BOB forum.

Chivas
02-05-2008, 11:56 AM
If Maddox had started advertising SOW as demanded by a few on the forums since 2005, it would have been a huge waste of money. I can just hear the hullaballu if a feature that was advertised, didn't make the final cut. The cry's of Promises and False Advertising would be deafining on the forums. Of course Microsoft has gotten away with it for years, but they have much deeper pockets.

SOW is already known, and will be bought by most of the combat flight sim market. Even most of the malcontents who threaten otherwise will by the game. Unless of course it turns out to be a dude. Highly unlikely. Most of the advertising whining from us is just a vailed attempt to see more updates.

If the game is as cinematic as Olegs hopes, saving his money for a TV advertisement at the right time will be huge.

willyvic
02-05-2008, 12:14 PM
As far as we know, Ubisoft isn't even involved in this new game. If true, finding a world wide distributer may be Olegs biggest concern at the moment.

But I too am disappointed with the information (lack of) trend these past two years. We had already seen the nifty pics and heard the nifty insights that are posted a 1C quite a while ago.

The longer this drags on, the more skeptical I become. If it gets released, yay. If not, no big whoop at this point.

IL2 is still giving me what I want in a sim at the moment.

WV.

EDCF_Rama
02-05-2008, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by willyvic:
As far as we know, Ubisoft isn't even involved in this new game. If true, finding a world wide distributer may be Olegs biggest concern at the moment.

You don't know
Ubisoft is involved in SoW:BoB since the start and is giving money to M:1C for the dev

EURO_Snoopy
02-05-2008, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Chivas:
Unless of course it turns out to be a dude. Highly unlikely.

Agree 110% it will be a biatch

willyvic
02-05-2008, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by EDCF_Rama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by willyvic:
As far as we know, Ubisoft isn't even involved in this new game. If true, finding a world wide distributer may be Olegs biggest concern at the moment.

You don't know
Ubisoft is involved in SoW:BoB since the start and is giving money to M:1C for the dev </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And your information is from where?...please share with us. And don't link a 2 year old press release if you please.


WV

Urufu_Shinjiro
02-05-2008, 02:53 PM
Yeah, I have to go with willyvic on this one, it doesn't seem like ubi is involved at all anymore.

stalkervision
02-05-2008, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bhunter2112:
When are we gettin some info and when is the release date? Yeah... go to the 1c site. nothin there nothin here. Oleg posts some old dev screenies from three years ago. yahoo
we need
a web site with a forum, weekly in game screenies, in game videos & dev video
a forum where questions can be answered & asked. info on game play. This way you create buzz and intrest and maybe increase intrest which increases sales!

Apparently you have not been to the 1C site, oleg has been answering questions, try this link: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2429
Latest round of answers was posted less that two weeks ago. Before you start bashing do your homework. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am presently working on a "Oleg decoder" I never can figure out anything he is saying.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

For instance WTF does this mean?

"Some sort of it. Not at all" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

EDCF_Rama
02-05-2008, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by willyvic:
And your information is from where?...please share with us. And don't link a 2 year old press release if you please.


From peoples working at Ubisoft.

willyvic
02-05-2008, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by EDCF_Rama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by willyvic:
And your information is from where?...please share with us. And don't link a 2 year old press release if you please.


From peoples working at Ubisoft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I see. Then I'll just have to take your word for it. Thank you.

WV

Copperhead311th
02-05-2008, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bhunter2112:
When are we gettin some info and when is the release date? Yeah... go to the 1c site. nothin there nothin here. Oleg posts some old dev screenies from three years ago. yahoo
we need
a web site with a forum, weekly in game screenies, in game videos & dev video
a forum where questions can be answered & asked. info on game play. This way you create buzz and intrest and maybe increase intrest which increases sales!

Apparently you have not been to the 1C site, oleg has been answering questions, try this link: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2429
Latest round of answers was posted less that two weeks ago. Before you start bashing do your homework. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am presently working on a "Oleg decoder" I never can figure out anything he is saying.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

For instance WTF does this mean?

"Some sort of it. Not at all" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

After all these years now..i'm pretty fluent in Oleg-ease. he simply means that:

"Yes part of this feature will be included. But not fully included."

in other words he's saying yes we're going to do this, but not to the fullest extent that you are expecting.

hope that helps. Russain and English don't tranlate perfectly. but i usually get what he means. Understanding Kurfurst however is a compleatly differant story and his english is quite good. rofl http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

leitmotiv
02-05-2008, 08:43 PM
Clearly, Oleg attended the Alan Greenspan School of Public Speaking.

What would help would be if he were to use a fluent English speaker from his team as a mouthpiece to the West. Ah, but that assumes he wants clarity! The muddier the waters, the better for him, he seems to think. Also, "code monkeys" do not tend to be the most gifted linguists---even in their own languages.

Skoshi Tiger
02-05-2008, 10:33 PM
Just some more screenshots of the tigermoth from BoB.


<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2040</pre>

Posted yesterday!

Skoshi Tiger
02-05-2008, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Also, "code monkeys" do not tend to be the most gifted linguists---even in their own languages.

Also a single oneoff statement like "sure we'll be able to include <insert wish here>!" by a 'code monkey' and it turns into 3 years of stress and grief on the part of the developers, missed release dates and accusations from the community saying they were not delivering what they said.

Until they've got something thats close to release they'ld be mad to say too much.

(as an ex-code monkey I know what it's like to be put on the spot and know the benefits of keeping my mouth shut!)

VMF-214_HaVoK
02-06-2008, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by bhunter2112:
Yes I have been to the 1c site yes Oleg gives a few vauge answers and info. We need a site with vids that can get on youtube and the like so potential customers can SEE it. Marketing 101.

I think Oleg and crew know what they are doing and could do without your expert advise. Some how magical we all own this game and found it just fine without it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

bhunter2112
02-06-2008, 10:47 AM
I found it because I WAS looking for a ww2 flight sim 6 years ago. Marketing is also for people who ARE NOT looking for it. Get the pics and vids out there !