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Hoatee
08-27-2007, 06:14 AM
Nvidia's 168.10 drivers now enable edimensional's 3D glasses to be used with IL2 Sturmovik 1946 flawlessly - to the extent that edimensional's own drivers no longer have to be used (so it's goodbye to dark interleaving screens).

Life is bliss...

ps - ehhh, typo error with version number - should be 168.50.

DD_crash
08-27-2007, 06:40 AM
How good are they??

K_Freddie
08-27-2007, 10:12 AM
I'm still waiting for the 640x480 res glasses at a decent price. AFAIK the highest res at the mo, is a dissapointing 320x240
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

J_A_M_F_
08-27-2007, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by K_Freddie:
I'm still waiting for the 640x480 res glasses at a decent price. AFAIK the highest res at the mo, is a dissapointing 320x240
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif I think 800x600 is available at a decent price, but it always depends on your budget.

Have a look here: http://www.cybermindnl.com/ (Dutch store)

Schutze_S
08-27-2007, 11:08 AM
3D Display Res (per eye) (pixels) 1280x1024 (sxga)

http://www.inition.com/inition/images/product_hmd_rockwellcollins_sr80.jpg

Rockwell Collins ProView SR80 Price tag, a whopping 16315

I guess that sometime in the future we will all be donning this type of kit.

Rockwell Collins Sim Eye XL100A 75000 Lol

http://www.inition.com/inition/images/product_hmd_kaiser_simeye100a.jpg

HMD's range from:

http://www.inition.com/inition/products.php?CatID_=8

Choctaw111
08-27-2007, 12:49 PM
I have Edimensional's 3d glasses (had them for almost 4 years now) and used them for a short time with many problems. I am not even sure where they are right now. When I could get them to work they provided a wonderful 3d effect, which was adjustable to how much 3d effect you wanted. It was truly stunning to see the AC "jumping out at you" in front of the background scenery...when it worked.

BrotherVoodoo
08-27-2007, 04:21 PM
I have Edimensional's 3d glasses (had them for almost 4 years now) and used them for a short time with many problems. I am not even sure where they are right now. When I could get them to work they provided a wonderful 3d effect, which was adjustable to how much 3d effect you wanted. It was truly stunning to see the AC "jumping out at you" in front of the background scenery...when it worked.

Pretty much ditto here, with the addition of a dull headache after more than 30 mins of use. Could be very cool but seemed more like a gimmic IMO. I haven't dug mine out in years. I do remember it affected my aim in combat but the effect was interesting in short durations.

Jaws2002
08-27-2007, 05:18 PM
The place where i got my TrackIR had some really cool hardware.

Some awesome head mounted displays with built in head tracking.

Check it out:

Cyber World (http://www.cwonline.com/store/view_category.asp)

search the product categories.



http://www.cwonline.com/store/view_product.asp?Product=1295
other cool toys:http://www.cwonline.com/store/view_product.asp?Product=1219

Hoatee
08-28-2007, 03:50 AM
My system is an oldish Fujitsu Siemens Scaleo 600i with a P4 cpu running at 2.6 ghz, 2gb ram and an Nvidia (asus actually) 7600GS card with 256mb onboard (4 x AGP) hooked up to a crt monitor.

'Til very recently, I was using driver version 93.71, the stereo version of which was unable to work with IL2 Sturmovik 1946 (other games worked fine with the glasses). So I had to make do with edimensional's own drivers which offered only interleaving rendering (resulting in an overall darker image).

Then I decided to change the dpi from 96 to 120 which started something of a nightmare for me (endless series of re/deinstalling drivers and blue screens of apparent lifenessness).

But eventually I got sorted with these brand spanking new drivers (168.50) and believe me IL2 Sturmovik 1946 plays perfectly - and now in full glorious 3d stereo.

The only hassle is that the settings for stereo can't be gotten at 'cos Nvidia's gui has changed totally. Apparently a registry tweak will bring the old look back. If you don't want to fiddle with the registry (I don't), make a note of all the key combinations for the various parametrs on paper before upgrading from older drivers (from 93.71, for example).

In my previous posts, I was already enthousiastic about edimensional's glasses - but they are really picture perfect with this game now with the 168.50 drivers (everything else is a question of taste).

btw - screen resolution is set to 1024 x 768 pixels, 32 bit colour and graphics settings ingame set to excellent with glasses on (image quality on card set to performance) and no stutter - ingame perfect mode is interstingly not greyed out but I haven't even tried the glasses under that mode - yet.

ps : excellent is about as high as it will go. And 85hz is ok for viewing stereo.

mrsiCkstar
08-28-2007, 04:33 AM
you got me interested in these... but what's the image quality like compared to a monitor?

oh and my screen is 60Hz... would this be a huge problem?

B16Enk
08-28-2007, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by mrsiCkstar:
you got me interested in these... but what's the image quality like compared to a monitor?

oh and my screen is 60Hz... would this be a huge problem?

THe Edimensional glasses are shutters, not monitor replacements.
They use your existing screen, and by alternating the left/right shutter (LCDs that go black to form the shutter) in co-ordination with the nVidia 3D driver they give the 3d effect.

60Hz would be too slow, 100 + is ideal.

My glasses got the cable severed, time to get out the soldering iron and see if I can make 'em work again.

Irish_Rogues
08-28-2007, 07:27 AM
Aren't most if not all LCD monitors 60Hz? I see they say the "latest version" now supports LCD monitors. I wonder what that means?

I can't help but think that some added depth perception could only help my poor skills. What's one more piece of "geek wear" as my better half calls it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

mrsiCkstar
08-28-2007, 10:16 AM
yeah my old CRT went up to 100Hz but my new LCD is 60Hz...

J_A_M_F_
08-28-2007, 01:52 PM
LCD Shutter glasses do NOT work together with LCD screens.

3D LCD shutter glasses require CRT monitors or (AFAIK) a DLP beamer or DLP-RPTV.

Irish_Rogues
08-28-2007, 02:59 PM
I don't know one way or the other but straight of their website:


Exclusive support for all video cards and both CRT and LCD monitors.

System Requirements for Gaming:
Windows PC 95/98/ME/2000/XP
CRT or LCD external monitor with VGA connection (no laptop screens)

Lurch1962
08-28-2007, 06:58 PM
Here's an interesting HMD which uses multiple microdisplays to achieve up to a 180 degree view angle! Talk about immersion!

http://www.sensics.com/products/pisight.php

--Lurch--