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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 06:16 PM
I've had this joystick for a while now and now the twist action has gone on the fritz. I've often read these joysticks are prone to problems with the twist potentiometer, so I'd like to open it up and chance the potentiometer. Before I do that though, I was wondering if someone around here could tell me what kind of potentiometer I'll need and maybe give me some tips on how to go about this.

Any info appreciated... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 06:16 PM
I've had this joystick for a while now and now the twist action has gone on the fritz. I've often read these joysticks are prone to problems with the twist potentiometer, so I'd like to open it up and chance the potentiometer. Before I do that though, I was wondering if someone around here could tell me what kind of potentiometer I'll need and maybe give me some tips on how to go about this.

Any info appreciated... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 06:24 PM
A little lube on the current pot should suffice.
Just take the screws in the handle out and then pull down on the under snap and ease it apart.
I only open it about a inch to an inch.
A flashlight and a canned lube with a straw attachment is all you need.
A little maintenance and it'll last a long long time.



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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 07:58 PM
Thanks Gemini, I'll try that and see if it helps.

XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 08:06 PM
You're welcome, good luck.


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XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 10:50 PM
BpGemini wrote:
- A little lube on the current pot should suffice.

Make sure it is electrical lubricant (e.g. Servisol)
not oil!

XyZspineZyX
08-18-2003, 11:20 PM
AaronGT wrote:
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- BpGemini wrote:
-- A little lube on the current pot should suffice.
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- Make sure it is electrical lubricant (e.g. Servisol)
- not oil!



What he said.

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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 05:52 PM
I was wondering: why is it that I should use electrical lubricant and not oil? I went to the local DIY store and they didn't even know what I was talking about, so getting electrical lubricant is out of the question.
So why is it I should only use electrical lubricant, and are there any alternatives?

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 06:01 PM
I use White Lithium Grease in a spray can.
It helps protect electrical points without causing issues (advertises its ability to prevent battery terminals from corrosion).

I think Raven may have used oil and not had a problem though IIRC.
Let me check with him at the Sty.



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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 06:08 PM
I have Carlube Spray Grease, would that do?
If possible do ask Raven anyway. And thanks Gemini for all the help /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 06:12 PM
I'm not so sure, it might short or corrode things in there, I'd go with lithium grease, it's almost completely unreactive and it lasts for a while.

-McTriggerhappy

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 06:15 PM
Hmmmm... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Doesn't sound good.
Guess I'll wait for Gemini to confirm whether oil is OK.
Any ETA on that BTW? I was kinda hoping to get this done today.

McTriggerhappy wrote:
- I'm not so sure, it might short or corrode things in
- there, I'd go with lithium grease, it's almost
- completely unreactive and it lasts for a while.
-
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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 06:19 PM
Raven used WD40 instead of oil.
I like the White Lithium best.






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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 06:31 PM
So basically, no one knows whether the only two lubricants I have handy (machine oil and spray grease) are safe to use on the joystick? Bummer...
Well, thanks for the help anyway. Guess I'll be the first to find out if oil is safe...

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 06:50 PM
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Just go buy some White Lithium grease at the hardware store.


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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:19 PM
Well, I did it with oil. Took me a while too to get that bugger together again. Whew... talk about hard work... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
So anyway, twist seems to be working now - at least temporarily. I'm not sure it's because of the oil (I'll spare you the details of why I'm not sure - it's a long story), but it's working. And I've proven that oil is safe for joysticks! Woohoo! Hooray for me! The end of discrimination in oil-joystick relationship everywhere! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

So anyway, I'm happy now. Thanks again Gemini and everyone else for the help! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:25 PM
You're welcome.


If you smell oil burning..... RUN!


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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:46 PM
On the other hand, it might add realism when my engine's shot up and I'm leaking oil... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

What does burning oil smell like anyway?
Wait... what's that smell? Oh my god! My joyst...

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BpGemini wrote:
- If you smell oil burning..... RUN!
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