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HotelBushranger
01-28-2005, 08:07 AM
When you set an aircraft on fire, shouldn't the fire eventually envelop the entire aircraft. I'm sure that would have prompted the pilot to eject, haveing you kite burnt to cinders within minutes

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bwahahahah

cheers,
HBR

HotelBushranger
01-28-2005, 08:07 AM
When you set an aircraft on fire, shouldn't the fire eventually envelop the entire aircraft. I'm sure that would have prompted the pilot to eject, haveing you kite burnt to cinders within minutes

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bwahahahah

cheers,
HBR

Ritter_Cuda
01-28-2005, 08:52 AM
I have seen in the online game... "pilot x burn to death" so it seem that they do burn up
Cuda

HotelBushranger
01-28-2005, 08:56 AM
Oh well, im talkin bout offline

kalaluth
01-28-2005, 09:04 AM
During Battle of Britain, one of them did not bailed out immediatly, but prefered to shoot down his Bf-110 first. This pretty idea asserted him the Victoria Cross (and new customed face and hands)...

So that sometimes....

Philip

Gawwad
01-28-2005, 09:36 AM
Yesterday I was flying a B25 and my fuel tank was set on fire by a Fw and the fire speard to 2 other fuel tanks.

IL2-chuter
01-28-2005, 12:35 PM
I've had fires (fuel tank) that burned out when I ran out of gas, then engine quits, I glide back to base, orbit into pattern, then on short final when I'm too low to bail, the plane re-ignites and I burn to death on runway during rollout.

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It's happenned twice now. I have no idea whats catching fire the second time. Oh well.

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Tobus75
01-28-2005, 03:35 PM
Your nice sheep-skin pilotsjacket I guess? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Latico
01-28-2005, 10:29 PM
Or that pint of whiskey you had stashed behind the seat.

IL2-chuter
01-29-2005, 12:49 PM
Note: Any consumables are consumed LONG before the fire re-ignites (I might crash, then it would go to waste, eh?). And the jacket's ditched early on due to a run-away cockpit heater . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Baffled (still) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

ColoradoBBQ
01-29-2005, 01:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IL2-chuter:
I've had fires (fuel tank) that burned out when I ran out of gas, then engine quits, I glide back to base, orbit into pattern, then on short final when I'm too low to bail, the plane re-ignites and I burn to death on runway during rollout.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

It's happenned twice now. I have no idea whats catching fire the second time. Oh well.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its hard to believe but your aircraft can catch fire easily. That's why you see people scrambling out of high performance vehicles when there's a fire because certain materials used can burn rapidly. IF you want proof, look for a story where they tried to recover a B-17 that had to land in Greenland. THey put everything back together and the APU caught fire during takeoff. THey didn't have any firefighting gear so they had to watch the plane burn down to ashes.

flyplenty
01-29-2005, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
When you set an aircraft on fire, shouldn't the fire eventually envelop the entire aircraft. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's what I expected when I nursed a Beaufighter back home with its left engine on fire (http://img192.exs.cx/img192/3783/pf3529qf.jpg). The fire grew a little, but the plane still held together after half an hour when I finally bailed out over friendly territory... It's a very sturdy plane, I guess.

IL2-chuter
01-29-2005, 04:55 PM
P.S. I got my pilot's license in '76 and my mechanic's license in '86. I know some airplanes and their systems http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif . Maybe a hot electrical system/battery could get somethin' goin' again . . . or not ALL of the fuel was burned the first time around and there was a fair amount of unusable left . . . just weird. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Also, fuel or oil based fires are going to burn through aluminum pretty quick, as in a few minutes as opposed to a half hour, unless parts of the structure were insulated or shielded somehow. As far as the Beaufighter, could be, though, I guess. . . but a fire for a half hour? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

. . .Pre-ordered my Brothers in Arms . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Have a wonderful day!

Shakthamac
01-29-2005, 11:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ColoradoBBQ:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IL2-chuter:
I've had fires (fuel tank) that burned out when I ran out of gas, then engine quits, I glide back to base, orbit into pattern, then on short final when I'm too low to bail, the plane re-ignites and I burn to death on runway during rollout.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

It's happenned twice now. I have no idea whats catching fire the second time. Oh well.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its hard to believe but your aircraft can catch fire easily. That's why you see people scrambling out of high performance vehicles when there's a fire because certain materials used can burn rapidly. IF you want proof, look for a story where they tried to recover a B-17 that had to land in Greenland. THey put everything back together and the APU caught fire during takeoff. THey didn't have any firefighting gear so they had to watch the plane burn down to ashes. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

that was actually a b29 named the "Kee Bird." the pilot, darryl greenameyer (sp?) also lost his chief mechanic who died on his first try to get that plane. pbs did like a 2 hr broadcast on the whole series of events that was really quite interesting

F4U_Flyer
01-30-2005, 12:00 AM
There is an option in the control settings for fire extinguisher! Has anyone tried it and does it work? might save the old barbeque on the strip!

IL2-chuter
01-30-2005, 02:33 AM
Just the bigger multi's (and i guess not all of them) have extinguishers. And (subject change, kinda) KeeBird (B-29) had its APU gas tank moved away from the APU (a V-twin gas motor just forward of the tail) because it was a known fire hazzard (Airforce ops) and they (Greenemyer's guys) strapped it to the underside of the stabilizer (inside the fuselage) and used a rubber hose to connect the two. After the engines were started they forgot, I guess, to turn off the APU and with all the jostling on unbulldozed ice (because they were out of time) while turning the aircraft around for takeoff . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif . . . the APU fuel tank (or just the line, maybe) came undone and . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif . . . spilled fuel in the aft fuselage which went forward . . . to the running (or, at least, still hot) . . . APU . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

stansdds
01-30-2005, 09:24 AM
The loss of KeeBird was just a stupid mistake, but that is what happens when you begin to rush things. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

As for fires in aircraft, there are lots of things that burn, in fact, most things in an aircraft can burn nicely. You might put out an engine fire with CO2, but you still have fabric coverings on the wings that can smolder and reignite, wiring insulation smolders nicely, rubber seals and lines, hydraulic fluid, motor oil, magnesium, aluminum, so you might think the fire is out, but if any of these things are still smoking a little, the fire can come back.

By the way, liquid gasoline does not burn all that well, but the vapor is ultra easy to ignite, so an empty gas tank, unless it is has been vented of all vapors or filled with CO2 is a bomb just waiting to be detonated.