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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 06:11 AM
Greetings Forum User!

The Management of the Ubi Forums would like to request a few moments of your time to complete this satisfaction survey regarding the thread "P-47 guns vs the Tiger Tank etc..." Your answers to this survey will help us better understand you, the customer, and assist us in continuing to provide a rewarding and enjoyable forum experience.

1. When did you first hear about the P-47 guns vs the Tiger Tank etc... thread?

a. one day ago
b. 2 days ago
c. more than 2 days ago
d. can't remember

2. If you posted more than once to this thread, how many times did you post?

a. 8 - 15
b. 16 - 29
c. 30 -50
d. I'll keep posting until its locked

3. How many times did you call someone else who posted an "a$$hat"?

a. 0
b. 2 - 8
c. 9 - 20
d. None of your business, a$$hat!

4. How many pages of the thread did you read?

a. less than one
b. first page only
c. last page only
d. all of them, a$$hat

5. Before you read the thread, did you believe that a P-47 could knock out a Tiger with its .50 cals?

a. Yes
b. Probably Yes
c. No
d. You're kidding, right?

6. What is the most convincing argument against a P-47 knocking out a Tiger with its .50 cals (choose all that apply)?

a. Tigers were virtually indistructable
b. I once held a .50 cal bullet in my hand
c. The P-47 was a fighter, not a ground attack aircraft
d. Tom Hanks destroyed it with his .45
e. Tigers were Nazi, P-47 were Allies. Nuff said.

7. In which hypothetical future thread would you be most likely to post in?

a. "The FW-190 in FB ruined my life"
b. "How does oil pressure affect engine longevity?"
c. "Why is RBJ such an A$$HAT?"
d. "What do you think is better, BF1942 or The Sims?"
b. "If Germany had attacked Japan instead of the USSR, who would have won the war?"

Once again, UbiSoft thanks you for participating in this survey.

The Management

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 06:11 AM
Greetings Forum User!

The Management of the Ubi Forums would like to request a few moments of your time to complete this satisfaction survey regarding the thread "P-47 guns vs the Tiger Tank etc..." Your answers to this survey will help us better understand you, the customer, and assist us in continuing to provide a rewarding and enjoyable forum experience.

1. When did you first hear about the P-47 guns vs the Tiger Tank etc... thread?

a. one day ago
b. 2 days ago
c. more than 2 days ago
d. can't remember

2. If you posted more than once to this thread, how many times did you post?

a. 8 - 15
b. 16 - 29
c. 30 -50
d. I'll keep posting until its locked

3. How many times did you call someone else who posted an "a$$hat"?

a. 0
b. 2 - 8
c. 9 - 20
d. None of your business, a$$hat!

4. How many pages of the thread did you read?

a. less than one
b. first page only
c. last page only
d. all of them, a$$hat

5. Before you read the thread, did you believe that a P-47 could knock out a Tiger with its .50 cals?

a. Yes
b. Probably Yes
c. No
d. You're kidding, right?

6. What is the most convincing argument against a P-47 knocking out a Tiger with its .50 cals (choose all that apply)?

a. Tigers were virtually indistructable
b. I once held a .50 cal bullet in my hand
c. The P-47 was a fighter, not a ground attack aircraft
d. Tom Hanks destroyed it with his .45
e. Tigers were Nazi, P-47 were Allies. Nuff said.

7. In which hypothetical future thread would you be most likely to post in?

a. "The FW-190 in FB ruined my life"
b. "How does oil pressure affect engine longevity?"
c. "Why is RBJ such an A$$HAT?"
d. "What do you think is better, BF1942 or The Sims?"
b. "If Germany had attacked Japan instead of the USSR, who would have won the war?"

Once again, UbiSoft thanks you for participating in this survey.

The Management

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 06:17 AM
GRRR THS THREAD IS SO STUPID YOU KNOW TEH P47S GUNS CXAN KILL A TIGE TANK I CAN KILL HTE LAWnMOVER WITH ONE SHOT YOU HERD ME ONE SHOT!!! IT BLOWS UP. SO OF COURD EIT COULD KILL A TIGER TANK!!!! they WOULD BOUCE THE BULETS OFF THE ROAD AN DDESTROY TEH ENGINE AND THEN IT WOUDL EXPLODE!!! LIKW MY MOWER NOw I GOTTA BUY A NEW MOWRE CUZ MY GRASS IS RELY BIG NOW. THE %0 cal bullets AREW BIG OF COURSE THEY AN KILL IT EVEN TOM HANKS KILLED IT IWTH A PITSOTL!!! A4$HAT

O AND IM NOT AKING TYOUR COMMIE SERVAY ETHIER GRRRRRR

AND DONT TRY TO ARGUEW WTH THIS BECUS I HAV PROOF TOO SE THE CHAT SAY IT CNA GO THORUGH LOTS OF ARMOR!!!!!!

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Message Edited on 06/30/0311:32PM by StG77_Fennec

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 06:34 AM
If Tom Hanks can blow up a Tiger, anybody can. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 06:39 AM
I read a lot of it yesterday. I personally stand with the belief that it was somewhat possible. Although those who oppose the idea did in some instances provide very convincing and plausable reasoning. If you just think about the idea through somewhat 'common' thought and reasoning if you will, it does seem pretty far-fetched, but I believe that the Law of Interia and the fact that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

I think that to some effect that both sides are right to some affect, but opverall the "believers" come out on top. Let's face it when a P-47 came in on a strafing run and firing all 8 of it's .50's it wasn't that accurate and there was hitting everywhere on and around the target, in this case a tank and in some instances a Tiger, so it's quite possible that rounds penetrated through the top of the engine compartment as well as below.

As far as the footage it concerned if you watch gun camera film from Pacific Theatre you'll see .50 cal tracer rounds skipping off of the water at almost any angle, whether it's from a Hellcat in a dive against a destroyer, anti-aircraft crews firing at enemy planes or B-25's spraying Japanese ships with up to 14 .50's and according to the reasoning of some people a harder or denser object bouncing off of a softer or less dense one. Well water is about as thinly dense as you get (not including Saturn of course /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )

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There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns and those who dig. Start digging.

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 06:54 AM
1. c
2. -
3. a
4. a
5. b
6. a
7. a


As for the skipping bullets under a Tiger, I believe it. Those bullets skip like the dickens off of anything and everything. If you've seen the history channels WWII in Color series they had a P-47 show where they show an attack on a grass airfield, and those tracers (all that your eyes and brain could track) were bouncing off mostly strait, with the occasional odd ricochet.

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 06:57 AM
this also needs to be in the P47 vs tiger thread

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 07:28 AM
i find it hard to understand how a large orange and black puss cat could be immune to bullets

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 10:03 AM
This is pure genius! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



-jippo


Ps.

1b
2b
3a
4d
5d
6b
7d

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 10:10 AM
1. d
2. d
3. a
4. c
5. d
6. d
7. b


LOL /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 10:14 AM
IMHO a Tiger's 88 could destroy a Jug if aim very carefully /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Tully__
07-01-2003, 10:35 AM
Nice /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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