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Superjew1
06-16-2009, 07:39 AM
Ok, show n tell time! Ive always been really proud of the brand I chose, although I do not think my stick has "Force Feedback" something that I wish it had considering how much I paid for it.

Here is my Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS setup, all stock, no modifications. Anyway I can add force feedback or is there no customization for that?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/sirscrotum/0616090822.jpg

And probably the rarest set of Pedals on the whole forum, I had to look for months on ebay (although iRONICALLY they are up for sale at about 1/3rd the price I Paid on Ebay right NOW, so I strongly recommend these pedals if you need a pair http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R4...t=See-All-Categories (http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=Rudder+Control+System&_sacat=See-All-Categories)) They came out in the early 1990's, doesnt even have a USB, uses an oldskool Gameport adapter.

Thrustmaster Rudder Control System

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/sirscrotum/0616090822a.jpg

Luckily my Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS has a gameport adapter so I didnt need to put a USB/Gameport adapter on the pedals.

I know Ive probably made a past thread several months ago on this but Im really proud of my setup.

I broke off the plastic runners on my pedals early on into ownership and they now sometimes run into the allen bolt and metal edges making it hard to push them if you have a heavy foot. I dont know why they made most of everything of high quality metal and then threw on some really easy to break plastic runners on them, other than the plastic runners they were pretty high quality. Im thinking of customizing them with sheet metal runners to eliminate that problem and have an even higher quality set of pedals in the end.

Although my Dad who was a real pilot complains that we have to pull one foot backward and push the other foot forward to get the pedals to move the rudder which is not how a real airplanes rudder pedals work, whereas if I had gotten the CH Pedals they would probably be more realistic in that I would just have to push one foot down to get the rudder to move. Hopefully the metal runners will help fix that.

Freiwillige
06-17-2009, 01:44 AM
Not a bad set up.
I used to have the Saitek X-45 and a pair of CH rudder pedals but my old roomate started dating a Meth addict and soon anything that wasnt bolted down in that house was goooone. Including my P.C.! So I acked my stuff and started over, built me a new and better rig and got me a Walmart $20 joystick, Saitek ST-290.

But soon I will be getting a new Hotas setup.

Tully__
06-17-2009, 03:46 AM
Those Thrustmaster pedals used to be moderately common 10 years ago. USB killed them and Thrustmaster never bothered with a USB version.

Bearcat99
06-17-2009, 05:51 AM
http://file.walagata.com/w/bearcat/100_2686_0.JPG

http://file.walagata.com/w/bearcat/X-45mod.jpg
Closeup of the modded X-45

FoolTrottel
06-17-2009, 07:08 AM
Guillemot ForceFeedback Joystick
(Rubber belts drive the forces... can't beat that)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/GuillemotFFB.jpg

Homebuilt controller box (3 Joysticks are in there, well, the electronics from 'm, and I've added some more buttons and sliders in the meantime, as well replaced some stock pots with home-built-Hal-sensor-magnetics stuff)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/Controller001.jpg

Homebuilt rudder pedals, in the meantime those have been heavily changed, and also got the Hal-sensor option in 'm...http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/Pedals002.jpg

Choctaw111
06-17-2009, 07:21 AM
I had posted these a couple years ago and not much has changed since then.
I have a CH Fighterstick and a heavily modified Pro Throttle which uses additional parts from a cannibalized Throttle Quadrant.
I also use the Pro Pedals and I TrackIR3. I got it right when they were release and still works like a charm. When it finally dies I will replace it with a newer version.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/SimChair.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/Potato3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/Potato1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/Switches1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/Fighterstick.jpg
My Archie Bunker style chair from the 70's is still going strong despite some obvious wear. I snagged it from my old barracks shortly before they demolished it.

x6BL_Brando
06-17-2009, 09:12 AM
Here's an oldish picture of the Franken-Tripehound HOTAS that I built a few years ago - southpaw handle courtesy of Mark Fletcher.
It's made up of a CH Fighterstick, Pro pedals, and the innards and some parts of a second fighterstick. I designed and built it because I have no right arm but I wanted as much on the stick buttons as possible. It works well.
My friend Mark also fitted a pot in the head of the stick which I use for the throttle. TrackIR 3Pro finishes it all off nicely. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/brando6BL/stickview_top.jpg

UgoRipley
06-17-2009, 02:01 PM
They are not "my" pics, but they do depict what's in my arsenal:

Cougar (Evenstrain mod)
http://cougar.frugalsworld.com/images/cougar/Seong-Ho_FLCS2.jpg

http://cougar.frugalsworld.com/images/cougar/Seong-Ho_TQS2.jpg

SIMPED rudders gameport version (R.I.P. Dieter)
http://www.dhs-electronic.de/img/produkte/6_f16c_real.jpg

Lilliput FA-801 Touchscreen (with TouchBuddy software and WBK's IL-2 excellent profile)
http://www.lilliputweb.net/big/fa801.jpg

TrackIR4 + TrackClip Pro + TrackIR5 software Beta4
5.1 Creative audio
SyncMaster 226BW

Superjew1
06-17-2009, 02:07 PM
Just thought I would show the new toys I got just the other day, a G15 keyboard and some big can headphones (steelseries Siberia)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/sirscrotum/0617091452.jpg

Choctaw111
06-17-2009, 09:03 PM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/sirscrotum/0617091452.jpg

What were you eating?

T_O_A_D
06-17-2009, 09:19 PM
Potato Salad is my guess.

I was more concerned on the effect the Lava lamp has on his mood when trying to be a killer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

here is my setup, nothing fancy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/IL2%20AEP%20PF%20pics/DSC00505.jpg

Ritter_Cuda
06-17-2009, 09:39 PM
here is mine
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/RitterCuda/sig%20folder/simpit.jpg
and the switch boxes
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/RitterCuda/sig%20folder/image001.jpg

Waldo.Pepper
06-17-2009, 09:45 PM
You can never have enough rotaries.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/joystick/rotaries2.jpg

So I added a few more to the throttle of my X-52.

norton1974
06-17-2009, 09:46 PM
http://i870.photobucket.com/al...rton1974/simpit3.jpg (http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/norton1974/simpit3.jpg)

DrHerb
06-17-2009, 10:03 PM
holy cow Cuda, thats some serious overkill! Nice setup

Superjew1
06-18-2009, 12:28 AM
I didnt realize how many people customized their flight controls. Did you make those switch boxxes yourself Cuda? Cool setup, I take it you like flying multiengined airplanes because of all the throttles you have.

My setup is only good for single engined fighters, Im not one for flying bombers.

What are rotaries for pepper?

Nice custom stick norton, Im sure that helps to add to the imersion.

Amazing some of you are on dinky CRT monitors and are into flight simming.

julian265
06-18-2009, 01:05 AM
Based around a BU0836, a fantastic GNU head tracker, a car's universal joint, real joystick grip, and a car's electric window and mirror control panel.

http://www.jpfiles.com/hardware/all2.jpg

http://www.jpfiles.com/hardware/pedals2.jpg

http://www.jpfiles.com/hardware/tq.jpg

Superjew1
06-18-2009, 01:31 AM
WTF??? Im amazed that so many people are use to making custom setups, Im not that mechanically inclined or inventive myself to make my own flight controls. And I use to think I was thinking outside the box for replacing the crappy plastic runners on my pedals with some steel plated ones, but now I reallize that I am nothing compared to most of you.

Do you prefer your homebuilt custom controls over store bought ones? I mean I guess if they do the job than thats good enough right?

mmitch10
06-18-2009, 01:50 AM
Saitek Cyborg Evo FFB, Saitek rudder pedals, and a home made switch box (BU086). The buttons aren't labelled because I have different laminate cut-outs depending on what game I'm playing.

The three rotaries are mapped to trim, the levers are throttle, pitch and mixture (in 10% bands)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee214/mmitch10/ThrottleQuad002s.jpg

NuMcA_of_CS
06-18-2009, 03:42 AM
My "Flight Console" (with BU0836), EEE-PC 900 (for UDSpeed/Devicelink) and Logitech Force 3D Pro (waiting for X52 to arrive):

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Konsola/DSCF1016-1.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Konsola/th_DSCF1016.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Konsola/DSCF1016.jpg) http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Konsola/th_DSCF1025.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Konsola/DSCF1025.jpg)

More "Flight Console" photos: http://s202.photobucket.com/al...sola/?albumview=grid (http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Konsola/?albumview=grid)

My home-made Rudder Pedals:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Pedals/Pedals033.jpg

Old version: <span class="ev_code_GREY">_ ______</span> Upgraded ToeBrakes:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Pedals/th_Spiti008.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Pedals/Spiti008.jpg) http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Pedals/th_Pedals020.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/klapatsimbanos/Pedals/Pedals020.jpg)

bolox00
06-18-2009, 04:19 AM
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/bolox00/pit/th_wide1.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/bolox00/pit/?action=view&current=wide1.jpg)


view above desk- with old cougar
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/bolox00/pit/th_100_1121.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/bolox00/pit/?action=view&current=100_1121.jpg)


tarmac aces stick and throttle, simped pedals homebuilt switches/trim wheels run through a beta innovations (rip) plasmalite for 88 extra buttons, instruments on lower screen run through devicelink

rfxcasey
06-18-2009, 07:11 AM
Hey julian what web cam are you using for your head track setup? It looks like the Microsoft lifecam but what model. Did you have to remove the IR filter and if you did how difficult was that.

I would really be interested in more specifics on how you guys make your own controller. Are you using the circuit boarded of other controllers as the basis? If not how are you interfacing the controls to the pc? Any and all information anyone is willing to share would be a great service. There really needs to be a web site dedicated to this sort of thing.

mmitch10
06-18-2009, 07:38 AM
Most people either use the circuitry from old joysticks or a dedicated USB controller like Leo Bodnar's BU086.

You'll find a lot more information here:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...9310655/m/5271012437 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/5271012437)

Ritter_Cuda
06-18-2009, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Superjew1:
I didnt realize how many people customized their flight controls. Did you make those switch boxxes yourself Cuda? Cool setup, I take it you like flying multiengined airplanes because of all the throttles you have.

My setup is only good for single engined fighters, Im not one for flying bombers.



yes I built the boxes never can have too many axis

Ritter_Cuda
06-18-2009, 07:55 AM
I would really be interested in more specifics on how you guys make your own controller. Are you using the circuit boarded of other controllers as the basis? If not how are you interfacing the controls to the pc? Any and all information anyone is willing to share would be a great service. There really needs to be a web site dedicated to this sort of thing.
I tore apart a 5 dollar keyboard(find at a thrift store) to make my boxes after I was done one of my squad mate asked why I did not just relable the keys> .... Duh

Superjew1
06-18-2009, 09:57 AM
Hey numca_cs I was wondering if you could build a second board just like the one you have for me? If so how much would it cost?

I think I would enjoy having it if I ever got into flying multiengined airplanes plus my dad is getting into flight simming too so he would probably like it as well.

squareusr
06-18-2009, 10:40 AM
http://immaterialien.de/pics/stick/pinkiebrake.jpeg
Lots of bicycle parts in this picture, the stick gimbal is running on hubs you would usually find on a racing bike.

Right hand has four buttons, two pairs of double-triggers made from brake levers and a third brake lever that is actually used as a brake, with a hall effect sensor set to the IL2 brake axis.

Left hand has an X52 Pro throttle (found on ebay without the stick) a control box made from an old Logi with a broken touchpad that has been replaced by another touchpad in a much more comfortable position between the throttle an the controller box. Nice for operating the in-game map.

Pedals are primitive, just flat boards sliding on drawer rails, but with the brake on the stick that's all you need. If you are flying more red than blue a brake on the stick can even be more historical than toe brakes.

One slider on the box and the small rotary on the throttle are actually idling... i think you can have too many axis http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Waldo.Pepper
06-18-2009, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Superjew1:
What are rotaries for pepper?


The stock 'thumb' rotary on the throttle is for elevator trim (of course). The 'top' rotary I have set for rudder trim, as the (geometric) plane that this axis operated in matches the (geometric) plane of the rudder. [It seems natural to me that way.]

The two right most additional rotaries are for prop pitch and mixture. The left most rotary is for aileron trim (the least used I think.)

However, I experiment somewhat.

===

I think that we should all just give up this nonsense and just build a friggin' plane already. I am a member of EAA still. I am sure that most of us could manage it given enough time.

rfxcasey
06-19-2009, 08:26 AM
Cuda, so how are you interfacing the switches to the keyboard? What type of switches are you using? I can see using momentary switches to simulate key strokes but if you have any toggle switches how are you keeping them from repeating keystrokes? Any ideas on interfacing analog controls? The only thing I can think of is using a I/O board possibly harvested from a game controller. One big question, which I will research after posting this, is can you use multiple keyboards on the same machine and if now how do you work to that out so you can have a regular keyboard and your hacked controls all working together?

squareusr
06-19-2009, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by rfxcasey:
What type of switches are you using? I can see using momentary switches to simulate key strokes but if you have any toggle switches how are you keeping them from repeating keystrokes?
Some smart people have started to use (on)/off/(on) switches for the toggles, with both sides connected to the same input. That way you still can't rely on one direction always forcing the "toggle-off" state, but you are at least free to use one direction for "toggle-on" and the other for "toggle-off" (assuming that you know about the current state). Not perfect but a good compromise.



Any ideas on interfacing analog controls? The only thing I can think of is using a I/O board possibly harvested from a game controller. One big question, which I will research after posting this, is can you use multiple keyboards on the same machine and if now how do you work to that out so you can have a regular keyboard and your hacked controls all working together?

It has been said before (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/2581080467?r=4131095467#4131095467), most people start with electronics ripped from cheap and/or broken controllers and later switch to one of the Leo Bodnar BU0836 boards, which are of much higher quality than the electronics of even the best factory-made sticks.

FoolTrottel
06-19-2009, 12:06 PM
use the circuitry from old joysticks
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/DSCF0194.jpg
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Urufu_Shinjiro
06-19-2009, 03:56 PM
Wow FT, just...wow, lol.

julian265
06-19-2009, 07:11 PM
rfxcasey: Vx-3000 though I hear that a vx-1000 works fine too. The IR filter was very easy to get off. It sits away from the lens, and came off easily with a sharp pointed tool, used to pry it off.

rfxcasey
06-25-2009, 08:10 PM
So, how was the performance on you free headtracking alternative compared to a trackIR? Oh and Fooltrottle, I can see you take a lot of pride in your craftmanship. If you use more then a whole roll of duct tape in your controller hack, you might just be a redneck.

WTE_Galway
06-25-2009, 08:47 PM
really basic stuff ... MSFFB2, CH pedals, trackir

pretty much the minimum

TgD Thunderbolt56
06-28-2009, 10:03 AM
My pit (an Akers/Barnes seat slightly modified with a Ratchet bucket seat inserted):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/Thunderbolt56/IMG_0353.jpg

My Lefty-HOTAS Fighterstick:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/Thunderbolt56/IMG_0352.jpg

My Lefty-HOTAS Pro Throttle with Franken-Potato mod:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/Thunderbolt56/IMG_0351.jpg

Pretty much all unchanged over the last three years. The 27" monitor and mini-fridge means long sessions can be flown in total comfort. Still haven't installed the pilot relief tube yet. All this stuff has already caused my wife to question my sanity. THAT would certainly get me a Baker-act.


TB

UgoRipley
06-29-2009, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
...and mini-fridge means long sessions can be flown in total comfort...
LOL...the mini-fridge !!!
That's what I need in my setup !!!

julian265
06-29-2009, 08:15 AM
rfxcasey - it works really well. I use 5 DoF in X-plane and both 3 and 6 DoF in IL2. It took a bit of tuning though, however even after an accidental reformat, I had it working in around half an hour. If you take the time to familiarise yourself, it goes smoothly. If you've got further questions I'd be happy to tell you more by PM or email.

julian265
06-29-2009, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
My pit (an Akers/Barnes seat slightly modified with a Ratchet bucket seat inserted):

Wow.... That does indeed look comfortable. The fridge placement is a great idea!

Reschke
06-30-2009, 08:55 PM
You guys are great...just like every other sim community out there with all the tinkering and stuff. Me I don't have pics but my Cougar is down until the NXT mod gets here from IJ over in Cougarworld and my newly restored RCS pedals with HE sensors for the rudder and modded toe brakes get hooked up again. THEN I will be building some sort of contraption to run to my gaming rig. I am thinking of having it sort of run off a powered USB hub with a monitor switch attached to just slide a second attached LCD monitor into the place where I normally sit to work, write, etc...

rfxcasey
07-03-2009, 08:05 PM
The fridge placement is all wrong! You have to get up to get another beer. What kind of krap is that? I am just going to build my own X-wing fighter. I will post picks when it's done. Then I will show all of you, the super friends and all those damn imperial nazi goons who really is the greatest mad scientist the world has ever seen Muhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha! Muhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha!

P.S. It will have a propeller of course as I want to stay true to the era. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

skarden
07-04-2009, 12:46 AM
Well thought I'd throw mine into the mix.

Nothin to fancy but gives me everything with very little arm movement http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7495/dsc00033bus.jpg

And a gratuitous shot of my favorite toys together http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/742/dsc00031.jpg

freakvollder
07-04-2009, 05:48 AM
Oh a very interesting tread! Here are my rudder and stick combo. Not very spectacular but notice the stick position http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/50/438650/1920_3430623566663134.jpg
~ S ~

JG52Uther
07-04-2009, 06:55 AM
OK I'll play:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/JG52Uther/throttle.jpg

CH fighterstick and pedals,Saitek throttle quad.

Superjew1
07-15-2009, 10:38 PM
bump

Fork-N-spoon
07-16-2009, 12:19 AM
Due to my insecure nature, I've quit playing this game because I feel I'm up against people that are technologically superior...

bolillo_loco here, and that's a name that you've not seen darken the doorways of this forum in quite a while.

I was bored and dropped by. Those are some rather nice set ups gentlemen. At times, I wish something would rekindle my interests in this game.

Take care all,
bolillo_loco

BillSwagger
07-16-2009, 01:16 AM
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r201/spre77/100_0813.jpg

mine,

much more simple.

UgoRipley
07-16-2009, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by mmitch10:
...The three rotaries are mapped to trim, the levers are throttle, pitch and mixture (in 10% bands)...
So does Leo Bodnar's software support axis "banding"?

RaceguyOSU
07-16-2009, 04:32 PM
Fly, drive, fly, drive... I can't decide!

rg

http://www.ohioraceguy.com/images/Simulator/flight%20mode.JPG