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Messaschnitzel
01-14-2008, 11:18 AM
Have you ever run across a job offer where you fill all of the requirements, and thought that it would be a great job to take? I came across this one:

http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails....%3dRAD%3bJDV%3dFalse (http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?cbsid=c566f80cd4cc4a57a63751992448 53e5-253627750-J5-5&ff=21&dv=dv&APath=2.31.0.0.0&sfascc=machinist&IPath=ILKGCV&sname=&jrdid=&lpage=1&job_did=J3I5VQ7696W7WW2F680&sc_cmp1=JS_JR_ViewJob&jobcount=9&strcrit=QID%3dA3851699230878%3bst%3dA%3buse%3dALL% 3brawWords%3dmachinist%3bCID%3dUS%3bSID%3dME%3bTID %3d0%3bENR%3dNO%3bDTP%3dDR3%3bYDI%3dYES%3bIND%3dAL L%3bPDQ%3dAll%3bJN%3dAll%3bCHL%3dMF%3bPOY%3dNO%3bE TD%3dALL%3bMGT%3dDC%3bSUP%3dDC%3bFRE%3d30%3bQS%3dS ID_UNKNOWN%3bSS%3dNO%3bTITL%3d0%3bJQT%3dRAD%3bJDV% 3dFalse)

There are four things that are wrong with this job.

1- The job is in Maine, and I am located in California.

2- My wife is from Italy. When she moved to the U.S., she lived in Vermont and Maine, and doesn't like the winters in New England.

3- I checked the statistics for Maine. It does sound kinda cold during the winter. Cold for someone originally from Texas, at least.

4- Again, my wife says it is too cold. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I could see this happening if I took the job:

"What the.. These rifling buttons don't fit the M2 bore! Hey, what did you grind these for?"

"MG151/20's" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jadger
01-14-2008, 11:37 AM
Bah, too cold, I love the snow!!! Maine isn't near as cold as up here in Canada, and we just had 12 degrees above freezing for a week long last week and the snow all melted, this is supposed to be the coldest part of the year, where I can call in to work that I can't get through the roads are closed.

P.S. you can also then by a wicked snowmobile, cant use those in Cali

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-14-2008, 12:03 PM
If Mama aint happy, aint nobody happy. Sorry dude, keep looking.

In my lifetime, I've moved for my career and I've moved for money, but only once did I take a job that my Wife said "no" to and it suxxored the big one.

My .02c

Skunk_438RCAF
01-14-2008, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by jadger:
Bah, too cold, I love the snow!!! Maine isn't near as cold as up here in Canada, and we just had 12 degrees above freezing for a week long last week and the snow all melted, this is supposed to be the coldest part of the year, where I can call in to work that I can't get through the roads are closed.

P.S. you can also then by a wicked snowmobile, cant use those in Cali

Cold doesnt stop at the border you know.

Maine can be as cold or even colder than some parts of Canada. I live in Montreal, and have friends in the maritimes, so Maine is basically between me and them, and the weather is comparable in both places. If you like winter and snow, Maine is a nice place to be.

If the thought of seeing a snowflake sends shivers down your spine, stay in Cali. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Pirschjaeger
01-14-2008, 12:25 PM
Dude, too cold? Someone tell him about global warming. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Actually, jokes aside, I find typically colder climates to be warmer places to live. I come from Canada and anything that's not outdoors is warm. I've lived in places with a much warmer climate and found that the houses are cold in the winter.

You wanna be warm in winter, go north.

Besides, California might be nice for vacationing, but the New England outdoors kick perverbial butt on California.

Sure you got beaches, but they are too warm and therefore too crowded. Another thing, if you are an outdoors kinda person, Virginia is a short (Canadian standards) drive away. NE is cool with a bunch of strange accents. I know Cali has strange accents too, but how many are native?

I've never been to California but I grew up in N.S. and hung out in NE. Another thing to add, the Earth isn't planning to open up and swallow New Englanders. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

buzzsaw1939
01-14-2008, 02:48 PM
You have wisdom young man.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I_KG100_Prien
01-14-2008, 04:39 PM
Why is it that everybody assumes that the only thing in California is So. Cal Beaches and The abomination known as L.A?

You can use Snowmobiles in California, just have to head up to the mountains, where oddly enough there is also these strange attractions called Skiing, Snowboarding, Showshoeing, mountain hiking /backpacking, rock climbing, camping, sailing, boating... (btw, did I mention it does get cold and snows there???????). There is also some really good fishing and hunting as well.

Try heading up to the Northern part of the State, the Out-Doors is amazing.. the Redwood Forrest's are a treat to see, and so are the Sierra Nevada's.

I've not been to New England so I won't knock it's "wild side". But for the love of all that is good in the world, California is not all Beaches and Britney Spears http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

P.S- How can someone say one states out of doors kicks butt on another, but then later say they've never been there? C'mon now..

Viper2005_
01-14-2008, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by I_KG100_Prien:
P.S- How can someone say one states out of doors kicks butt on another, but then later say they've never been there? C'mon now..

Welcome to the internet. Enjoy your stay. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

That goes double on a forum dedicated to people complaining about the simulated performance of aeroplanes that they have never flown...

Viper2005_
01-14-2008, 05:19 PM
PS, on the topic, decide carefully between the job and your wife, since the chances are that you shall be unable to change either after your decision is made and irresistible force hath met immovable object without incurring considerable expense...

Messaschnitzel
01-14-2008, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by I_KG100_Prien:
Why is it that everybody assumes that the only thing in California is So. Cal Beaches and The abomination known as L.A?

You can use Snowmobiles in California, just have to head up to the mountains, where oddly enough there is also these strange attractions called Skiing, Snowboarding, Showshoeing, mountain hiking /backpacking, rock climbing, camping, sailing, boating... (btw, did I mention it does get cold and snows there???????)

Try heading up to the Northern part of the State, the Out-Doors is amazing.. the Redwood Forrest's are a treat to see, and so are the Sierra Nevada's.

I live in the bay area of Northern California. The downside to having all this great weather and beautiful, pleasant outdoors is that too many people want to enjoy it as well. Boy, is it ever crowded, mainly with tourists that never went home. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif It sometimes seems as if it has become the "entertainment Center" of the U.S.

Hmmm. I still keep thinking about that job. I wonder what the commute would be like if I still lived in CA. I know that I'd have to get up extra early to get a head start on the commute traffic. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

zardozid
01-14-2008, 06:01 PM
the thing about the weather stats and New England winters is that the stats don't always explain "how" the cold "feels"...an unobstructed northern wind (no hills or mountains between you and the great white north) makes it really hard to keep your house feeling warm (and drives the heat bill up). Also, if you live in an area where the air humidity changes day to day it will effect your "inner" perception of the temp...20deg below zero on a damp day feels a lot colder then 20 below on a sunny day...

I now live in western Mass, but I have lived in Bath Maine, Derby Line Vt, Burlington Vt, and Portland Maine...and (for me) north of where I'm now is much too cold and I could never get "used" to the 10deg (colder) difference between "here" in Massachusetts and (just) 75 miles north (let alone the 200 miles to Maine and the 20degs difference)...

If someone doesn't like the cold they will never get used to it...you can not ignore the cold when you have to walk out into it everyday...

Airmail109
01-14-2008, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Viper2005_:
PS, on the topic, decide carefully between the job and your wife, since the chances are that you shall be unable to change either after your decision is made and irresistible force hath met immovable object without incurring considerable expense...

I've decided that whatever job I have when I find my feet will let me pack up and disappear at a moments notice for those reasons.

I blame my grandfather and his nomadic family for this attitude.

Airmail109
01-14-2008, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
If Mama aint happy, aint nobody happy. Sorry dude, keep looking.

In my lifetime, I've moved for my career and I've moved for money, but only once did I take a job that my Wife said "no" to and it suxxored the big one.

My .02c

Seriously, I'd never have a wife that told me I couldn't have a certain job. I'd make sure she knew that when I got married, and I wouldn't budge on it. Ever. Even if I was a Jewel thief or a Mercenary. My own life, I'll make my own choices about what path I take.

Sounds selfish, but it's not half as selfish as telling someone else what job they can have.

Perhaps I'm just an a*****e.

Also after what I've heard about marriage, any savings of mine are going to go into offshore bank accounts in Switzerland or bonds and maybe a big fat private safe, so they (hopefully) can't be raped in a divorce settlement.

Monterey13
01-14-2008, 06:15 PM
AHHH...Bath. I was a regular at "The Bounty".

In Portland, the "Blue Moon" was the favorite hangout.

Maine is waaaay too cold. I destroyed both of my door handles and an oil pan because of all the ice. The Moose do a number on a vehicle too.

VW-IceFire
01-14-2008, 06:22 PM
No idea if you or your wife would like it up in this area climate wise. Canadians and people in the New England states probably share similar attitudes about the weather. We hate winter, love summer, but we'd be sort of upset if we didn't have a proper winter either. I'm not sure if we're all masochists or were just used to the big changes in the seasons.

I've never lived in any other climate but weather here in souther Ontario is extremely variable from the hot humid 32c days to the cold dry and dark -15c days. That'd be a pretty normal winter...although with the climate being all wonky these last few years the temperature is all over the board now so consistency is totally out.

Messaschnitzel
01-14-2008, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Aimail101:

Seriously, I'd never have a wife that told me I couldn't have a certain job. I'd make sure she knew that when I got married, and I wouldn't budge on it. Ever. Even if I was a Jewel thief or a Mercenary. My own life, I'll make my own choices about what path I take.

Sounds selfish, but it's not half as selfish as telling someone else what job they can have.

Perhaps I'm just an a*****e.

Also after what I've heard about marriage, any savings of mine are going to go into offshore bank accounts in Switzerland or bonds and maybe a big fat private safe, so they (hopefully) can't be raped in a divorce settlement.

When I was younger, I used to think just like you do now. I used to think that married guys were P-whipped A-holes. As I got older, I found that I was slowly learning how to compromise. There are definitely some things I will not compromise about, but when I married, I knew ahead of time that I was going to have to concede some things that might not set well with me. My wife can be as stubborn as I am, and neither of us get our way at times.

But, I am glad to say that we have found a happy medium between negotiations. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Airmail109
01-14-2008, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Messaschnitzel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aimail101:

Seriously, I'd never have a wife that told me I couldn't have a certain job. I'd make sure she knew that when I got married, and I wouldn't budge on it. Ever. Even if I was a Jewel thief or a Mercenary. My own life, I'll make my own choices about what path I take.

Sounds selfish, but it's not half as selfish as telling someone else what job they can have.

Perhaps I'm just an a*****e.

Also after what I've heard about marriage, any savings of mine are going to go into offshore bank accounts in Switzerland or bonds and maybe a big fat private safe, so they (hopefully) can't be raped in a divorce settlement.

When I was younger, I used to think just like you do now. I used to think that married guys were P-whipped A-holes. As I got older, I found that I was slowly learning how to compromise. There are definitely some things I will not compromise about, but when I married, I knew ahead of time that I was going to have to concede some things that might not set well with me. My wife can be as stubborn as I am, and neither of us get our way at times.

But, I am glad to say that we have found a happy medium between negotiations. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Negotiating, sure...fine...I can do that. I'm actually good at it, I'm always the peacemaker in my house and between my friends. In fact I'm better than a lot of girls at it. Being told what job one can have is a line I will never cross though...nope, no way, niet, nein, negatory, not going there, noooooooooooooooooooo. That will also apply to hobbies unless it eats up to much needed cash or to much family time.

My ideals always been to find a girl who's equally independent with their own sphere of interests that I don't need to interfere in as well. Would freak lots of guys out, but for me that would be awesome.

Glad to hear your marriage is working out for you though.

Messaschnitzel
01-14-2008, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Aimail101:

Negotiating, sure...fine...I can do that. I'm actually good at it, I'm always the peacemaker in my house and between my friends. In fact I'm better than a lot of girls at it. Being told what job one can have is a line I will never cross though...nope, no way, niet, nein, negatory, not going there, noooooooooooooooooooo. That will also apply to hobbies unless it eats up to much needed cash or to much family time.

Glad to hear marriage is working out for you though.

It wasn't about the job itself, It was about the location of the job, which I can certainly understand.

I did have a hard time adjusting to the fact that my play money for hobbies, etc. was curtailed, though.

Airmail109
01-14-2008, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Messaschnitzel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aimail101:

Negotiating, sure...fine...I can do that. I'm actually good at it, I'm always the peacemaker in my house and between my friends. In fact I'm better than a lot of girls at it. Being told what job one can have is a line I will never cross though...nope, no way, niet, nein, negatory, not going there, noooooooooooooooooooo. That will also apply to hobbies unless it eats up to much needed cash or to much family time.

Glad to hear marriage is working out for you though.

It wasn't about the job itself, It was about the location of the job, which I can certainly understand.

I did have a hard time adjusting to the fact that my play money for hobbies, etc. was curtailed, though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok, I suppose the location is a valid argument depending on circumstances.

Losing lots of play money would/will suck though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

zardozid
01-14-2008, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
No idea if you or your wife would like it up in this area climate wise. <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Canadians and people in the New England states probably share similar attitudes about the weather. We hate winter, love summer, but we'd be sort of upset if we didn't have a proper winter either.</span> I'm not sure if we're all masochists or were just used to the big changes in the seasons.

I've never lived in any other climate but weather here in souther Ontario is extremely variable from the hot humid 32c days to the cold dry and dark -15c days. That'd be a pretty normal winter...although with the climate being all wonky these last few years the temperature is all over the board now so consistency is totally out.


LOL! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif you have made me laugh...your comment is so true...I hate the cold (it makes my bone's hurt) but I would be lost without a "White X-Mass"... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Airmail109
01-14-2008, 08:14 PM
I hate warm weather, the only thing I like about warm weather is I get to see more jiggling boobies and legs

I love cold crisp weather

Maybe I'm an oddball

I_KG100_Prien
01-15-2008, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Messaschnitzel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by I_KG100_Prien:
Why is it that everybody assumes that the only thing in California is So. Cal Beaches and The abomination known as L.A?

You can use Snowmobiles in California, just have to head up to the mountains, where oddly enough there is also these strange attractions called Skiing, Snowboarding, Showshoeing, mountain hiking /backpacking, rock climbing, camping, sailing, boating... (btw, did I mention it does get cold and snows there???????)

Try heading up to the Northern part of the State, the Out-Doors is amazing.. the Redwood Forrest's are a treat to see, and so are the Sierra Nevada's.

I live in the bay area of Northern California. The downside to having all this great weather and beautiful, pleasant outdoors is that too many people want to enjoy it as well. Boy, is it ever crowded, mainly with tourists that never went home. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif It sometimes seems as if it has become the "entertainment Center" of the U.S.

Hmmm. I still keep thinking about that job. I wonder what the commute would be like if I still lived in CA. I know that I'd have to get up extra early to get a head start on the commute traffic. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I grew up in the Sheanandoah Valley, which is about an hour from Sacramento... Amador County to be exact, between Placer and Calaveras... Anyway I know all about the tourist issue you speak of... Big wine producing area and weekends in the spring/summer were always packed with tourists coming up from the Bay Area and the surround. The place started going down hill in my opinion when some of the same decided to move up and put in their own vineyards and wineries. Led to the vineyard I grew upon going under a few years back.. Ended up being too much supply and not enough demand for grapes. The vineyard didn't have it's own winery and relied on sales to wineries for income (sold a lot to Gallo and Sutter Home actually..)

Oh well, have not lived in CA for about 8 years now and don't plan on going back. Not that it isn't a beautiful state (Well the North anyway) the cost of living is just too high, and there are other reasons of course, but not gonna go there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Oh and to the nice individual that clued me on to teh internet.. I'm aware of such things, nevertheless it still makes me scratch my head. Though it's not just the internet where I encounter such screwballs, happens all the time in face to face conversations. Especially in a profession where my comrades come from all over.

Pirschjaeger
01-15-2008, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by I_KG100_Prien:

P.S- How can someone say one states out of doors kicks butt on another, but then later say they've never been there? C'mon now..


Dooooood,..... jokes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Everybody know it's got wilderness. How could hundreds of square miles of beach burn every year since the beginnning of time?

Can I buy you a non-decaf coffee? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

But still, NE DOESN"T have Britney. Beat that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Fritz

GH_Klingstroem
01-15-2008, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Aimail101:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
If Mama aint happy, aint nobody happy. Sorry dude, keep looking.

In my lifetime, I've moved for my career and I've moved for money, but only once did I take a job that my Wife said "no" to and it suxxored the big one.

My .02c

Seriously, I'd never have a wife that told me I couldn't have a certain job. I'd make sure she knew that when I got married, and I wouldn't budge on it. Ever. Even if I was a Jewel thief or a Mercenary. My own life, I'll make my own choices about what path I take.

Sounds selfish, but it's not half as selfish as telling someone else what job they can have.

Perhaps I'm just an a*****e.

Also after what I've heard about marriage, any savings of mine are going to go into offshore bank accounts in Switzerland or bonds and maybe a big fat private safe, so they (hopefully) can't be raped in a divorce settlement. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Haha you and I are thinking exactly the same way!
When someone else is making the decisions (i.e wife) for you, you have basically ceased to exist as an individual . That I will never accept. I told my wife to be ( I guess) that, in my career, I will have to take the jobs where they are for the first few years in my career... (commercial pilot).. and she has accepted that. Now, with kids in the picture, that will change, but that wont happens for a while. Not if I can decide anyway...

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-15-2008, 07:53 AM
Well, first of all, I have a fine set of nads thank you, and my Wife doesn't make any decisions for me. As I said I moved for my career and it was understood back then that those things would have to happen at times, but the fact is I'm not in the military and I actually have a "partner" who's opinion I value. I bounce everything off her and it's saved my a$$ more than once. When I said in my other post that she said "no", it was figurative. We both sit down and weigh the liabilities and assets of each choice and decide if it's something we want. That's why I live in sunny Florida and have a great relationship with my wife. Since I'm not a coal miner, an apple farmer, don't work in the stock exchange or some other job intrinsic to a specific geographic location I can pretty much choose where I want to live. I guess I'm fortunate in that way. I surf, SCUBA and generally hang out at the beach with little clothing and do it year around. I can't do that in f'n Maine.

And I still say, if she's not happy then it's not worth it.

If your wife hates the cold and snow, then how much money would it take to change her mind? or do you just tell her to "shut up woman and start packing"? Those of you who say your spouse's opinions don't matter have your priorities out of whack.


TB

Pirschjaeger
01-15-2008, 02:50 PM
I have to agree with T-bolt. Marrying someone means 2 become 1. My wife is in every one of my decisions regarding our family. We're a team. It's give and take from both sides.

In the end, behind every happy spouse, is a happy spouse.

To the original poster, if the job really means that much to you, take your wife on a vacation to NE and see how she feels.

Fritz