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Raiden48
12-22-2003, 04:34 AM
Hi,

Ive noticed in BnZ dives that the P51s nose tends to go up, this is making my aim impossible since i must push the joystick way forward to keep the nose lowered and aim at the plane. So i wanted to ask if any of you P51 flyers have a solution for this problem?

Raiden48
12-22-2003, 04:34 AM
Hi,

Ive noticed in BnZ dives that the P51s nose tends to go up, this is making my aim impossible since i must push the joystick way forward to keep the nose lowered and aim at the plane. So i wanted to ask if any of you P51 flyers have a solution for this problem?

Extreme_One
12-22-2003, 04:36 AM
Trim. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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oFZo
12-22-2003, 04:36 AM
Yeah, it's called 'trim' http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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oFZo
12-22-2003, 04:37 AM
wow, posted at the same time http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Raiden48
12-22-2003, 06:42 AM
But when im not diving, doesnt that make the nose go down all the time? And can someone who flys P51s all the time pls say howmuch clicks of trim i need?
Btw, thanks for the link, but what do i learn from a USAAF mission, does it include tips or what?

Extreme_One
12-22-2003, 06:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Raiden48:
...Btw, thanks for the link, but what do i learn from a USAAF mission, does it include tips or what?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The link wasn't directed at you specifically mate, it's part of my sig.
Perhaps I should make it a bit clearer in that respect.

S! Simon

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olaleier
12-22-2003, 07:22 AM
Extreme_One, perhaps you should place the link below the pic in your sig?


And a note on diving, it's not a bad thing to dive with a tail-heavy plane (nose wants to go up), because it makes pulling out a lot easier.

As for number of clicks...hmm...just hold it down a sec or two, keep trimming while you're aiming. After I got TrackIR, I mapped trim to the hat (with a repeat fuction in the joystick prog) and it works alot smoother than the normal.

Here's the hat I mapped trim to:
http://www.mtc.ca.gov/images/ta09-1099/hat.jpg

Don't map trim to asshats.

Eagle_361st
12-22-2003, 11:08 AM
The amount of trim needed any any a/c is very dependant on your throttle settings, speed, prop pitch, fuel. It is constantly different on every a/c. It is best to just "feel" it out. I have not had any problems with this in either the P-47 or P-51 as they are all I fly. I have my planes trimmed fairly well before I even attempt to dive, that is the key.

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Vgamer_248th
12-22-2003, 12:07 PM
Another good place to map trim is to your mouse wheel, makes it a lot easier then using the keyboard.

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Lunix
12-22-2003, 02:42 PM
oh pooh pooh. While it may seem to make your aim difficult it is not impossible. Part of the fun of BnZ is pulling off those impossible shots. Like in the FW when you bury your target under the dash count to 3 and pull trigger only to see a plane zip through the crosshairs http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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VW-IceFire
12-22-2003, 03:29 PM
Lunix I know exactly what you mean. BnZ in a FW190 is all about guessing where the bandit is and firing at a target you can't even see hoping to pull up and away to find a target spinning to the ground.

I fly the P-51 alot and I can tell you its one of the easiest BNZ aircraft except for the slight lack of firepower compaired to a quad cannoned FW190 for instance. Seven or eight taps to the keyboard should give you a nice high speed trim which you'll need to reset (you can key control it or tap the opposite number) for level flight. You find this alot more with the Mustang usually because of the sheer acceleration in a dive. Just figure it out and practice a bit and you'll feel perfectly comfortable.

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Maple_Tiger
12-22-2003, 05:31 PM
I personnely dont bother with trim most of the time. All i have done so far is tone down my pitch settings by 1. Otherwize my gun site bounce's around so bad i cant line up a shot.

Mayby i will trim a bit just to see if it makes linning up my shots easier.