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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 08:40 PM
I know this is somewhat off the topic of Il-2, but I have a question reguarding what happens when one is flying in rotating storms.

Basically, if one is flying directly out from the center of the storm, does the aircraft have a tendancy to rise or fall, and is the tendency dependant on which way the storm is rotating?

Basically, we are working on force vector fields in Emag, but it should be possible to describe a hurricain, or other wind storm as a force vector field.

One of the implications of this, is that clockwise rotating hurricain should exert a strong downward force, as you try to fly out of it, and a strong upward force, as you fly into it.

Conversly, it is implied a counter-clockwise rotating Typhoon, should throw you upwards as you are flying out of it, and downwards as you are flying in.

However, I do not have enough information on bad weather flying to verify this, so I thought I'd ask here.

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 08:40 PM
I know this is somewhat off the topic of Il-2, but I have a question reguarding what happens when one is flying in rotating storms.

Basically, if one is flying directly out from the center of the storm, does the aircraft have a tendancy to rise or fall, and is the tendency dependant on which way the storm is rotating?

Basically, we are working on force vector fields in Emag, but it should be possible to describe a hurricain, or other wind storm as a force vector field.

One of the implications of this, is that clockwise rotating hurricain should exert a strong downward force, as you try to fly out of it, and a strong upward force, as you fly into it.

Conversly, it is implied a counter-clockwise rotating Typhoon, should throw you upwards as you are flying out of it, and downwards as you are flying in.

However, I do not have enough information on bad weather flying to verify this, so I thought I'd ask here.

Harry Voyager

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 08:54 PM
I thought you were talking about flying Hurricanes, Typhoons, and other Hawker aircraft!

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 09:07 PM
Not to mention Tempests.

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 09:18 PM
Not to mention 'Whirlwinds'

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 09:25 PM
I was also thinking Tempests, Typhoons, and Hurricanes but more of the propeller with wings kind.

I doubt its easy to predict what would happen flying into one of those storms. Would be hard to say if you would gain alt or loose it. Probably the structural integrity of the plane would also be heavily tested with the turbulence.

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 10:05 PM
when you exit a a larg rotating air mass it is only logical to fly into the direction the wind is blowing from (more lift) if you fly in the same direction the wind is heading it would be the same as loosing that amount of air speed (150 mph 240 kph) therfore a rapid loss in altitude would happen..... to fly at a right angle to the direction would certainly be unwise direction of rotation is not important of course if the above is followed .........is that what you were asking?

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