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XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 03:47 PM
appears was droppped from He 111
air to ground
500kg warhead
rocket powered speed at 700kph
guided by crew by wire?

could be interesting with the "mistle" that might be added to FB?

anyway anyone seen hs293 before, never knew existed.





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XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 03:47 PM
appears was droppped from He 111
air to ground
500kg warhead
rocket powered speed at 700kph
guided by crew by wire?

could be interesting with the "mistle" that might be added to FB?

anyway anyone seen hs293 before, never knew existed.





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XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 03:58 PM
It had a primitive, blurred TV camera and was guided by wire. It was intended to be released from a He 111, He 177 or Do 217 bomber, and was mainly a gliding antiship weapon.

It was so precise it could be slipped into a ship chimney, to make its inners blast. But it was on development when the war ended.

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XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 04:30 PM
It was only the 'D' that had TV, and that was only experimental.

"Henschel Hs 293
This was the first guided missile that entered service in large numbers. The Hs 293 was a glide bomb of aeroplane configuration, with a underslung rocket engine. It was carried by bombers like the He 111, He 177, Do 217 or Fw 200. A radio command link was standard, and a flare in the tail burned to help the operator sighting. There were also versions with wire guidance, and the experimental Hs 293D had TV guidance. The sloop HMS Egret, on 27 August 1943, had the dubious honour of being the first ship sunk by a guided missile. Many other victims followed, including five destroyers. Over 2300 Hs 293 missiles were fired."

http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/2833/wonder/missile/hs293/hs293.html
http://www.concentric.net/~drake725/Hs293.htm

A book with drawings http://www.merriam-press.com/mono_075/m053.htm


DuxCorvan wrote:
- It had a primitive, blurred TV camera and was guided
- by wire. It was intended to be released from a He
- 111, He 177 or Do 217 bomber, and was mainly a
- gliding antiship weapon.
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XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 04:33 PM
more info on use here:

http://www.concentric.net/~drake725/missiles.htm

XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 04:34 PM
No.

It was radio guided and thus jammable. Also it had no TV-system, but a tracer (or flare which ever you like) in the tail.

Bomber manouvered in a special way to keep the missile between and the target, and the bomber made corrections to keep the tracer superimposed on the target.

In detail here:

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/hs293.html


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XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 04:41 PM
The Airfix 1/72 scale He 177 came equipped with Hs293s. Don't know if the kit is still available.
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XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 05:58 PM
It was radio controlled and in this book I'm reading about a Fock-Wulf dropping them on ships the sailors were told to get out every electric razor they had and turn them on to jam the signal, seemed to of worked.

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XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 06:10 PM
Well I offerd to do one off both in my beginning of modeling but it got a NO GO because of the difficulty and just utter uselessnees of the things. easely jammable so,..
USELESS
although I always liked the fritz X

whats the polylimit for those things?
I wanna model one for my desktop


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XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 06:12 PM
the americans had a radio controled bomb too
used it against the japanise railroad

XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 06:15 PM
The Hs293 was DEFINITELY NOT useless..it sank combat ships in WWII..something that gave the Germans a great capability... compared to the hit % of dumb bombs, it was amazing. Although by todays standards it was almost stone age.

XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 09:36 PM
what fruit told you it was useless so as to keep you from building model? dont be discouraged. folks would think very cool to launch one of those bad arse muniitions. not all ships proteccted by jamming devices from what i read today.

have you ask Oleg to include if you build?line up target, put on autopilot or level stabilizer and control rocket with stick ?

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XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 09:40 PM
I was orginaly going to make the Hs-293A for FB until a guy got my AT-6 stuff, but I counldn't find good enough 3 views so, instead I'm working on the Khramer X-4, like the kind used on the Ju-88 and 111. And the Kind the was gonna be used on the Me-262 and Kurt Tanks Ta-183, that many say, was were the russians got their design for the Mig-15.

XyZspineZyX
10-02-2003, 10:02 PM
A good description for the Hs293

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/hs293.html





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XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 07:02 PM
mm can't fidn it on the board
bump!!!!!!!


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