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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 11:53 AM
No big deal guys, but..... I was doing some gunnery (Bf-109) practice with some Rusky bombers and every once in a while some of them NOT all would have triangles surrounding them. Does this mean anything?? or is this just a "glitch"?
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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 11:53 AM
No big deal guys, but..... I was doing some gunnery (Bf-109) practice with some Rusky bombers and every once in a while some of them NOT all would have triangles surrounding them. Does this mean anything?? or is this just a "glitch"?
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Quote from Confederate General at the Battle of Fredericksburg overlooking the battle at Maryes Heights near the Sunken road.

michapma
07-31-2003, 11:55 AM
You have icons enabled. I don't actually remember or know exactly how all of it works (haven't flown with icons much lately), but padlock will make a triangle around airplanes.

Cheers,
Mike

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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 11:57 AM
you have icons on AND you have probaly pushed the padlock button

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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 01:26 PM
This is absolutely the lamest thing in the sim. Anyone who uses it should be ashamed/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 01:47 PM
VMF-214_HaVoK wrote:
- This is absolutely the lamest thing in the sim.
- Anyone who uses it should be ashamed


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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 01:51 PM
It's the padlock. It locks the view direction so that it follows a particular aircraft. It's a very neat tool that allows you to keep your eyes on a particular machine without having to constantly press buttons or use the mouse to change your view direction while still trying to fly with the stick. Very useful in dogfights.

If icons are enabled, then a padlocked a/c will have a triangle round it to distinguish it from the ones that aren't padlocked. You can toggle padlock on/off with the F4 key, and cycle through the a/c in the field of view using the u and y keys.

It is possible to have an a/c padlocked even if icons are turned off, but it is sometimes very hard to work out exactly which a/c is padlocked until it moves off and the padlock makes your field of view to follow it.It's quite easy to padlock the wrong a/c in those circumstances.

Some people don't like the padlock function, but I've always found it to be invaluable in maintaining a realistic level of situational awareness.

Regards,

RocketDog.





Message Edited on 07/31/0312:52PM by RocketDog

XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 02:49 PM
VMF-214_HaVoK wrote:
- This is absolutely the lamest thing in the sim.
- Anyone who uses it should be ashamed/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
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You must be a rookie. Padlock is essential to sim flying combat. The computer does not have the field of vision of a human being.

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michapma
07-31-2003, 02:51 PM
I know that if you padlock an aircraft with icons off, you get a green triangle around it. If you toggle the icon types you can turn the triangle off and just have the padlock function. I think if icons are on you get a red or blue triangle (or color corresponding to team color).

I like the padlock and I don't like the padlock. I used to use it a lot before I got TrackIR, now I try to always only use the TIR, even if padlock would be easier. What's good about padlock is that it helps negate an advantage TIR users would have in online combat. There are at least two things I don't like about padlock. One is that it allows a sort-of radar function to see planes you otherwise wouldn't see when map icons and icons are off. It's very hard to not use this, and it makes you very lazy about scanning the sky with your own eyes. The other thing is the way that the view bobs about when the padlocked target gets behind, below or above you. It makes it hard to keep an idea of your flight attitude. I can deal with not having a view of my nose, but the back and forth is often too much.

Another issue is that when icons are off it simply locks on to the next aircraft, friend or foe. However, this is a question of laziness. I feel padlock should be used to track a bandit you are pursuing or evading. You should not use it until you are close enough to id the bogey as a bandit (or friendly) and are engaged. However, when you are close enough to engage, the aircraft are close together and it picks up the wrong target, that's annoying and inhibitive.

Cheers,
Mike

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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 03:02 PM
""You must be a rookie. Padlock is essential to sim flying combat. The computer does not have the field of vision of a human being.""


and so what if he is a rookie you where once the same rookie so!!!

!!!!!JEEEEEES!!!!!!! help each other and stop making degrading remarks as THHHUUUUHHHHHH YOU MUST BE A ROOKIE!!!!

!!SALUTATIONS!!!!

XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 03:58 PM
trughoy wrote:
and so what if he is a rookie you where once the
- same rookie so!!!
-
- !!!!!JEEEEEES!!!!!!! help each other and stop making
- degrading remarks as THHHUUUUHHHHHH YOU MUST BE A
- ROOKIE!!!!

-
When you make stupid arrogant statements, you deserve to get hit back. Regardless of experience level.

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