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Frankthetank36
08-16-2009, 07:23 PM
Got IL-2 1946 a week ago and wow, what a deal for $10. I am confused about the sensitivities though. I like flying my planes realistically so I don't want to wait a second and a half for full control surface deflection. In MFS you can just turn the sensitivity all the way up for instant control response, but I don't see an option for that in IL-2.

berg417448
08-16-2009, 07:30 PM
Check the Controls Section of your game manual. The manual is a PDF file in your game folder. It will explain how to adjust your stick sensitivity.

VW-IceFire
08-16-2009, 09:38 PM
In-game go into the Setup screen and then into the Input screen. Thats where you can adjust the settings.

I do find the comment about the reaction time a bit strange...remember that WWII warbirds are not modern jet fighters. Its all control cables or rods and they take their time to perform changes in direction as very few have power assisted surfaces. I think even if you set sensitivity to 100 across the board you may find them somewhat slow to react. Thats just part of the experience.

Unless you're having some technical difficulties?

BillSwagger
08-16-2009, 09:45 PM
I find that the filtering can make your controls seem spongy and less responsive so i would make sure you dont have the filters cranked up too high.
Thats where your response time is going to lag if you have too much. For that reason i use very little or none at all.

K_Freddie
08-17-2009, 03:24 PM
This is all you need.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Pics/pitch.jpg
http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Pics/Roll.jpg
http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Pics/Yaw.jpg

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-17-2009, 04:40 PM
I highly recommend IL2 Joycontrol or IL2sticks!

S!

hirosangels
08-17-2009, 04:44 PM
il-2 joy control from mission 4 today helped me.

until my joystick physiclly failed


also check out bearcats nuggets thread (stickied), that has linx and everything and good explanations

Tully__
08-18-2009, 07:47 AM
I recommend a joystick if you're not using one. With a joystick, response is instant.

Do not confuse graphical representation with actual response. To see actual response, check the game screen posted by K_Freddie. The red square shows the signal being sent to the computer by the joystick. The green square shows how the game is interpreting the joystick signal. If filtering is set at zero, the green square responds instantly to joystick input.

The screen animations you see while in an aircraft are approximately the response speed you'll get using keyboard input, but if you're using a joystick and filtering is set to zero you'll get instant response.

megalopsuche
08-18-2009, 08:36 AM
Kfreddie, isn't that pitch scaling the reverse of what most do?

K_Freddie
08-19-2009, 04:45 PM
Kfreddie, isn't that pitch scaling the reverse of what most do?
Uhuh..
A hundred billion flies can eat sh.1.t
... but one can have caviar.
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megalopsuche
08-19-2009, 04:55 PM
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Ok, so why is that scaling caviar?

When I first tried il-2 I thought the pitch was so twitchy it was unflyable without lots of scaling. Not long ago I was experimenting and found that I have no trouble aiming with no scaling at all, with the benefit of more responsive controls.

K_Freddie
08-19-2009, 05:08 PM
Wow.. you're online http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Try these settings.. you won't be sorry, actually it's been my secret of success in the Fw190 for years, but it works for any aircraft.

It'll give you the 'edge', but there is one last remaining secret to these settings.
A bit of practice will help you find this...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

K_Freddie
08-19-2009, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by K_Freddie:
A bit of practice will help you find this...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
This is actually in the offline tracks that I've been posting recently..
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

K_Freddie
08-19-2009, 05:23 PM
...which is why I've been saying for years that the FW190 can be used as a TnB fighter..

The problem has been that 'nobody' has tuned their controls properly, whether it's P51, Spit or FW190.

.. and there is still one last 'ingredient' which very few have a grasp of.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
(I had to work this out myself through trial and error)


I leave the rest to your 'imagination'
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Tully__
08-21-2009, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by megalopsuche:
Kfreddie, isn't that pitch scaling the reverse of what most do?
Indeed, but some find that not having full control deflection available at full joystick deflection helps them avoid stalls and get better control at the extremes of joystick movement. I could also be argued that it gives a wider spread of sensitive control near the centered position with some settings of the lower sliders.

dimebag15
08-22-2009, 02:48 AM
i have just got il2 jot control but can any one help me with the settings or post a good link that will help me out..
Cheers all

GH_Klingstroem
08-22-2009, 04:28 AM
It depends very much on what joystick you have. They are very different to start with. Some joysticks like CH sticks come with their own program to change the sensitivtyand and this settings seems to override whatever you set in IL2. I had two friends doing that( set the ideal curve in the the CH program) and then went to Il2 to add more filtering or so. Their planes became almost unflyable due to even the smallest movement of the stick would make the plane produce almost full scale deflection. The planes were wobbeling all over the sky.
Im using microsoft sidewinder FF2 stick and my settings doesnt not at ALL feel the same on a CH stick. If I used KFreddies settings with my stick, i would barely make it off the ground. SMallest movement would create full scale deflection and i would stall, spin, crash and burn.
I use lots of filtering and little b it of deadzone and I also have a pretty shallow curve for the pitch barely increasing in numbers at all for the 4-5 digits. This allows me to make small changes at very hi speed and stil have a very stable plane. All so called wobbles are gone ect etc... But as said, it all depends on the stick!!

good luck

dimebag15
08-22-2009, 05:04 AM
cheers m8 i have the x52 stick and i have had a go at setting up joy contral and how far past 100 can i go on ailerons ect and will il2 recognize the extra movement???

megalopsuche
08-22-2009, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by GH_Klingstroem:
It depends very much on what joystick you have. They are very different to start with. Some joysticks like CH sticks come with their own program to change the sensitivtyand and this settings seems to override whatever you set in IL2. I had two friends doing that( set the ideal curve in the the CH program) and then went to Il2 to add more filtering or so. Their planes became almost unflyable due to even the smallest movement of the stick would make the plane produce almost full scale deflection. The planes were wobbeling all over the sky.


I love CH joysticks, but I hate their programming software and refuse to use it.

dimebag15
08-22-2009, 11:34 AM
Ive done it ive managed to set up my 109 the way i want it with very responsive controls. I can now turn very tight and when i start to stall i can usually keep hold of her where as b4 she would spin out... I just cant believe ive only just started to use il2 joy control as it has improved my flying 4sure.

Frankthetank36
08-23-2009, 04:59 PM
So you just set everything to 100 huh... Thanks.

Didn't know the real ones took time for the controls to respond. I thought that if you were physically strong enough to move the controls quickly, they would move quickly. That is the case with Cessnas and whatnot (they are easier to move than heavy WWII planes, obviously) and they don't have fly-by-wire and hydraulic systems.