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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 11:51 PM
Playing FB last night I tried using the anti bomber formation rockets for ground attack. Seems like a insanely powerful weapon. Aim it at a city and so many buildings explode you get frame rate slow down !

even if your a crap aim, you can still take out many AA / cars / lightly armoured targets with ease.

So where they this powerful in real life or just overmodelled ?

Ive seen pictures in books and it is a big launcher, but they seem more powerful than bombs ?

"id buy that for a dollar"

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 11:51 PM
Playing FB last night I tried using the anti bomber formation rockets for ground attack. Seems like a insanely powerful weapon. Aim it at a city and so many buildings explode you get frame rate slow down !

even if your a crap aim, you can still take out many AA / cars / lightly armoured targets with ease.

So where they this powerful in real life or just overmodelled ?

Ive seen pictures in books and it is a big launcher, but they seem more powerful than bombs ?

"id buy that for a dollar"

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 12:37 AM
My understanding is the weapon was a Wehrmacht mortar WGR 21, simply mounted on an aircraft. The warhead should therefore be relatively small and the projectile speed fairly low. Good descriptions in Heinz Knocke's "I Flew For The Fuhrer", though he is "optimistic" about the damage to bomber formations.

His JG11 experimented with several kinds of weapons in order to break up bomber formations

I have not tried it against ground targets.

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 02:20 AM
try it against ground targets, or a factory district.

the blast area is just huge http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

they will knock out a tank with a direct hit though, but very hard to hit.



"id buy that for a dollar"

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 05:36 AM
It's hardly a small warhead. Wfr. Gr. 21 is an abbreviation for Werfer-Granate 210 mm. These packed 4 times the explosive power of an Flak 88 shell. There are accounts of these rockets destroying several bombers with one salvo, although they were very hard to aim accurately.

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 02:08 PM
Menthol_moose wrote:
- Playing FB last night I tried using the anti bomber
- formation rockets for ground attack. Seems like a
- insanely powerful weapon. Aim it at a city and so
- many buildings explode you get frame rate slow down
- !
-
- even if your a crap aim, you can still take out many
- AA / cars / lightly armoured targets with ease.
-
- So where they this powerful in real life or just
- overmodelled ?
-

It is one of the rare overmodelled (!!) german (!) weapons in FB

- Ive seen pictures in books and it is a big launcher,
- but they seem more powerful than bombs ?
-
- "id buy that for a dollar"
-

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 04:11 PM
Menthol_moose wrote:
-
- So where they this powerful in real life or just
- overmodelled ?
-
- Ive seen pictures in books and it is a big launcher,
- but they seem more powerful than bombs ?
-

The 21cm rocket was a very powerful weapon indeed, it carried 10 kg of explosives (as said, a 75mm tank gun carried about 0.6 kg, a 88mm shell about 1/3 more). Also, the Wehrmach 210mm rocket lauchers originally fired smoke as well, but later on the high explosive rocket, it was that effective.

But it shouldn`t be more powerful than bombs of any significant size, say 250 and above, those carry much more explosive in any case.




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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 07:45 PM
I read in "Focke Wulf fw 190 in combat" that these weapons were used against bomber formations but were less than effecitive because of a lack of proximity fuse and used timers so they either exploded short or went straight through the formations.

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 08:38 PM
Planes equiped with this motars was called "Pulk Zerst¶rer" - box destroyer, 109 with the tubes were difficult to fly especialy while landing.
The most succsessfull missions were groundattacks while the invasion in Sicily, when the JG53 attacked the landing boats...

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